Random Politics & Religion #00

Maybe your interpretation of things isn't the only conclusion there is?

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Seventeen months before President Obama dismissed the Islamic State as a "JV team," a Defense Intelligence Agency report predicted the rise of the terror group and likely establishment of a caliphate if its momentum was not reversed.

While the report was circulated to the CIA, State Department and senior military leaders, among others, it's not known whether Obama was ever briefed on the document.

The DIA report, which was reviewed by Fox News, was obtained through a federal lawsuit by conservative watchdog Judicial Watch. Documents from the lawsuit also reveal a host of new details about events leading up to the 2012 Benghazi terror attack -- and how the movement of weapons from Libya to Syria fueled the violence there.

The report on the growing threat posed by what is now known as the Islamic State was sent on Aug. 5, 2012.

The report warned the continued deterioration of security conditions would have "dire consequences on the Iraqi situation," and huge benefits for ISIS -- which grew out of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

"This creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq) to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi," the document states, adding "ISI (Islamic State of Iraq) could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory."

ISIS would, in June 2014, go on to declare a caliphate in territory spanning Iraq and Syria, in turn drawing more foreign fighters to their cause from around the world.

Also among the documents is a heavily redacted DIA report that details weapons operations inside Libya before the 2012 terror attack in Benghazi. The Oct. 5, 2012 report leaves no doubt that U.S. intelligence agencies were fully aware that lethal weapons were being shipped from Benghazi to Syrian ports.

The report said: "Weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles were shipped from the Port of Benghazi, Libya to the Port of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The weapons shipped during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG's, and 125 mm and 155 mm howitzers missiles."

Current and former intelligence and administration officials have consistently skirted questions about weapons shipments, and what role the movement played in arming extremist groups the U.S. government is now trying to defeat in Syria and Iraq.

In an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier broadcast May 11, former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell, deflected questions:

Baier: Were CIA officers tracking the movement of weapons from Libya to Syria?

Morell: I can't talk about that.

Baier: You can't talk about it?

Morell: I can't talk about it.

Baier: Even if they weren't moving the weapons themselves, are you saying categorically that the U.S. government and the CIA played no role whatsoever in the movement of weapons from Libya ...

Morell: Yes.

Baier: -- to Syria?

Morell: We played no role. Now whether we were watching other people do it, I can't talk about it.

While the DIA report was not a finished intelligence assessment, such Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) are vetted before distribution, a former Pentagon official said.

The October 2012 report may also be problematic for Hillary Clinton, who likewise skirted the weapons issue during her only congressional testimony on Benghazi in January 2013. In an exchange with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who is now a Republican candidate for president, the former secretary of state said, "I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody's ever raised that with me."

Referring to Fox News' ongoing reporting that a weapons ship, Al Entisar, had moved weapons from Libya to Turkey with a final destination of Syria in September 2012, Paul responded, "It's been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that they may have weapons." He asked whether the CIA annex which came under attack on Sept. 11, 2012 was involved in those shipments.

Clinton answered: "Well, senator, you'll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available."

In a follow-up letter, the State Department Office of Legislative Affairs provided a narrow response to the senator's question, and did not speak to the larger issue of weapons moving from Libya to Syria.

"The United States is not involved in any transfer of weapons to Turkey," the February 2013 letter from Thomas B. Gibbons, acting assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs, said.

Heavily redacted congressional testimony, declassified after the House intelligence committee Benghazi investigation concluded, shows conflicting accounts were apparently given to lawmakers.

On Nov. 15 2012, Morell and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified "Yes" on whether the U.S. intelligence community was aware arms were moving from Libya to Syria. This line of questioning by Republican Rep. Devin Nunes, who is now the intelligence committee chairman, was shut down by his predecessor Mike Rogers, R-Mich., who said not everyone in the classified hearing was "cleared" to hear the testimony, which means they did not have a high enough security clearance.

An outside analyst told Fox News that Rogers' comments suggest intelligence related to the movement of weapons was a "read on," and limited to a very small number of recipients.

Six months later, on May 22, 2013, Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, now chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, asked if the CIA was "monitoring arms that others were sending into Syria." Morell said, "No, sir."

The Judicial Watch documents also contain a DIA report from Sept. 12, 2012. It indicates that within 24 hours of the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens, Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty at the CIA annex, there were strong indicators that the attack was planned at least a week in advance, and was retaliation for a June 2012 drone strike that killed an Al Qaeda strategist -- there is no discussion of a demonstration or an anti-Islam video, which were initially cited by the Obama administration as contributing factors.

"The attack was planned ten or more days prior to approximately 01 September 2012. The intention was to attack the consulate and to kill as many Americans as possible to seek revenge for the US killing of Aboyahiye (Alaliby) in Pakistan and in memorial of the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center buildings."

The DIA report also states a little-known group, "Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman," claimed responsibility, though the group has not figured prominently in previous congressional investigations. The document goes on to say the group's leader is Abdul Baset, known by the name Azuz, "sent by (Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri) to set up Al Qaeda bases in Libya."

"The Obama administration says it was a coincidence that it occurred on 9/11. In fact, their intelligence said it wasn't a coincidence and in fact specifically the attack occurred because it was 9/11," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told Fox News.

I've frequently wondered how much the president is and isn't told by various intelligence agencies and their assett. Not just this president, but any president.

You would think that he would be privileged to see most intelligence that goes on with the US. It seems like this guy doesn't even know what's going on in his own inner circle without reading about it in the newspaper.

Makes you wonder what he really does in the office.....

Makes you wonder what he really does in the office.....

Okay, okay, I get it.

Instead of considering potential flaws or hang-ups in the intelligence networks it was just a segue to more boring repetitive insults of the president.

My mistake. -.-;

You would think that he would be privileged to see most intelligence that goes on with the US. It seems like this guy doesn't even know what's going on in his own inner circle without reading about it in the newspaper.

Makes you wonder what he really does in the office.....

To be fair we could do it with past presidents if you like. Clinton for instance (Bubba) spent a lot of time doing secret drug deals (he loves his cocaine) while contemplating how to get his buddies out of trouble that were getting caught do illegal things, in between having Hillary send out her goons to silence all the women he was sleeping with. Of course like all presidents, he too also spent time raising money, but I can't recall offhand how he did it, besides bribes obviously.

texas should be broken up into four smaller states.

YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!!!

I've frequently wondered how much the president is and isn't told by various intelligence agencies and their assett. Not just this president, but any president.

It's probably much the same as it is for company presidents. Most of the underlings are deathly afraid of upsetting him - not because he's a bad person, but because of his position in relation to theirs.

As such, they only disturb him when something either requires his signature, or has exploded beyond their own ability to control, and reaches "president needs to know" level.

I hate every ape I see from chimpan A to chimpan Z !

Hey you asked what he (they) really do in office, just answering you question, lol.

Where were you yesterday!?

**** shotgun*

Reagan also spent the latter part of his years in office just trying to remember where he was, who he was, etc. as his Alzheimer's (dementia) was near full force by then.