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 Carbuncle.Worldshaker
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By Carbuncle.Worldshaker 2013-12-23 21:12:15
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I'm wondering how to gear for Victory Smite WS? This is what I have.

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By bigdave1978 2013-12-23 21:23:18
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use windbuffet belt
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By Bismarck.Davorin 2013-12-23 21:25:05
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MNK can't wear Iuitl.
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-23 21:52:27
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This is what I am currently using, probably better sets out there but this one is plenty decent.


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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-12-23 22:22:31
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pretty bad, yeah
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By Firedemon 2013-12-23 22:32:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
pretty bad, yeah

I like how you can criticize but not even give any advice, thumbs up.

That set is close to what i use Celoria, only difference is that I use Otronif Harness and Manibozho Brais.
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-23 22:55:15
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Firedemon said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
pretty bad, yeah

I like how you can criticize but not even give any advice, thumbs up.

That set is close to what i use Celoria, only difference is that I use Otronif Harness and Manibozho Brais.


Ken is pretty much a useless toolbag, so I ignore him. He rarely has anything of value to say.

As for the set I was thinking dropping the lion legs for DA otronif legs, and I still need to stop being lazy and finish WotG for moonshade
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-12-23 23:05:08
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your set is still bad though
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-23 23:47:32
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
your set is still bad though
you are still a useless toolbag with little to no valued input
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By Bahamut.Darksouls 2013-12-24 00:18:37
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I think Rancor back might be better than Atheling since Vict smite can critical.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-12-24 00:22:19
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Your set genuinely is bad though, my presentation in saying so may come across as trolling, but quite simply, I just cba to put input in regards to corrections.

Not to mention with the way you presented the set, it implies this is a universal set, when you should have multiple VS sets for the given circumstance.

Inb4 still nothing of value to say. Another person, who isn't a retard, will tell you the same thing. And at that moment, you will realize what I said had value. They may even offer some (much needed) guidance, I just had no interest holding your hand.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-12-24 00:32:34
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...And a Happy New Year!
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-24 00:42:44
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Actually, you still have nothing of value to say, all you do is find ways to weakly attempt to insult people in nearly every post you see. First off I am not a mnk main, in fact I hate the job. Secondly I said to begin with there are better sets, instead of stating anything of value, you instead act like an immature child with nothing but criticism and nothing constructive. I.E. showing us some sets. Yes the set I use is universal, I use it in all situations. Again I hate mnk. I don't care about the job in the least the only reason I have it leveled, skilled and geared is because unfortunately the job is overly valued.

Now while you run your mouth about "holding my hand," let's leave it as I would never want an immature disrespectful "troll" (in quotes since I hate the term, I prefer asshat, *** or douchebag. I only used the term because thats how you defined the way you came off.) The OP was asking about his set. While my set is not the best in all situations it is, with all respect towards your-trollness, a universal set and a definite upgrade from what the OP is using without becoming overly intrusive to gear hunting.

When I state I am not using the best set, that means ideally, that there are obviously better sets but this one is a good one to use while people gear hunt for better gear.

Now back to the OP without anymore acknowledgement to the asshat "troll" for the remainder of the thread.

The WS set I have works. It isn't the best, like I said. However, between the TP set's (depending on buffs my gear varies slightly) and the VS set I showed I do very well in my DPS. Normally holding hate and end up the highest DPS in my ls. (In before this NAC says ***about my ls) My ls is an egls, it is one of the more desired ls to be in and we rarely if ever lose runs. Not saying it doesn't happen, but there is always something bound to happen at some point. However, the builds I use are more than functional, they work, they DPS, they -pdt, they -mdt, they eva, they cirt etc, and I always use the same VS build because I don't care enough about mnk to fill up my inventory on a job I don't like.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-12-24 00:55:28
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Putting into consideration the gear the OP has already obtained, showing him optimal sets wouldn't have been too much of a strain for him.

So instead of just copy/paste optimal sets from the MNK guide in effective efforts to help him, you post your own trashy set, and lable it decent. You then go on to say MNK isn't your main, and infact you hate the job.

You helped the OP just as much as I did, the only difference is I didn't try.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-12-24 01:00:54
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
So instead of just copy/paste optimal sets from the MNK guide in effective efforts to help him, you post your own trashy set, and lable it decent. You then go on to say MNK isn't your main, and infact you hate the job.
It's hard to not agree with this point. That's what the guide is for.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-12-24 01:03:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
You helped the OP just as much as I did, the only difference is I didn't try.

This quote definitely has some philosophical beauty about it.
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By Cerberus.Dakrone 2013-12-24 01:05:11
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You gears may need some adjustments, i somewhat agree to kenrusai even though i dislike the way he approach to criticized your set.

You may need quite the number of set depending on buffs or which content you are using VS'ing in, i'm assuming delve where you capp atk.

