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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 12:32:12
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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intrinsically speaking, copper holds more value than gold.
lol. That's fine I'll trade you copper for gold any time.

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People assign value to gold
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and is only worth what the market dictates it to be
Welcome to a market economy where goods and services are priced based on the value people assign to them and are willing to pay. Where things like rarity, scarcity, and energy to obtain said goods factor into the price.

Isn't it nice to step outside your socialist mindset now and then?
Ooo, plays the "socialist" card, despite not knowing what a socialist mindset is, granted you've defected from your own country to a communist country.

Again, I score far more conservative than most people on this site, aside from the absolute loons.

However, the *monetary value* of gold is based almost entirely around whimsy and novelty, primarily as symbol of social status, and has little practical value. The primary value of gold has it's origins as a symbol of divinity - basically, novelty. But then *stupid* people are always willing to give the shiniest of things a higher *monetary value* than that which is practical.

Your argument was that Gold has value - at least on the basis it has more value than a human life. (inb4 Obama's not human) If we're going to use a pound by pound example based on monetary worth, Obama's managed to raise just over a billion dollars in campaign funds. Romney just shy of 1 billion dollars. Gold, on the other hand, only has limited value based on concepts of being marketable entirely for novelty purposes, and pound for pound, is worth less than Obama or Romney.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-02-24 12:34:40
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Bloodrose said: »
and has little practical value

I don't believe that is accurate.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-24 12:36:32
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To be fair, gold does have some very practical uses in technology as it's an excellent conductor, but somewhat whimsically it would probably have more use (and be better-used) in such a fashion, but it would be "worth less" in that capacity.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-24 12:40:36
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Bloodrose said: »
Again, I score far more conservative than most people on this site, aside from the absolute loons.

you score "canadian" which is so far below "absolute loon" it makes old calculators error.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-24 12:41:12
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don't take out your relationship issues on us, dude. buy her a diamond or no, we don't care.

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And for the record, she got a sapphire, because we both think they're way better-looking than boring old diamonds.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-24 12:49:24
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Although they've probably re-branded their name about a dozen times by now.

oh yeah...we're the Ancient Mystic Society of No Homers now
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-24 12:49:42
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Siren.Mosin said: »
don't take out your relationship issues on us, dude. buy her a diamond or no, we don't care.
I had a long response typed, but I think this one is better, lol.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-24 12:52:32
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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don't take out your relationship issues on us, dude. buy her a diamond or no, we don't care.
I had a long response typed, but I think this one is better, lol.

I'd like the long one, as his is sarcastic and the issue I addressed is a very real one.

Well, I wouldn't "like" it as you sort of come off as selfish an uncaring sometimes and I suspect it's something to the effect of "good for them for doing their job and setting themselves up for so long". But still.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-24 12:53:42
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Your argument was that Gold has value - at least on the basis it has more value than a human life.
Not only was that not my argument, but I never said that either.

If you love socialism so much go to North Korea, a shining beacon to the world of a socialist paradise.

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you've defected from your own country to a communist country.
Congratulations on saying the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing since Lordgrim.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-24 12:56:00
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Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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don't take out your relationship issues on us, dude. buy her a diamond or no, we don't care.
I had a long response typed, but I think this one is better, lol.

I'd like the long one, as his is sarcastic and the issue I addressed is a very real one.

Well, I wouldn't "like" it as you sort of come off as selfish an uncaring sometimes and I suspect it's something to the effect of "good for them for doing their job and setting themselves up for so long". But still.
Fair enough:

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No. I think placing value on arbitrary items is absolutely stupid. Also, subject to market manipulation because rarity/scarcity has jack ***to do with it.
The value placed on gold is designed to provide a universal method of exchange. Otherwise you're subject to barter rules in which you have to wait until someone else wants what you have or can provide.

Fiat currencies will never replace a universal method of exchange. In order to do so, you have to build an empire and dominate the globe with an unstoppable military and in the process kill millions of people who dare to question your authority.

Every country that has tried to do this has failed miserably and the U.S. is no exception.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-24 12:56:21
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
If you love socialism so much go to North Korea, a shining beacon to the world of a socialist paradise.

You and a few others like to say this. NK isn't socialist, it's a tyranical dictatorship. There are socialist economies in Europe very worth living in, but sadly I'm a slave to the American system, both through actions of myself and others. It is what it is.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-24 12:59:51
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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:00:29
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Ramyrez said: »
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This I do want:

ftfy.

