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It has to be sensible people. I can't define that for you, you have to find out whether that person is sensible or not yourself (I mentioned serial killers earlier).

No. But welfare and universal healthcare are not straightforward issues. Did the majority think that it was not a good thing to help others in principle? (even science tells us that most of us reciprocate feelings e.g. we feel happy when we make others happy).

People can disagree with welfare for a variety of reasons: they don't think it's beneficial to poor people themselves, they think it's harmful to others, they think it's being exploited, etc. It doesn't have to be "because they deserve to die from hunger like the pigs they are". They might think: "I'd love to help the needy if I could, but I find this method to do more harm than good".

Again, I never read those threads you mentioned, so I don't know.

And "extremists" do not represent the most of humanity in any way (even if a whole group of people are extremist, they represent a minority to the whole of humanity).

I stated it clearly: the core value, and mild variations.

Not sure. Can you cite an example?
Keep in mind that we're specifically talking about "upright" for testimony acceptance. We need to view the scholar's criteria, which are based upon an absolute, binding moral reference (else they wouldn't be generally accepted..)
E.g no 2 Muslims will argue over the issue of drinking.

That's why I said there are multiple scholars with different criteria, and their criteria are known to the other scholars (which is what matters, you wanna know on what basis did they judged that person "trustworthy" or dismissed him altogether").

I heard that the woman that heads PETA wants to be cooked and eaten...

Well anyone that is a PETA fanatic is crazy though.

You've gone from stating that morals are timeless and universal, to that the people that you can even ask about morals can't be defined.

This reminds me of a question asked on the Okcupid list which is "are morals universal or relative?".

I mostly see "universal" answered.

By your logic your 4.9k post on this forum is useless as well. Signing petition is just like posting on a forum, it's expressing opinion, and 90% of time it doesn't change this world.

Oh, absolutely.

I don't know I think this forum has a point. I'm not sure what the point is but it has a point...

***, forum post counts are so important, whenever I put them on job applications potential employers say I'm "overqualified" and tell me to "seek better opportunities." In an unrelated note, it seems employers nowadays have a better sense of humor. Every time I've left the office of a potential employer, they've burst into thunderous laughter shortly thereafter. Must be funny pics on the internet or something.

ftfy.

I have yet to see a forum post that changed the world.

Tell that to the tumblrtards who invaded 4chan earlier this month. Their whole world changed when 4chan retaliated, from what I hear you still can't look at Dr.Who tags without seeing copious amounts of porn and beheading GIFs.

Spectrophilia! "Hey baby, show me your ectoplasm!" >:)

I found more cool stuff, you guys talked about Hamas charter earlier; did you guys read Likud charter ?

One of the cool thing it say is:

There won't be a palestinian state and doing more colony is the realisation of Zionist values and a fundamental Israeli right.

So yeah clearly Israel is for peace right ?

>last month
They've been around for quite a while unfortunately, but that's mainly because a lot of people are part of each community and cross post. The extremists come from time to time but they're usually dealt with in a swift fashion.

There are several kinds of cancer on internet. Redditards are a big one, Tumblerites are probably a bigger one given the nature of a good part of their community, but both share the exact same bad sides, which you cannot find on 4chan, it's literally not there.

The foreveralone girls posts on Reddit/Tumblr are what make people react the most. Along with the fat women movement and the *** one. SJW all day every day, nightmare 24/7.

I just personally don't understand the mentality of those people. I'm curious about it, but I have yet to exactly understand why they are the way they are.

You can't spell Ashkenazi without the 'nazi.

I've always believed that signing a petition was like signing a deathlist for someone.

Yeah, as I hinted at before, I really only posted here to argue for the sake of arguing because I was bored and this thread seemed like a train wreck anyway. My knowledge of foreign affairs is admittedly low.

Serious question though, I'm really curious about what caused such strong hatred toward them? If you live in Israel then it's completely understandable, but it doesn't look like it.

It doesn't require hatred to wish that, just sayin'

Well there must be.....some reason then? :D

Not necessarily, but I can't speak for the guy, I can only say the reasons I have at times came to the same conclusion, but I've since stepped away from that stance.

Wiping out Hamas is the first step towards actual peace. And even if it doesn't bring peace, at least the world is rid of a terrorist organization.

Fixed it for you, do not thanks me no need.

Heil Hitler!

How do you know? Can you predict what'd happen in the future? Even if you wipe out Hamas how do you know Palestinian people wouldn't start another "terrorist organization" to fight back?

Also FYI, certain country doesn't view them as "terrorist organization", IMO bombarding innocent civilians is just as "terrorist", if not more.

Regardless, it was Hamas that rejected the extended ceasefire. It's hard to side with an aggressor that refuses to hold off launching missiles for longer than 12 hours.

It is Israel who started the attack lying to it's citizen about 3 israeli kid that got sadly killed.

It is Israel who keep destroying Palestinian home to build new colony, it is even on the Likud Charter.

"Aggressor" isn't a very objective term to use in this situation. Hamas is "aggressor" to Israel is just like how Israel is "Aggressor" to Palestinian. If Israel wasn't "aggressor" at start Hamas wouldn't even exist.

Finding excuses to justify attacking the innocent is like watching 5 year old kid arguing. "You start it first!" "NO YOU!". I have a hard time understanding why so many people defend for Israel even though they don't live there, when one side is clearly slaughtering a lot more ppl.

Well, I suppose we can all sleep better at night knowing that Hamas is rejecting cease-fires and murdering people because the other guys started it.