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U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-16 00:56:20
Finally caught a news story on the thing I think you guys were talking about pages ago.
Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Quote: A group of self-described revolutionary-style patriots with a million mobilized militia members are heading to downtown Washington, D.C., this week to bring a simple message to political leadership, from President Obama to House Speaker John Boehner: Get out.
They’re called the Operation American Spring — and they’re vowing to oust the likes of Mr. Obama, Mr. Boehner, Attorney General Eric Holder, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Sen. Mitch McConnell, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Raw Story reported.
“We are calling for [their] removal … as a start toward constitutional restoration,” said retired Army Col. Harry Riley, the leader of the group, Raw Story reported. “They have all abandoned the U.S. Constitution, are unworthy to be retained in a position that calls for servant status.”
The aim of the group, too, is to influence those politicos who aren’t targeted for ouster to “sponsor and pass very constitutionally crafted state legislation to dissolve the size, powers, scope and spending of the U.S. government by two-thirds,” the media outlet reported.
The group expects between 10 million and 30 million similarly thinking Americans to meet them in the capital on Friday for a rally that’s being billed as a sort of “Arab Spring” for Americans.
Meanwhile, the group is holding another event on the same day in Bunerkville, Nev., near cattle rancher Cliven Bundy’s property and in support of his stand-off with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing fees.
The Friday event was promoted by Tea Party Nation.
Supposed to happen today on Friday May, 16th.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-16 01:02:36
Can't wait to see their turnout. I'm guessing less than 100 total.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-16 01:06:17
30 million people, really? They will be lucky to get a few thousand. And they will go home with nothing to show for it.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-16 21:57:07
Looks like you were right Zicdeh, they had about 150 people.
Only 9,999,850 off projections.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-05-16 22:02:07
Do I see someone flying an American Flag upside down while not in a state of distress/attack ? Where is the police!!!!???
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-16 22:18:51
Do I see someone flying an American Flag upside down while not in a state of distress/attack ? Where is the police!!!!???
WURT ABURT THUR FRURDURMS URNDUR URTTURCK?! URMURICUR!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-16 22:19:50
Looks like you were right Zicdeh, they had about 150 people.
Only 9,999,850 off projections. That looks like more than 150 people.
Unless there is nobody to the left, right, or behind the cameraman....
Knowing Vic, he will say "of course not" like he was there protesting for the sake of protesting....
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-16 22:21:21
Only if you forget that Tea Party psychos only count for two-thirds of a person a head.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-05-16 22:22:40
as expected, only a bunch of old morons showed up and the signs aren't even funny.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-05-16 22:24:47
Can't wait to see their turnout. I'm guessing less than 100 total. Looks like you were right Zicdeh, they had about 150 people.
Math revelation of the day: 150 < 100
But seriously, it takes a major case of delusion to project an estimated 10 million person turnout and end up with a 3-digit number. To be fair, if a Nickelback concert can average 11,000 people in attendance, projecting anything lower than that would just be depressing.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-16 22:29:10
Bob Barker Rules ***. Closest without going over is correct! Next time Bid 101.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-16 22:31:09
I only said that because he was miles closer than I was, I gave them 1000+. And, yes, I went over, so he wins. However, the showcase showdown is yet to come!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-05-16 22:33:40
What we have here is another case where the crazies are the only ones who care enough to be heard. It's the same problem the Tea Party, feminists, animal rights activists, etc. all have in common.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-05-16 22:41:17
What we have here is another case where the crazies are the only ones who care enough to be heard. It's the same problem the Tea Party, feminists, animal rights activists, etc. all have in common.
It's because they have delusions of grandeur. They aim for the stars and barely get off their sofa. They need to dial back the crazy and stop with the fire and brimstone and focus on an actual real and attainable goal.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-05-20 21:43:21
Aaaaand, back on topic.
April Ties For Hottest Ever On Record For The Globe - Huffington post, a known liberal site
But this meteorology. Posted in the digital world's equivalent of 64 point type of course, but a fact.
Quote: WASHINGTON (AP) — Once again, the world hit record heat levels. The average global temperature last month tied the hottest April on record four years ago.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Tuesday say last month's average temperature was 58.1 degrees Fahrenheit (14.5 degrees Celsius). That was 1.39 degrees F (0.77 C) warmer than the average last century.
