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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 08:42:26
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Trump reveals tax plan

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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump plans to unveil an ambitious tax plan Monday that he says would eliminate income taxes for millions of households, lower the tax rate on all businesses to 15% and change tax treatment of companies’ overseas earnings.

Under the Trump plan, no federal income tax would be levied against individuals earning less than $25,000 and married couples earning less than $50,000. The Trump campaign estimates that would reduce taxes to zero for 31 million households that currently pay at least some income tax. The highest individual income-tax rate would be 25%, compared with the current 39.6% rate.

Many middle-income households would have a lower tax rate under Mr. Trump’s proposal, but because high-income households generally pay income tax at much higher rates, his proposed across-the-board rate cut could have a positive impact on them, too. For example, an analysis of Jeb Bush’s plan—taxing individuals’ incomes at no more than 28%—by the business-backed Tax Foundation found that the biggest percentage winners in after-tax income would be the top 1% of earners.

Mr. Trump’s plan appears designed to help him, as the GOP front-runner, cement his standing as a populist—though that message is complicated by the fact that the billionaire, like other Republican leaders, would eliminate the estate tax.

“My plan will bring sanity, common sense and simplification to our country’s catastrophic tax code,” Mr. Trump said in an interview. “It will create jobs and incentives of all kinds while simultaneously growing the economy.”

But Mr. Trump will face a challenge in convincing skeptics that his aggressive tax cuts can be implemented without adding to the federal deficit.

To pay for the proposed tax benefits, the Trump plan would eliminate or reduce deductions and loopholes to high-income taxpayers, and would curb some deductions and other breaks for middle-class taxpayers by capping the level of individual deductions, a politically dicey proposition. Mr. Trump also would end the “carried interest” tax break, which allows many investment-fund managers to pay lower taxes on much of their compensation.

A significant revenue gain would come from a one-time tax on overseas profits that could encourage U.S. multinational corporations to return an estimated $2.1 trillion in cash now sitting offshore, largely to avoid U.S. taxes. His proposal would impose a mandatory 10% tax on all of that money, even if the money stays overseas, but allow a few years for the tax to be paid. The Trump campaign estimates that many companies would choose to bring their money back home, boosting jobs and investment in the U.S.

Mr. Trump also would impose an immediate tax on overseas earnings of American corporations; currently, such tax payments can be deferred. All told, the campaign says the plan would be revenue neutral—neither raising nor lowering federal revenues—by the third year and then begin adding revenue.

With the tax plan’s release, Mr. Trump is moving to quell criticism that his campaign has been more style and less substance. This tax proposal follows his well-known immigration plan in the summer and one on gun rights last week.

Mr. Trump saves some money and fiscal headaches by skipping some of the big but complicated and costly changes that other candidates have embraced, such as business-expensing breaks and so-called territorial taxation for multinational corporations.

On the individual side, Mr. Trump would consolidate the current seven rates to four, of 0%, 10%, 20% and 25%. Those changes alone would exempt all married couples making $50,000 or less from the income tax, as well as singles making $25,000 or less.

The 10% bracket would apply to incomes from $50,000 to $100,000 for a married couple; the current 10% bracket has a ceiling of $18,450. The new 25% top bracket would apply to married couples’ incomes in excess of $300,000, which currently are subject to rates as high as 39.6%. Mr. Trump also would cut the top capital gains rate to 20%, from the current 23.8%. And he would eliminate the alternative minimum tax.

But the candidate doesn’t propose to end taxation of individuals’ investment income, as some other Republicans propose, nor would he expand the standard deduction, child-credit and other middle-class breaks as some other GOP candidates have suggested.

For businesses, Mr. Trump’s 15% rate is among the lowest that have been proposed so far. Rand Paul has proposed a 14.5% flat-tax rate for all types of income. Marco Rubio, another candidate with a detailed plan, would tax all business income at no more than 25%. Mr. Bush has proposed a 20% top corporate rate. The current top corporate tax rate is 35%, and small business income is subject to rates of as much as 39.6% (although many small businesses pay out a lot of their profits as lower-taxed dividends or capital gains). The campaign argues the rate would be among the lowest among industrialized nations, giving U.S. companies an edge to compete.

The lower corporate rates would provide “a tremendous stimulus for the economy,” the campaign’s plan argues. Mr. Trump would not, however, allow businesses to expense all their new equipment purchases, as some other Republicans do.

The plan proposes to simplify tax filing for many lower- to middle-income households. The plan says that some 42 million households that currently file tax forms to establish that they don’t owe any federal income tax now will be able to file their returns on a single page.

The 31 million households that have been paying some taxes but now won’t have any tax liability can use the same single-page, and keep an average of $1,000 in tax savings, the Trump campaign says. Today, 36% of American households today pay no income taxes, and that number would grow to 50%.

The Trump plan would raise revenues in at least a couple of significant ways. It would limit the value of individual deductions, with middle-class households keeping all or most of their deductions, higher-income taxpayers keeping around half of theirs, and the very wealthy losing a significant chunk of theirs. It also would wipe out many corporate deductions.

All taxpayers would keep their current deductions for mortgage-interest on their homes and charitable giving.

The plan also proposes capping the amount of interest payments that businesses can deduct now, a change phased in over a long period, and would impose a corporate tax on future foreign earnings of American multinationals.

While I don't think this is a viable plan without also spending cuts, it would at least simplify the code somewhat.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:23:21
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Surely you can support not intervening in others lives and telling them what they can't do, right?

Telling people what they can and can't do is literally what laws are for. No, I do not support abolishing all laws so that people can do whatever they want.

