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By fonewear 2014-09-26 14:25:55
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-26 14:26:17
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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You think a real man demeans a woman?

A real man is able to act like a *** grown up and not a child. A real man is above that petty *** and can handle himself with a sense of pride.

A real man doesn't mock someone for *** like that because he got his precious little feelings hurt.

God you're a joke Nausi.

Edit: Oh yeah... real men are just so afraid of fatties too! #1 fear for life!

Context: The video narrates that very fact in its introduction. #1 fear for men is going on a blind date with a girl that turns out to be fat. #1 fear for women is a blind date with a serial killer.

Right, real men sit there and get demeaned by women and don't say a word. They're suppose to just let women be *** to them and not say a word.

Sexist misandry ***!
Demeaned by a woman? She lied to you about being fat. The lie was exposed. It's not demeaning.

A real man would walk away in that situation and not stopp to the same level.

What you're referring to is a little ***. (just so you don't misunderstand or try to turn it around. the little *** is the guy in this topic that you describe)
Are you really suggesting that lying to someone isn't demeaning?

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"putting women in their place"
Seriously dude, you are beyond over the top at putting words in my mouth.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-09-26 14:28:22
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let go of that ego man, it isn't doing you any favors.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:28:43
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Seriously dude, you are beyond over the top at putting words in my mouth.

Again, you didn't read what I said and put it within context of the entire statement.

You're really good at that.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-26 14:29:18
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Ramyrez said: »
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So insulting someone's feelings is as bad or worse than lying to them about the #1 fear they have about blind dates?

If your number one fear is your date being fat, you were a terrible person before you ever knew she was fat or not.

Please read into the nuance of that sentence before you flip your ***.

You can be concerned your date is attractive or not. But if "fat" beats out "crazy", "druggie", "homicidal", or a multitude of other concerns that could actually have a serious negative impact on your life, you're a superficial ***.

There you go again.

Didn't you already agree that being attracted to your partner isn't superficial?

"Guess it's not convenient to my argument now." /toss

You just straight up ignored exactly what I wrote. You did not, in fact, read into the nuance of the sentence before subsequently flipping ***.

I said it's okay for it to be a consideration.

But if it's your primary consideration over a multitude of other factors (such as those described), you're walk feminine hygiene product.
It can be more than a consideration though. For some it's the most important thing there is and they wouldn't be able to be happy in a relationship without it. Some might see that as shallow but it just is what it is. Just like you might have humor as #1 or that guy needs an asian girl. It also just might be things we think we want until we actually get it lol... life's a tricky ***.

In any case it's not wrong to make that a priority even if it is superficial. People want what they want and you can't force someone to do something they don't want to it won't turn out good for anyone that way.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:29:26
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Are you really suggesting that lying to someone isn't demeaning?

I'll grant you that it's probably perceived as demeaning to someone with your particular subset of personality disorders.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-26 14:29:49
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
That is not my #1 fear!

what is?

zombies? robots? robot zombies? the second coming?

In Nausi's case, it might be the horror of possibly cultivating one of those stinky, platonic relationship thingies with the opposite sex, or it seems that way.

WHAT?!? A mutual appreciation for people of the opposite sex without the act of sex?!? THAT'S NUTS!
Oh oh oh, do me next Zah!

Errr...You're afraid of that new breed of spider they found in Hutto that look like Black Widows but aren't!

It's spider smackin' season, and I've got a hankerin' for spider smackin'!
I get these all the time!



Naw, I was looking for my greatest fear.

Something like:
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:32:40
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People want what they want and you can't force someone to do something they don't want to it won't turn out good for anyone that way.

I will concede this point to you at the very least.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-26 14:33:17
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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You think a real man demeans a woman?

A real man is able to act like a *** grown up and not a child. A real man is above that petty *** and can handle himself with a sense of pride.

A real man doesn't mock someone for *** like that because he got his precious little feelings hurt.

God you're a joke Nausi.

Edit: Oh yeah... real men are just so afraid of fatties too! #1 fear for life!

Context: The video narrates that very fact in its introduction. #1 fear for men is going on a blind date with a girl that turns out to be fat. #1 fear for women is a blind date with a serial killer.

Right, real men sit there and get demeaned by women and don't say a word. They're suppose to just let women be *** to them and not say a word.

Sexist misandry ***!
Demeaned by a woman? She lied to you about being fat. The lie was exposed. It's not demeaning.

A real man would walk away in that situation and not stoop to the same level.

What you're referring to is a little ***. (just so you don't misunderstand or try to turn it around. the little *** is the guy in this topic that you describe)
Are you really suggesting that lying to someone isn't demeaning?
Good luck with that Nausi.
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By fonewear 2014-09-26 14:33:25
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My greatest fear:

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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:33:48
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Coincidentally, that fear is up there for me too. If you've seen Peter's closet of records in Dodgeball, that's about how I deal with my "keepers".
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:34:15
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fonewear said: »
My greatest fear:


None of us saw that coming...

<_<;
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By fonewear 2014-09-26 14:34:51
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Oh yea looks don't matter ask this guy:

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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-09-26 14:36:28
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
No but why do I have to sit back and quietly take someone being a *** to me? Is that what a real "man" does?
Wow, really?