The last time the globe's monthly temperature was cooler than normal was February 1985.
NOAA scientist Jessica Blunden said April's heat was driven especially by Siberia and Eurasia. She said the United States and Canada were the few exceptions. Canada was a bit cooler than normal and the United States was a tad warmer than normal.
That's GLOBAL. As in the whole planet. Not some isolated heat wave somewhere.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-20 22:32:12
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-20 22:46:52
1. Call someone Racist
2. ???
3. Argument won.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-20 22:49:00
1. Call someone Racist
2. ???
3. Argument won.
1. Say something racist.
2. Play the victim card.
3. Repeat.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-05-20 23:41:00
I saw that Pleebo. Its filed under "WTF" and "I never knew" both.
By Kyler 2014-05-20 23:55:56
Two words, sample size. End argument.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-21 00:00:10
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By daemun 2014-05-21 00:33:11
500 year cycles is all I have to add.
I also will not read anything prior to this page or past the first.
Carpe diem
EDIT: Didn't we also just experience (at least in the US) the coldest winter in recorded history?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-21 01:06:19
Terse, superficial statements will surely be instrumental in solving this crisis.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-05-21 01:26:57
In Europe it was one of the warmest winters. In Denmark we didn't have snow on the ground for more than 3 days at a time. Compared with last year where we had snow constantly from October to May.
What does that mean? The world doesn't revolve around the US.
Edit:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/03/19/global-climate-report-winter/6606079/
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-21 01:32:44
What does that mean? The world doesn't revolve around the US.
How many more Nimitz Class aircraft carriers do we have to field before people stop saying that!?
By Altimaomega 2014-05-21 01:39:26
yay this thread again! The best they can come up with is 1.3 degree warmer, using more than likely fudged data....
Could use some of that global warming here in MI. Been well below average temp all spring. But hey that's just the weather right!
Edit: I mean Climate Change, err Global Disruption? Or was Climate Chaos the new cool thing?
No wait kerry is just calling it WMD now, if its like a terrorist we HAVE to fight it right?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-21 01:45:54
We already know you have no handle on these concepts. Your constant reminders are not necessary.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-21 01:55:24
It may be colder in the U.S. than on average, but isn't most of the country suffering historically unprecedented droughts? I know that's what they're barking about here in SoCal, we use pilfered water anyway though. Heard some parts of Texas getting bent over the couch too.
I've heard the droughts compared to the Dust Bowl... but the Dust Bowl wasn't just droughts, it was also a plethora of topsoil issues caused by bad farming practices, so I don't think it's a worthwhile comparison, just an attempt at revving the engine of the fear machine.
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By Altimaomega 2014-05-21 01:59:49
We already know you have no handle on these concepts. Your constant reminders are not necessary.
The evidence you have presented has convinced me of the global chaos THEORY.
(The·o·ry) noun \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\
a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation
b : an unproved assumption : conjecture
When some Solid FACTS are presented, I believe hell will freeze over.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/science/earth/climate-change-report.html?_r=3
A very extensive report, known as the National Climate Assessment, was released earlier this week. Nothing in the report is particularly surprising, but its presentation for the general public, here, is incredibly impressive. (Not all government website releases are a disaster!)
If hardcore technical reports aren't your thing, the highlights portion of the site breaks each section down as plainly as possible, is extensively cited, and makes no secret the level of uncertainty inherent in current findings. The site is really quite fantastic, and I would encourage anyone with genuine interest, skepticism, and/or curiosity in U.S. climate change to fuck around in it for a while. (Of course, if well-substantiated, easily digestible scientific communications aren't your thing, there's always this.)
Perhaps, the most poignant message arising from the report is summarized in this quote from the article:
Quote: The report pointed out that while the country as a whole still had no comprehensive climate legislation, many states and cities had begun to take steps to limit emissions and to adapt to climatic changes that can no longer be avoided. But the report found that these efforts were inadequate. I don't really consider myself a policy person so... what do?
Edit: Also of note is the high diversity of those involved. Largely scientists, of course, but representative of a wide swath of interests, including some oil companies.
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