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Random Politics & Religion #00
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Seraph.Ramyrez said: » Did someone drop a hornets' nest in FFXI's collective underwear over the weekend or what? Cause if that's the case, then no. I question your motives and judgment at times, it's true. But I don't think you'd put a hornets' nest in your own britches. Now that flower head's last thread is locked, expect another one to show it's ugly face.
If he's smart, he would make it about a different topic than the ones that got locked.... It took you two days to figure that out really >.>
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Shiva.Viciousss said: » It took you two days to figure that out really >.>
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » flower head What is "flower head" supposed to even mean kingnoobie? In order for a nickname to catch on it has to make sense to more than one person... Are you saying he is a hippy? Because that doesn't even make any sense. Were you trying to say his head was full of "Flour" Did I miss a day? Because I don't see anyone else referring to him that way... Please select from the following list of approved nicknames "LOLgrim" "Grimey" - from the Simpsons episode  and "***"
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » flower head What is "flower head" supposed to even mean kingnoobie? In order for a nickname to catch on it has to make sense to more than one person... Are you saying he is a hippy? Because that doesn't even make any sense. Were you trying to say his head was full of "Flour" Did I miss a day? Because I don't see anyone else referring to him that way... Please select from the following list of approved nicknames "LOLgrim" "Grimey" - from the Simpsons episode and "***" Grimey: I eat like a slob but no one cares cause I'm Homer Simpson Homer: Yea you wish ! Lakshmi.Aelius said: » Aelius sees all. and then he chases it, batting it around the floor and then pouncing on it like his jungle cat ancestors and then he does that yoga cat pose where he wiggles his butt in the air then he jumps really high in the air for no reason.... and then he gets bored and cleans himself in the window sill
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Lakshmi.Aelius said: » Aelius sees all. and then he chases it, batting it around the floor and then pouncing on it like his jungle cat ancestors and then he does that yoga cat pose where he wiggles his butt in the air then he jumps really high in the air for no reason.... and then he gets bored and cleans himself in the window sill 
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » What is "flower head" supposed to even mean kingnoobie? In order for a nickname to catch on it has to make sense to more than one person... Are you saying he is a hippy? Because that doesn't even make any sense. Were you trying to say his head was full of "Flour" Long story short, it signifies that he has ***for brains (therefor, flowers growing on his head). Shiva.Nikolce said: » Did I miss a day? Because I don't see anyone else referring to him that way... Lakshmi.Aelius said: » Aelius sees all. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Abbott v. Patrick Pre-K smackdown referred to in the letter by Smith. For those that don't know, property taxes in Texas fund education.
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Bahamut.Kara said: » Quote: To the notion of personal responsibility, I'll ask again since you elected to not answer: "Are you responsible for the fact that I don't have the antibodies to something you may have already gotten over?" Is it part of your moral code to not get anyone else sick ever? Do you even think that it's possible to do that? Live a life in which you never pass a microbe to anyone else? The answer of course which you're too scared to say is "No, of course not, Nausi. That's pretty unreasonable." If you knowingly endanger others (as in travel when you know you are contaigious), that is a choice you have made to put their welfare below your travel plans. There is a vast difference from unknowingly traveling with an illiness while you are contagious. To intentionally traveling while sick. You're dodging. You knowingly have viruses, bacteria, fungi, and other such microbes that other people will get sick from on your person 100% of the time. Get the flu shot? That doesn't mean you still can't pass alone someone else's flu germs. On top of that, even if you are sick, it doesn't mean you'll get someone else sick. "Personal responsibility" does not mean never shaking someone's hand for fear of exposing them to yourself. Bahamut.Kara said: » Quote: To the other point where you take a "chain of command" reference and grossly misapply it so it gives you something to freak out about. What are you saying, that because I think military officers are ultimately responsible for actions of their subordinates, it therefore means that no one in Baltimore is justified in rioting? Biggest strawman ever. WOW! I thought Flavin couldn't be topped, but there we go. Congrats, you're my new favorite! Your "chain of command" reference was not taken out of context. The entire conversation was about "authority" (specifically CDC somehow in charge of hospitals) and you chose to use a military example. For that matter "just following orders" has not been a legally justified excuse for a long time. Talk about strawman. I never said any of this drival. You are the one claiming the Democrat party is the one responsible for all the problems. Since you forgot what you wrote: 1st, the "chain of command" was taken entirely out of context. Military and/or hospital authority in no way relates to the rioters in Baltimore. 2nd, it's not a straw man when I turn around and ask you if you mean X by your statement. I'm asking you to clarify your position. Bahamut.Kara said: » Somehow the problem is that cities "under democrat rule" are this way because of the political party involved. To this point, I will say, the reason the poor black folk in Baltimore have been ***on for the last 50 years is because they keep electing the same people (democrats) who keep shitting on them back into office. To the extent that this is something that could only happen with democrats, it is. Black people monolithicly vote democrat, they never vote Republican. If they monolithicly voted republican it might possibly happen with republicans too but it doesn't so it's entirely wrong to place this at the feet of any other party but the democrats. Bahamut.Kara said: » Again a mis characterization. I spoke of an incident in Providence where a suspect came in and shot one of the cops interrogating him, then jumped out the 3rd floor window and ran off downtown. When the cops caught him, they beat the ***outta him. In that specific case and in those under similar circumstances I am content to look the other way. People should be afraid to murder cops. How you turn that into the blanket statement of "he's ok with cops "getting even" with suspects and arrestees" is just wrong. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Bahamut.Kara said: » Please see Nausi's last paragraph Nausi said: I couldn't care less about any of them because they all vote democrat. and of course maybe that's just the way I read it... You know, at least you make it obvious when you misrepresent someone else's views. My hat's off to you today. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Black people monolithicly vote democrat, they never vote Republican.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I can't rely on *not* taking what you say literally. You could say *currently*, because historically, they used to be pretty fairly distributed towards both political parties. Up until around the civil rights movement. If you want to get an idea of maybe why that changed, here's a good start.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » never shaking someone's hand for fear of exposing them to yourself. So when there was that ebola outbreak you were ok with people from the infected areas coming in because, you know, it's not my fault if you catch my ebola!