I support abolishing all laws so I can roam the Southwest Mad Max style !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:24:59
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fonewear said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Surely you can support not intervening in others lives and telling them what they can't do, right?

Telling people what they can and can't do is literally what laws are for. No, I do not support abolishing all laws so that people can do whatever they want.

I support abolishing all laws so I can roam the Southwest Mad Max style !
Who says you can't now?
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:26:01
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What is so wrong about not wanting people having government paid abortions ? I don't care if Susie has an abortion but why should I pay for it ?
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-28 09:26:29
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What is so wrong about not wanting people having government paid abortions ? I don't care if Susie has an abortion but why should I pay for it ?
You already don't. But even if you did, it's cheaper than paying for it for the next 18 years.

I mean if you're talking straight financials.

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If you can't afford an abortion while I feel bad for you son but that isn't my problem.
But it will be.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:26:30
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If you can't afford an abortion while I feel bad for you son but that isn't my problem.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:28:05
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Jetackuu said: »
fonewear said: »
What is so wrong about not wanting people having government paid abortions ? I don't care if Susie has an abortion but why should I pay for it ?
You already don't.
Right, you have to actually pay taxes to pay for government sponsored anything.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:32:13
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Jetackuu said: »
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If you can't afford an abortion while I feel bad for you son but that isn't my problem.
But it will be.
Right, because it's our fault for you making bad choices in life.

I mean, why else should you demand that I pay for it (indirectly)?
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:33:15
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I'm looking up stuff now (hey I learned something) they spend 42% of their budget on STD testing and treatment. That seems like a hell of a lot of money to find out you got herpes !

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/04/how-planned-parenthood-actually-uses-its-federal-funding/

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By Jetackuu 2015-09-28 09:34:54
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fonewear said: »
I'm looking up stuff now (hey I learned something) they spend 42% of their budget on STD testing and treatment. That seems like a hell of a lot of money to find out you got herpes !



Well it's extra expensive since they have to keep a lot of their equipment separate. Plus that "3%" can't be accurate.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:35:19
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Also of note 41% of funding from you John Q Public:

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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:37:36
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We aren't directly paying for abortions but that is like saying my taxes dollars don't directly get wasted on ***I don't' care about...

Unless you stop paying taxes you are indirectly supporting abortion.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:40:31
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fonewear said: »
I'm looking up stuff now (hey I learned something) they spend 42% of their budget on STD testing and treatment. That seems like a hell of a lot of money to find out you got herpes !

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/04/how-planned-parenthood-actually-uses-its-federal-funding/

And it's still illegal to fund abortion and/or abortion "services"

Directly or indirectly.

And people still claim that PP is not breaking the law....
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-28 09:40:42
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fonewear said: »
We aren't directly paying for abortions but that is like saying my taxes dollars don't directly get wasted on ***I don't' care about...

Unless you stop paying taxes you are indirectly supporting abortion.

Not really, but we've covered this in length on previous occasions (well not us directly).

There's a lot of things I don't like what I pay in taxes going to, but considering how small of a drop it is in the bucket, idc. Time is better spent worrying about what your local taxes go to anyway.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-09-28 09:41:17
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fone I saw a guy named 'hillbilly69' on the ps4 over the weekend, & thought "HEY! there's fone!"

I think I'm on AH too much.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:42:21
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fone I saw a guy named 'hillbilly69' on the ps4 over the weekend, & thought "HEY! there's fone!"

I think I'm on AH too much.

I'm hillbilly6969 !
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:43:11
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Speaking of PS4 you guys playing MGS V ?
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-09-28 09:45:15
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Speaking of PS4 you guys playing MGS V ?

I should. kind of burnt out on other BS at the moment.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:45:40
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Jetackuu said: »
Not really, but we've covered this in length on previous occasions (well not us directly).
Don't you mean that you expressed your viewpoints but ignored any and all counterarguments with sources, even when you provide no sources on your own (well, you never do)?
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 09:46:45
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Speaking of PS4 you guys playing MGS V ?

I should. kind of burnt out on other BS at the moment.

It is pretty damn good.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 09:49:51
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fonewear said: »
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Speaking of PS4 you guys playing MGS V ?

I should. kind of burnt out on other BS at the moment.

It is pretty damn good.
If you are into those types of games that is.
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-28 10:00:04
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Speaking of PS4 you guys playing MGS V ?
I haven't played a MGS game since the first Playstation one. I have been thinking about getting copies of the sequels from my friend who's really into it, but I have a long list of games to play.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 10:03:54
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I haven't played a MGS game since 3 on PS2 so I was long overdue !
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 10:07:40
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In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-28 10:08:17
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In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.
Last week news.

Get with the times man!
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-09-28 10:08:31
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fonewear said: »
In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.
Oh, thank God!

EDIT: Not that I care, I'm just glad the MGS talk stopped in Random Politics & Religion.
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 10:09:21
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.
Oh, thank God!

I know you guys are exited !
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-28 10:09:26
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fonewear said: »
In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.

Oh man, that was days ago, where have you been?

Can I laugh when this is over and it changes nothing?
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 10:09:52
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.
Last week news.

Get with the times man!

I am with the times the times aren't with me !
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By fonewear 2015-09-28 10:10:56
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Jetackuu said: »
fonewear said: »
In Hillary news apparently the FBI has recovered her deleted e mails.

Oh man, that was days ago, where have you been?

Can I laugh when this is over and it changes nothing?

You can laugh but I'll laugh harder when she fumbles her way towards the nomination.
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