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This thread has made me wary of the close-mindedness of some people that I didn't know of.

Not everyone I've disagreed with, mind you. Disagreeing is fine. But the ugliness of some has been a big let down.

So if I start a thread asking people a certain question, it gets answered, but people decide to derail it into a 10000 page thread, you expect my post count to be proportional to the thread length?

OP has stated his opinion enough times (and so did everyone else).

...maybe if you remove fonewear's posts, the aforementioned ratio will improve.

Reporter sees rocket fired from gaza hospital, then chides news agency for reporting it.

Can we stear the titanic back on topic?

From the reporter:


I think that's my favorite part

That's why we can't get world peace!

Wipe them alllllllllllllll!

So, I wonder what the Palestine apologists will say about rockets being fired from on top of hospitals now? And the eventual retaliation towards said rocket fires? "Oh noes, Israel is bombing hospitals now!"

So, that leaves Israel in a tough spot: Either allow these rocket bombardment go unpunished and take the blame for allowing Palestine to bomb up the hell out of Israel, or retaliate and get blamed for bombing hospitals and schools (because it is obvious this isn't the first time this tactic was used).

Just to show you, Palestine is trolling the world hard....

I'm waiting for the UN to supply gaza a huge shipment of humanitarian aid in medical supplies, food, building materials and money. Then the fighting will stop for a few years and hamas will just repeat it again.

be better if israel just finishes the job now and decimates that organization then work with the citizens to build a sense of trust and cooperation so they can actually be peaceful neighbors and possibly something good will come from it later. but nah religion and its infinite stupidity will do something otherwise

More humanitarian solution would be to announce to Palestine that Israel is going to bomb the hell out of everything now, and that if you don't want to die, you better leave by August 30th.

Then bomb on August 29th.

Rockets fired from civilian targets is nothing new, thats the Hamas plan. They hide in the schools, hospitals, and whatever else could be considered a civilian target and then they cry foul when Israel blows them up. They are just trying to win over public opinion, which is a poor strategy considering how irrelevant public opinion is in this case.

If Israel really wants to do that they'd do that for the past 50 years, but they chose not to so Hamas gained power.

So yeah, lol@ "building a sense of trust and cooperation", not gonna happen even without Hamas.

well over the past 50 years, they've been involved in 15 different conflicts/wars with basically the same types of groups. Kind of hard to start building any relation when all sides want you dead.
Better to take one group out and start from the ground up and hopefully the region will change over the course of a few decades.

Israel will continue to feed the citizenry into the hands of Hamas so long as they continue their apartheid state in the name of security and continue to kill innocents and force the Palestinians to bury their dead.

It's a perpetual motion device for conflict. Israelis illegal settlements and colonial expansion of their country works against any instance of peace and the two-state solution is basically a shiny red ball to throw around. Palestinian hardliners can continue to say that Israelis policy is to run out the Arabs and all the humanitarian aid in the world won't change the state of Gaza. It's a penal colony full of young people.

When people are afforded jobs and opportunity, they don't have time to fire rockets over into the nearby country - especially when the nearby country is your source of money in the region. Examples have been seen in the West Bank but again, it's undercut by many of the Israeli policies - again in the name of 'security'.

And for everyone else saying to waste civilians wholesale because you can't be bothered to distinguish between hardliners and the average person trying to scratch out life - remember 9/11, idiots.

If you think it's "irrelevant" then you're blind. This is a very effective strategy to create more radicals willing to toss their life away to kill more Israel/NA/EU citizens.

Unless you can kill every single Muslim in the world, it's not gonna bring peace. It's only going to create more and more terrorist organization.

As I said pages ago.

I kinda view this situation like the US and Japan in World War II. The US had the choice of fighting their way, island to island, and then across Japan to force the eventual win. Doing so would have costed countless lives on both sides. Instead, they dropped two atomic bombs, killing 120,000-250,000 thousand people, mostly civilians.

Israel is in a similar situation. They could slowly go through Gaza, and attempt to take out oppositional fighters, but the civilian casualties would still be highly probable, due to Hamas fighters not wearing any uniform, instead, dressing like civilians. This would also open up the Israeli military up to attacks not only from gunfire, but also rocket fire, RPGs, and potentially, suicide bombers. This would also increase the civilian casualties.

If they can take out Hamas without killing any civilian, then it may work. But they made the worst decision, so it's not gonna work.

Muslims and Islam itself arent the problem, its the radical element who twist the faith to their own political/hateful needs that are the ultimate problem. As long as you have one radicalized psuedo-Imam you will have multitudes of followers that will only multiply as one either blows themselves up, or gets blown up by "enemy" fire.

They actually did move towards "building a sense of trust". They signed a peace treaty with Egypt, and gave back the Sinai Peninsula in the process. This treaty has been held to this day and both sides currently live in peace with one another.

Do you think "radical element" can pop out of nowhere? lol

The radical element which twisted the faith into their own hateful needs is the action from Israel.

If you live in a peaceful world with no war, and you have food, family and a well paid job, will you ever bother think about tossing your life away to kill your enemy? I doubt it, unless you're insane.

If you live in a world where ppl drop bombs above your head and all your family are dead, and ppl been telling you "they're your enemy! They're evil? See what they did? They kill innocent!" for your entire life, will you toss your life away to kill your enemy? Probably yes?

Yes. A lot of the hate groups in the United States don't have a real reason to hate their target group, other than that's how they were raised, or they got mixed in with the wrong group at some point and do it because that's all they know.

hrrrrrggghhh

a peaceful world with no war....you wouldn't have enemies....


depends

Or humans.

Peace is too hard and requires not only hard work, but follow through. Much easier to just keep on fighting.

That's a general statement, by the way.

We need an Alien Invasion to rally around. We might just get that since the unexplained Radio Signal from the trailing end of the Perseus Arm still completely baffles astronomers.

Yeah, but that's 250 million light years away. If Earth is actually interesting to aliens from the Perseus Arm, then the universe must be really, really boring.

But yeah, we need an alien invasion, and maybe a super-inspirational speech from President Bill Pullman to bring us together.

An alien race would take 1 look at us and decide that contact would be a prelude to an inevitable war, since we can't get on with each other as a planet what hope does a race from another planet have.

Yeah, you'd think we'd be smarter than to start a war with a technologically superior entity, but seeing as how there's some context for that already in this thread, I have my doubts.

Make sure to spread the word exclusively with telegraphs, which are scientifically proven to be apocalypse-proof.

don't worry man. All we have to do is to hope they abduct some ebola infected person from africa. Have them drink the water here. Use the spaceship from the roswell crash to deliver a nuke to their mothership. Use a decommissioned battleship to fight off an invasion from the sea. Fight an urban guerrilla war. and use flame throwers.

and bring forth masterchief and give him a ton of marines as sacrifices so he can trade empty plasma weapons for battle rifles