Random Politics & Religion #00

Anyway, military life isn't for everyone, and I'm a prime example of why it's not.

US investigators believe that one of the shooters pledged to ISIS. I wonder if that's true or just to place the terrorism label on this event.

It's very easy to draw the conclusion that they were likely swayed by ISIS/terrorism, if not directly linked to ISIS. IIRC he went to Saudi Arabia and came back with his "wife"? I use quotation marks because -- at least in some articles I've read -- there seemed to be a question of if they were even married.

I mean, that's got all sorts of implications. I wouldn't jump to these conclusions with just anyone who met their wife in the Middle East and brought them back to the States, but when they've killed more than a dozen people it becomes a consideration.

One of the two people accused of killing 14 at a holiday party in California posted an online statement pledging allegiance to a leader of the Islamic State militant group, CNN reported on Friday, citing U.S. officials.

Tashfeen Malik, 27, and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, were killed in a shootout with police hours after the Wednesday massacre at the Inland Regional Center social services agency in San Bernardino, about 60 miles (100 km) east of Los Angeles. The attack was the deadliest mass shooting the United States has experienced in three years.

Malik, a Pakistani native who had been living in Saudi Arabia when she married Farook, posted an online statement of support for a leader of Islamic State on an account using a name other than her own, CNN said. The attack in San Bernardino appeared to be inspired by - but not directed by - the militant group.

The investigation has been focused on the motivation for the attack with officials including President Barack Obama and San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan saying it may have been motivated by extremist ideology.

The couple left behind a 6-month old daughter. Farook's brother-in-law, Farhan Khan, told NBC News he had begun legal proceedings to adopt the girl and was "very upset and angry" at Farook.

"You left your 6-month-old daughter," Khan said. "In this life some people cannot have kids. God gave you a gift of a daughter. And you left that kid behind ... What did you achieve?"

Twenty-one people were wounded in the attack, the worst gun violence in the nation since the December 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

Farook, a U.S. citizen born in Illinois, was the son of Pakistani immigrants, said Hussam Ayloush, head of the Los Angeles area chapter of the Muslim advocacy group Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Christian Nwadike, who worked with Farook for five years, told CBS that his co-worker had been different since he returned from Saudi Arabia.

"I think he married a terrorist," Nwadike said.

Investigators are reviewing the couples' computers and cellphones to see if they had browsed jihadist websites or had contact with militant groups, according to officials in Washington familiar with the investigation.

Police said the couple had two assault-style rifles, two semi-automatic handguns and 1,600 rounds of ammunition in their vehicle, with 12 pipe bombs found in their home.

A Muslim terrorist never made love to a male Chinese prostitute under a patriotically waving America flag under the Northern Lights in Alaska.!

Mad lib sir this is the internet everything is mad libs !

Don't worry about it Obama said ISIS is the JV team.

We will have them defeated by New Years Eve.

I get what you're saying and I sort of agree. I just think the degree to which it happens is more based on the person and not the system. If someone was already of a mind to be swayed by that kind of regimen, they would have got it elsewhere (and probably did previously). Sports teams, unions, coworkers, social clubs, etc.

The majority of people tend to band together with those around them. In this case the military just uses that to their -- and, honestly, our -- advantage.

The degree to which it occurs is up to the individual though. Which is why you see some people who are diehard and steadfast in the rhetoric, and others who go along with it and learn their role without letting it become them.

They've been saying the EU has been falling apart since the day it was founded, I dont really worry about it. Sure we will not become the United States of Europe, but the fundamentals of the EU are so old i dont see it likely that they would reverse the process. The Euro is a different story.

Mayor of LA basically saying we need to ban guns lolz.

Occupied earlier, but this was exactly what was on my mind. Nobody truly functions as an island and we're all products of an amalgamation of different peer groups that people experience throughout our lifetimes.


I hate to be a pessimist, but I think the Euro will fold, too. When it was introduced and during its application in '99/'00 my grandfather was extremely vocal about his apprehensions of Spain being drawn into the fold. He still has DM stashed in his house. My mother and her sisters are bracing themselves for the moment they will be eating crow after scoffing at his "paranoia" in the early 2000's.

The only way to stop a bad gun with a gun is to kill them before they kill you !

US investigators believe that one of the shooters pledged to ISIS. I wonder if that's true or just to place the terrorism label on this event.

Judging by the arsenal they had collected I would guess that they had prepared for an act of terrorism but for some reason decided to make it personal instead.

Seeing as the attack was targeted to his workplace I don't think it can be called terrorism. Of course this won't stop pundits and politicians from labeling it just that.

Judging by the arsenal they had collected I would guess that they had prepared for an act of terrorism but for some reason decided to make it personal instead.

Seeing as the attack was targeted to his workplace I don't think it can be called terrorism. Of course this won't stop pundits and politicians from labeling it just that.

There is an easy way for future terrorists to clear up the confusion. Scream Allahu Akbar before killing infidels.

Or "no more dead babies." (edit: or "baby parts," or whatever else the sick *** said.)

Or "for the master race."

Or any one of thousands of others.

Radical Islam is a virus.

Just wait till the Atheist terrorist start killing people in the name of Science !

Newsflash people were killing each other long before religion ever was a thing. It is survival of the fittest. Part of human nature is violence.