Most times someone being a *** is either unintentional, temporary, or otherwise not even worth the effort of responding to.

If it is a behavior that is repeated or systemic, *that's* a situation which would elicit some sort of response.

And yes, that's what a real "man" does. They don't act like a teenage boy.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:37:21
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Oh yea looks don't matter ask this guy:


Ohhh. Brian!

Haven't seen him since the YTMND days of 06-07.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-26 14:39:17
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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That is not my #1 fear!

what is?

zombies? robots? robot zombies? the second coming?

In Nausi's case, it might be the horror of possibly cultivating one of those stinky, platonic relationship thingies with the opposite sex, or it seems that way.

WHAT?!? A mutual appreciation for people of the opposite sex without the act of sex?!? THAT'S NUTS!

Zahrah, I have many platonic female friends. None of them think I'm a Mysogynist I promise. Nearly all of them know what the word means too, I promise.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:40:31
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Also, let's be honest. We all know this is my greatest fear and hope.

Awaiting this.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-09-26 14:40:56
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
None of them think I'm a Mysogynist I promise

if you had to pose the question to them, chances are you are.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-26 14:41:33
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Ramyrez said: »
Also, let's be honest. We all know this is my greatest fear and hope.

Awaiting this.
What, an iPhone?
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:42:48
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
That is not my #1 fear!

what is?

zombies? robots? robot zombies? the second coming?

In Nausi's case, it might be the horror of possibly cultivating one of those stinky, platonic relationship thingies with the opposite sex, or it seems that way.

WHAT?!? A mutual appreciation for people of the opposite sex without the act of sex?!? THAT'S NUTS!

Zahrah, I have many platonic female friends. None of them think I'm a Mysogynist I promise. Nearly all of them know what the word means too, I promise.

Let me guess. You also have plenty of black friends, so you can't be a racist. Right?
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:43:01
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Also, let's be honest. We all know this is my greatest fear and hope.

Awaiting this.
What, an iPhone?

(/w\)
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-26 14:46:30
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Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Also, let's be honest. We all know this is my greatest fear and hope.

Awaiting this.
What, an iPhone?

(/w\)
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-09-26 14:47:58
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Ramyrez said: »
It's just staggering to me sometimes the amount of people that think it's okay to treat someone like dog ***because they're not physically attractive to them.

And looks do play too big of a role in our culture. If you talk to someone online but have never seen a picture of them, you connect in every way, you share a sense of humor, same hobbies, etc.

And then you meet and you find that person physically unattractive...for so many people, that's it. That's a deal breaker.

But if they're attractive, but instead have some other "flaw" when it comes to compatibility -- even if it's major -- for so many people they can "see past" that because they give you a ***/get you wet.

I fail to comprehend this mindset.
This was a couple pages ago, but it's a simple answer.

Men seek out fertility in women. Fertility is represented by their phenotype (outward appearance). Men seek out their own personal definition of fertility (See: influential women in their life), and women that present certain biochemical cues for fertility. Women, of similar attractiveness, who are close to their period, are more attractive than those women that are not, as an example.

Women seek out stability in men. A man who exudes their [women] definition of masculinity and stability is sought after. Stability can be represented in a few ways (See: influential men in their life), but is usually brought down to size, strength, and social status. This is why many women have issues with dating a man that is smaller than them.

This is also why men date younger and women date older, on average. Men seek out younger, more fertile mates, while women seek out stronger, more well-established mates.

These things are major deciding factors in mate selection, even now. Attractiveness is incredibly important, and influences our actions on a subconscious level. It is worth noting though that attractiveness has a wide degree of variance from person to person.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-26 14:50:17
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You're starting to sound a bit like Sav there Tikal...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-26 14:50:27
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ramyrez said: »
It's just staggering to me sometimes the amount of people that think it's okay to treat someone like dog ***because they're not physically attractive to them.

And looks do play too big of a role in our culture. If you talk to someone online but have never seen a picture of them, you connect in every way, you share a sense of humor, same hobbies, etc.

And then you meet and you find that person physically unattractive...for so many people, that's it. That's a deal breaker.

But if they're attractive, but instead have some other "flaw" when it comes to compatibility -- even if it's major -- for so many people they can "see past" that because they give you a ***/get you wet.

I fail to comprehend this mindset.
This was a couple pages ago, but it's a simple answer.

Men seek out fertility in women. Fertility is represented by their phenotype (outward appearance). Men seek out their own personal definition of fertility (See: influential women in their life), and women that present certain biochemical cues for fertility. Women, of similar attractiveness, who are close to their period, are more attractive than those women that are not, as an example.

Women seek out stability in men. A man who exudes their [women] definition of masculinity and stability is sought after. Stability can be represented in a few ways (See: influential men in their life), but is usually brought down to size, strength, and social status. This is why many women have issues with dating a man that is smaller than them.

This is also why men date younger and women date older, on average. Men seek out younger, more fertile mates, while women seek out stronger, more well-established mates.

