I'm not even a PLD, but I got excited when I saw these. Depending on what PLD's are using for AA's and DM II's, particularly on Difficult mode or higher, these may be a welcome addition for EV's Arrogance Incarnate.
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I'm not even a PLD, but I got excited when I saw these. Depending on what PLD's are using for AA's and DM II's, particularly on Difficult mode or higher, these may be a welcome addition for EV's Arrogance Incarnate.
Such a silly name. I think of a scuffle as something that happens between two fourth-graders behind the cafeteria, not a life-or-death struggle with an Elvaan demon-woman.
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Gonna go out on a limb and just assume these drop from Ouryu fight
Shiva.Onorgul said: » Such a silly name. I think of a scuffle as something that happens between two fourth-graders behind the cafeteria, not a life-or-death struggle with an Elvaan demon-woman. Logic compels me to remark that she's supposed to be an Ark Angel. Experience causes me to agree with your assessment. Been a while since I did AA EV, was the TP move long enough to be able to determine it is AI and then swap in a breath set? Could always just swap in a breath set on any TP move considering the danger of AI compared to anything else she does.
Now you don't have to bring a SMN on Difficult mode?
SeekerStar said: » Shiva.Onorgul said: » Such a silly name. I think of a scuffle as something that happens between two fourth-graders behind the cafeteria, not a life-or-death struggle with an Elvaan demon-woman. Logic compels me to remark that she's supposed to be an Ark Angel. Experience causes me to agree with your assessment. Asura.Calatilla said: » SeekerStar said: » Shiva.Onorgul said: » Such a silly name. I think of a scuffle as something that happens between two fourth-graders behind the cafeteria, not a life-or-death struggle with an Elvaan demon-woman. Logic compels me to remark that she's supposed to be an Ark Angel. Experience causes me to agree with your assessment. This lesson can also be learned in "The Prophecy", "Dogma" and "Constantine" movies. Cerberus.Tidis said: » Been a while since I did AA EV, was the TP move long enough to be able to determine it is AI and then swap in a breath set? Could always just swap in a breath set on any TP move considering the danger of AI compared to anything else she does. As far as I can tell, Arrogance Incarnate is instant - or at least too fast for you to manually swap into a -BDT set. As a WHM, I'm always grateful to get EV done and over with at the start of our DM II runs simply because she can be unpredictable with AI. /cry less challenge on VD EV and T5 marjami ravine
Sylph.Rasibian said: » /cry less challenge on VD EV and T5 marjami ravine Wait . . . it was a challenge? as pld tell me somting more challenging? kthx
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She's the Ark Angel of Arrogance, so.... duh?
>.> Elvaan = Arrogance Hume = Apathy Galka = Rage Tarutaru = Cowardice Mithra = Envy It's been a major theme for both RoZ and CoP. Sylph.Rasibian said: » /cry less challenge on VD EV and T5 marjami ravine oh well, my team is drilled to make me eat it like a man but thx for the advice i will sure try it /bow
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » Asura.Calatilla said: » SeekerStar said: » Shiva.Onorgul said: » Such a silly name. I think of a scuffle as something that happens between two fourth-graders behind the cafeteria, not a life-or-death struggle with an Elvaan demon-woman. Don't forget Imperius and various others from Diablo and subsequent games. Particularly Diablo III. Bismarck.Ihina said: » Now you don't have to bring a SMN on Difficult mode? Never had to. As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on
Can't for the life of me see how it was ever determined to be breath, as it very obviously wastes people if preceded by a Dominion Slash that dispels shell Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Arrogance Incarnate is a modified version of Spirits Within, which itself is classified as Breath damage. Offline
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Can't for the life of me see how it was ever determined to be breath, as it very obviously wastes people if preceded by a Dominion Slash that dispels shell Not sure this is accurate because I have gone from 30%bdt to 40%bdt and saw a significant reduction in dmg from arrogance incarnate. for example 2500 to 1600 in dmg. Cerberus.Avalon said: » Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Arrogance Incarnate is a modified version of Spirits Within, which itself is classified as Breath damage. Then it's a breath attack that behaves in no way like a breath attack, and for all intents and purposes should be treated like a magic attack Is there a basis for assuming it's a modified version of Spirits Within other than the animation? aeronx said: » Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Can't for the life of me see how it was ever determined to be breath, as it very obviously wastes people if preceded by a Dominion Slash that dispels shell Not sure this is accurate because I have gone from 30%bdt to 40%bdt and saw a significant reduction in dmg from arrogance incarnate. for example 2500 to 1600 in dmg. That reduction couldn't be the result of 10% BDT, even if it were being treated as a breath attack. It's much more likely that shell or scherzo wasn't up for one, and was reapplied later Leviathan.Kaparu said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Arrogance Incarnate is a modified version of Spirits Within, which itself is classified as Breath damage. Then it's a breath attack that behaves in no way like a breath attack, and for all intents and purposes should be treated like a magic attack Is there a basis for assuming it's a modified version of Spirits Within other than the animation? Part of the modification of Arrogance Incarnate is that it's I don't know the formula that's factored in when calculating -BDT and the effects of HQ Shellra V and Scherzo, so I can't throw numbers here at the moment. The fact that its damage can be split at all lends to it not being a breath attack. It would be the only attack of its type to do so
And are you sure it's conal? I could have sworn it was just a short-range AoE Leviathan.Kaparu said: » The fact that its damage can be split at all lends to it not being a breath attack. It would be the only attack of its type to do so And are you sure it's conal? I could have sworn it was just a short-range AoE BG says it's "5 feet", so I'm not sure what their description is trying to say, but from my personal experiences, I don't think I've ever seen the AI animation in a circular display. I could be wrong on that, though. What leads me to think it's conal is, during a recent DM II run, myself (WHM) and another RNG got too close to the PLD tanking EV. Arrogance Incarnate went off and I saw the rainbow animation 3x on all of us. Since it was difficult mode I was one-shot lol. Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Can't for the life of me see how it was ever determined to be breath, as it very obviously wastes people if preceded by a Dominion Slash that dispels shell I will have to test this out to find out for sure because its really the only thing you have to worry about in this fight and if like you say you can reduce it to ~1k then that is awesome. Cerberus.Avalon said: » Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Arrogance Incarnate is a modified version of Spirits Within, which itself is classified as Breath damage. Spirits within was classified as "spirit damage" like Chi-Blast. Odin.Jassik said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » Leviathan.Kaparu said: » As I've mentioned elsewhere, Arrogance Incarnate is not a breath attack. It's reduced and absorbed as a needles-esque(kinda-not-really) attack, and rarely does more than ~1k with Aegis on Arrogance Incarnate is a modified version of Spirits Within, which itself is classified as Breath damage. Spirits within was classified as "spirit damage" like Chi-Blast. Maybe the terminology is getting misconstrued. Its "class" of attack is considered Breath. |
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