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » People should be afraid to murder cops. Cops are supposed to uphold the law not break it. The job is tough undoubtedly but you're still supposed to enforce the law as it is not take the law into your own hands by doing whatever you think is just. The system is supposed to be better than the criminals.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » People should not want to murder anyone... Flavin has spoken. The world is now at peace. No need for cops because criminals no longer exists.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » "Personal responsibility" does not mean never shaking someone's hand for fear of exposing them to yourself. Personal responsibility is not about not doing something. It's everything about accepting the responsibility for what you do. Now, we are supposed to encourage people to act in a generally responsible manner, because that makes life as a society/civilization tenable. Things such as not shitting or tossing garbage in the freshwater supply, covering orifices to reduce spray when sneezing, using proper equipment when entering isolation wards.
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EpicFantasy said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » People should not want to murder anyone... Flavin has spoken. The world is now at peace. No need for cops because criminals no longer exists. Lakshmi.Flavin said: » People should not want to murder anyone... Can we not agree that what he's saying is the proper ideal, if not the reality? EpicFantasy said: » Flavin has spoken. The world is now at peace. No need for cops because criminals no longer exists. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Things such as not shitting or tossing garbage in the freshwater supply God dammit, Mil. NOW you tell me! Now how am I supposed to dispose of my refuse? Ragnarok.Nausi said: » You're dodging. You knowingly have viruses, bacteria, fungi, and other such microbes that other people will get sick from on your person 100% of the time. Get the flu shot? That doesn't mean you still can't pass alone someone else's flu germs. On top of that, even if you are sick, it doesn't mean you'll get someone else sick. "Personal responsibility" does not mean never shaking someone's hand for fear of exposing them to yourself. No, I'm not dodging. If you know you are contaigious and you willfully travel because of travel plans, you are knowingly endangering others. It is a choice you have made. Yet, in your mind, you should not be responsible for that choice. Personal responsibility is accepting that your actions have consequences and accepting responsiblity for those actions. It doesn't mean you will never cause harm to others. That is beyond unrealistic. It means you accept responsiblity for the harm you do cause. Quote: 1st, the "chain of command" was taken entirely out of context. Military and/or hospital authority in no way relates to the rioters in Baltimore. 2nd, it's not a straw man when I turn around and ask you if you mean X by your statement. I'm asking you to clarify your position. Your chain of command argument is not legally viable. It hasn't been for several hundred years. I think the rioters should be held responsible for their actions. Those who are looting are idiots and hurting those who are trying to get a discussion started. Quote: To this point, I will say, the reason the poor black folk in Baltimore have been ***on for the last 50 years is because they keep electing the same people (democrats) who keep shitting on them back into office. To the extent that this is something that could only happen with democrats, it is. Black people monolithicly vote democrat, they never vote Republican. If they monolithicly voted republican it might possibly happen with republicans too but it doesn't so it's entirely wrong to place this at the feet of any other party but the democrats. I don't even know how to respond to this. There are systemic issues in Baltimore that goes way beyond red vs blue ideology Quote: Again a mis characterization. I spoke of an incident in Providence where a suspect came in and shot one of the cops interrogating him, then jumped out the 3rd floor window and ran off downtown. When the cops caught him, they beat the ***outta him. In that specific case and in those under similar circumstances I am content to look the other way. People should be afraid to murder cops. How you turn that into the blanket statement of "he's ok with cops "getting even" with suspects and arrestees" is just wrong.
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