These things are major deciding factors in mate selection, even now. Attractiveness is incredibly important. It is worth noting though that attractiveness has a wide degree of variance from person to person.
Careful bro, that's the outdated rape culture of the past you're preaching there.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-26 14:51:08
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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You think a real man demeans a woman?

A real man is able to act like a *** grown up and not a child. A real man is above that petty *** and can handle himself with a sense of pride.

A real man doesn't mock someone for *** like that because he got his precious little feelings hurt.

God you're a joke Nausi.

Edit: Oh yeah... real men are just so afraid of fatties too! #1 fear for life!

Context: The video narrates that very fact in its introduction. #1 fear for men is going on a blind date with a girl that turns out to be fat. #1 fear for women is a blind date with a serial killer.

Right, real men sit there and get demeaned by women and don't say a word. They're suppose to just let women be *** to them and not say a word.

Sexist misandry ***!
Demeaned by a woman? She lied to you about being fat. The lie was exposed. It's not demeaning.

A real man would walk away in that situation and not stoop to the same level.

What you're referring to is a little ***. (just so you don't misunderstand or try to turn it around. the little *** is the guy in this topic that you describe)
Are you really suggesting that lying to someone isn't demeaning?
Good luck with that Nausi.
(Good luck with that? What does that even mean?)

You wouldn't feel humiliated if you spent hours / days investigating and developing an online connection with a girl you thought was a 10 only to find out she was lying to you and was actually a 1?

Of course you would.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:52:14
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
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It's just staggering to me sometimes the amount of people that think it's okay to treat someone like dog ***because they're not physically attractive to them.

And looks do play too big of a role in our culture. If you talk to someone online but have never seen a picture of them, you connect in every way, you share a sense of humor, same hobbies, etc.

And then you meet and you find that person physically unattractive...for so many people, that's it. That's a deal breaker.

But if they're attractive, but instead have some other "flaw" when it comes to compatibility -- even if it's major -- for so many people they can "see past" that because they give you a ***/get you wet.

I fail to comprehend this mindset.
This was a couple pages ago, but it's a simple answer.

Men seek out fertility in women. Fertility is represented by their phenotype (outward appearance). Men seek out their own personal definition of fertility (See: influential women in their life), and women that present certain biochemical cues for fertility. Women, of similar attractiveness, who are close to their period, are more attractive than those women that are not, as an example.

Women seek out stability in men. A man who exudes their [women] definition of masculinity and stability is sought after. Stability can be represented in a few ways (See: influential men in their life), but is usually brought down to size, strength, and social status. This is why many women have issues with dating a man that is smaller than them.

This is also why men date younger and women date older, on average. Men seek out younger, more fertile mates, while women seek out stronger, more well-established mates.

These things are major deciding factors in mate selection, even now. Attractiveness is incredibly important. It is worth noting though that attractiveness has a wide degree of variance from person to person.

You're not saying anything I don't know.

But knowing all those things, I still can't imagine being with a *** idiot just because she's hot. If she's an idiot, then what's the point in mating with her?

No, sorry. I get where you're coming from and I understand the biological influence, but I don't believe that's all there is to it.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-26 14:53:15
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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You think a real man demeans a woman?

A real man is able to act like a *** grown up and not a child. A real man is above that petty *** and can handle himself with a sense of pride.

A real man doesn't mock someone for *** like that because he got his precious little feelings hurt.

God you're a joke Nausi.

Edit: Oh yeah... real men are just so afraid of fatties too! #1 fear for life!

Context: The video narrates that very fact in its introduction. #1 fear for men is going on a blind date with a girl that turns out to be fat. #1 fear for women is a blind date with a serial killer.

Right, real men sit there and get demeaned by women and don't say a word. They're suppose to just let women be *** to them and not say a word.

Sexist misandry ***!
Demeaned by a woman? She lied to you about being fat. The lie was exposed. It's not demeaning.

A real man would walk away in that situation and not stoop to the same level.

What you're referring to is a little ***. (just so you don't misunderstand or try to turn it around. the little *** is the guy in this topic that you describe)
Are you really suggesting that lying to someone isn't demeaning?
Good luck with that Nausi.
(Good luck with that? What does that even mean?)

You wouldn't feel humiliated if you spent hours / days investigating and developing an online connection with a girl you thought was a 10 only to find out she was lying to you and was actually a 1?

Of course you would.

Humiliated? Really? You'd be humiliated? Even when she's the "1/10" and you're the (what you apparently at least think of yourself) 8-10/10 Alpha?

Your poor, fragile ego...

So tell me, tender one. How the hell do you survive this forum, let alone real life?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-09-26 14:55:14
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
You wouldn't feel humiliated if you spent hours / days investigating and developing an online connection with a girl you thought was a 10 only to find out she was lying to you and was actually a 1?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-09-26 14:55:15
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Ramyrez said: »
You're not saying anything I don't know.

But knowing all those things, I still can't imagine being with a *** idiot just because she's hot. If she's an idiot, then what's the point in mating with her?

No, sorry. I get where you're coming from and I understand the biological influence, but I don't believe that's all there is to it.
Of course not, but it's a deciding factor that goes beyond consciousness, and explains why people make those choices within a pretty accurate spectrum.
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