I have to assume, based on the images and comments you frequently post, this is what you really crave.

I can't help you if you aren't a feminist

Once you become a feminist things start to make sense.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-02-24 13:03:07
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I can't get that to quote right, I give up.
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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:03:09
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Men do pay good money to be kicked in the balls no lie !
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 13:03:51
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Your argument was that Gold has value - at least on the basis it has more value than a human life.
Not only was that not my argument, but I never said that either.

If you love socialism so much go to North Korea, a shining beacon to the world of a socialist paradise.

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you've defected from your own country to a communist country.
Congratulations on saying the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing since Lordgrim.
North Korea is Communist/Totalitarianist/Marxist country, run by a dictator. What was that about the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing since Lordgrim? Oh right. That would be claiming how much I love socialism, when only certain aspects of socialist policy works. And the fact that I've advocated many conservative ideas over socialist ones.

Nothing I said is even remotely socialist. The truth is that gold doesn't have a whole lot of practical value, and is dictated primarily by whimsy of the "OOO SHINEY" crowd of a special brand of retards. Does it have practical value in electronics and technology as a conductive metal? Sure. But please, tell me why gold is so valuable outside of whimsical novelty, outside of the aforementioned conductive properties used in technology.

Or did you conveniently happen to forget this not but a page ago?

Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Obama money is much like Obama, for novelty purposes only. Does not have any real value.
So he's just like Gold plated Bender.
Gold holds value. Try again.
Which implies that Gold holds more value than a human life. Particularly a life that is worth over 1 billion dollars.
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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:04:47
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You got a lot of moxie for a Canadian !
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-02-24 13:06:40
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granted you've defected from your own country to a communist country.

serbia's never even been a part of a communist country.
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 13:07:19
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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granted you've defected from your own country to a communist country.

serbia's never even been a part of a communist country.
Fair point, I was wrong on that part, and apologize.
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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:07:55
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Let's get back to ice hockey this is dangerous territory talking of gold and communists !

The only real communists are Obama and his ilk !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-24 13:10:41
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Bloodrose said: »
I am wrong

ftfy

and we know you can't help it... what with you're debilitating handicap and all... <cough> canadian </cough>
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 13:12:40
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You got a lot of moxie for a Canadian !

There's a Canadian restaurant called "Moxie's"

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Moxie's Grill & Bar (formerly Moxie's Classic Grill and commonly known as Moxie's) is a Canadian restaurant chain operating in eight provinces.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-24 13:14:05
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Let's get back to ice hockey this is dangerous territory talking of gold and communists !

The only real communists are Obama and his ilk !

All I'm saying... is that if the ***ever really does hit the fan you'll be wishing you had a pound of toilet paper way more than a pound of gold...

But have no fear home slice, I'll trade you a roll of my toilet paper for a brick of your gold no problemo.
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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:14:21
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-24 13:15:40
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Bloodrose said: »
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granted you've defected from your own country to a communist country.

serbia's never even been a part of a communist country.
Fair point, I was wrong on that part, and apologize.

but seriously.... never apologize, never explain.
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 13:15:50
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That Simpson's moment that's more precious than gold.
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-24 13:16:12
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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granted you've defected from your own country to a communist country.

serbia's never even been a part of a communist country.
Fair point, I was wrong on that part, and apologize.

but seriously.... never apologize, never explain.
So... I should be American, or should I be Jetackuu?
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-24 13:16:38
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Since I know I'll get plenty of support for saying this...

I'm really growing tired of the blogs and pseudo-news articles on Huffington Post. I rarely read whatever the equivalent conservative site would be, but I fear it may be the same: really arrogant and self-important people trying to pretend their own navel-gazing deep thoughts are true for everyone or, worse still, that everyone should do as they do.

Telling people to stifle about their coming out stories or writing a sarcastic and condescending post about using your autistic kid to get out of social obligations... just ugh. I wouldn't care if this was on someone's LiveJournal or Blogspot or whatever the hell the kids use these days, but this notion of "news bloggers" has gone rather a bit too far, even if it is very much in the same tradition as the editorial page of the newspaper.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-24 13:16:57
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Here's a drawing of a cow:

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By fonewear 2015-02-24 13:16:59
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I don't know if Jet is American though... he might be a pinko commie !
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