Random Politics & Religion #00

People who essentially make their living complaining about every tiny racial issue. You may know them as the types that make hilarious comments like 'why do a bunch of WHITE MEN hit around a BLACK puck???' RACISTS.

Maybe because ice is clear and a black puck sticks out on the ice...

There's no reason one can't mean the exact same thing calling the boyfriend and the black waiter "a dumb gorilla".

You're excusing (and therefore advocating) the double standard.

It's almost as if accepting that your actions have consequences, whether you intended them or not.

Sure, you can mean the exact same thing calling the boyfriend and the black waiter "a dumb gorilla".

Your relationship with both of them will likely follow similar trajectories as well.

You seem to be missing a key point of communication, and how to communicate well: both parties need to have an agreed understanding of the meanings of the words used.

In part I see where he's coming from.

It is shitty.

I think part of it for me may simply be that I learned relatively early in life to watch what you say around people because not everyone understands things like "irony", "dark humour", "satire", and "exagerrated responses for the sake of amusement".

Got to spend some quality time with the principal on more than one occasion explaining no, I didn't actually intend to kill anyone or start my own cult, and no, I don't think actual terrible things happening are funny...

You know that whole "actions have consequences thing" goes both ways you know, or do victim classes get a pass on "jumping to conclusions"?

Wish I learnt this sooner even though I guess I'm still in my early life.

When I say "early" I mean "before I turned 18 and it would just automatically lead to police interaction, even if no actual charges".

Yes, and both parties are responsible for reaching that understanding.

Absolutely. That doesn't mean we should condone people jumping to conclusions and losing their temper over stupid crap. Everyone says things that can be taken out of context and twisted.

Is there any positive way to call a waiter (regardless of race) "a dumb gorilla"?
Because at this point, your position for arguing that both parties being responsible for reaching understanding isn't exactly stable.

I guess we have to have a double standard.

Is there any way you can positively call your boyfriend a "dumb gorilla"?

Sure, which is why it is important to understand the context.

Then there is the entire maturity discussion: why would you even bother using words such as "***" or "***" with your friends?

I'm pretty sure none of us have friends....


Edited for Ravael: That anyone else can see... >.>

I have lots of friends.

There's a difference between someone not finding something funny, and someone not recognizing something as humor.

I don't think Jeff Dunham is funny. I don't think Dane Cook is funny. I don't think 99% of sitcoms are funny. I never thought Andrew Dice Clay was funny. I recognize all of them as attempts at humor.


Again. I'm not even saying I was right, as I think you'll understand if you reread what I was saying. I'm just saying I learned early in life to restrict certain things to those who will take them in context, even if they don't think they're funny.

You're in Ni sometimes, ask Dreadnot or any of my current LS mates about my humor. Or, hell, just see the ***I say in Ni. It's not always funny to other people. But no one thinks I'm serious about everything, either. I speak in hyperbole a lot. Sometimes the only person I amuse is myself. I'm aware of that and take it in stride. In fact, I think I've said as much to you specifically in the past 24 hours, which is why this:


Is somewhat out of line. I don't get offended when people don't think what I say is funny. I don't even get offended when they don't realize it's a joke. But suggesting that at least some types of dark or satirical humor are "not 100% jokes" or "a front for actual malignancy" is a stretch.

Or maybe my desire to get a laugh out of folks overrides my knowing when and when not to make jokes sometimes. Because sometimes you do need to restrict yourself around those who won't understand something. Children, stupid people, people from Philadelphia.

You know the type.

"F*ggot" wasn't always a pejorative gay slur, growing up or historically. It frequently meant, something similar to weirdo. Why do I need to stop using words because someone doesn't know how to do anything but take them out of context?

Sometimes, when your friend does something strange, the only appropriate response is to call em a f*g.

I think we're now firmly into Louis C.K. territory (and George Carlin before him.)

You don't have to stop calling anyone ***, Nausi. Actually, say it early and often ^^

Because you aren't talking about a cigarette, a bundle of sticks, or an old woman?

Which has an entire different history.

But that's my most endearing quality.

Keep using the word, forget those ***!

QFFT!

The tolerant one arrives to make sure we don't stop any victim class from releasing their "right" to jump to conclusions.

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YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!!!