I'm just on my phone atm so not able to make the set, but here's what you might want to adjust to your set:


-Impetus Up!
Moonshade Earring- AUG: 4atk 25TP
Brutal Earring
Otronif Hands/Legs/Feet should be AUG+2 Crit
Tantra Body +2(AF3+2)
Tjurkurrpa Medal/Nefarious Necklace (If Tjurk, then Rancor Mantle.)
Rancorous Mantle/Atheling Mantle
Windbuffet Belt
Pyrosoul Ring - Seems to show better result from spreadsheets i've seen.


Shijin tends to do better than victory smite when impetus isn't up.
You may want to look into the iiPunch Monk thread for further
details. And posting another mnk thread about VS is kinda pointless when all the resources you need are on the iiPunch mnk thread.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-12-24 01:13:13
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Sorta off-topic: Do we have estimates on AA AGI yet? I tend to use Manibozho legs on higher level stuff since I figure the DEX is contributing to critical hit rate. With Manibozho I sit at 192 DEX in my standard Impetus up set before BRD AF3+2 set bonus/Sushi, etc and I think that's a good point to swap to Manibozho. That'll move up to 199 DEX before buffs whenever I get AF119 hands but that's a little low on my priority list.
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By Carbuncle.Worldshaker 2013-12-24 06:18:17
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Sorry about new post, thanks!

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You gears may need some adjustments, i somewhat agree to kenrusai even though i dislike the way he approach to criticized your set.

You may need quite the number of set depending on buffs or which content you are using VS'ing in, i'm assuming delve where you capp atk.

I'm just on my phone atm so not able to make the set, but here's what you might want to adjust to your set:


-Impetus Up!
Moonshade Earring- AUG: 4atk 25TP
Brutal Earring
Otronif Hands/Legs/Feet should be AUG+2 Crit
Tantra Body +2(AF3+2)
Tjurkurrpa Medal/Nefarious Necklace (If Tjurk, then Rancor Mantle.)
Rancorous Mantle/Atheling Mantle
Windbuffet Belt
Pyrosoul Ring - Seems to show better result from spreadsheets i've seen.


Shijin tends to do better than victory smite when impetus isn't up.
You may want to look into the iiPunch Monk thread for further
details. And posting another mnk thread about VS is kinda pointless when all the resources you need are on the iiPunch mnk thread.
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By Odin.Shuinam 2013-12-26 07:42:35
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By nyheen 2013-12-26 10:55:50
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
So instead of just copy/paste optimal sets from the MNK guide in effective efforts to help him, you post your own trashy set, and lable it decent. You then go on to say MNK isn't your main, and infact you hate the job.

the dude main could be a pup since this is talking about a victory smite build on General and not on mnk thread. just saying
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-12-26 11:02:18
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The Black Belt, Atheling Mantle and Honed Tathlum say otherwise. Or the Tantra Tathlum if you're referring to Celoria. Your post is a little hard to understand. Should be using Stringing Pummel on PUP anyway.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-12-26 11:06:25
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Be abit more perceptive, friend.

The OP has Black Belt in his set, although he didn't specify which job he requested knoweldge for (My guess would be he forgot?) it's a fair assumption that he is after MNK builds. Unless ofcourse you wish to take the OP for an idiot and think he believes PUP is on Black Belt.

MNK builds differ to PUPs obviously, but more so because the set changes with certain Monk abilities active, etc.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-12-26 12:41:16
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I'm going to suggest this set for accuracy dependent fights like the Arch Angel fights. Assuming you are doing Arch Angel, you probably don't have the 119 Anchorite peices. If you do, the gloves are a solid peice for VS.

Here are some items you can swap out if you don't have something listed here. I didn't list an alternative for Tantra Cyclas +2 because 1) Victory Smite during Impetus 2) They are so easy to get now that listing an alternative is a waste of time.
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As for the Manibozho peices, it should go without saying, but they should be augmented to Rank 15 STR path (10 str, 15 atk, 10 acc).
Otronif items should either be augmented with Crit > DA > Acc depending on how much time/money you are willing to spend getting Verdigras Stones (+2). It should also go without saying, but you don't equip Rancorous Mantle and Rancor Collar at the same time.

A few other alternatives, depending on your situation, include:
Buquwik Cape, Atheling Mantle, and Anchoret's Mantle
Wanion Belt - good for low-acc Shijin too
Potestas Bomblet - good for low-acc and low-acc Shijin too
Uk'uxkaj Cap - good for low-acc
Nefarious Collar - good with Rancorous Mantle if you don't have gorget

Also, these gorgets are just as good as light gorget:
Flame Gorget
Breeze Gorget
Thunder Gorget
Highly suggest Light or Flame though because those also work with Shijin Spiral (yay inventory)


Refer to The Monk Guide for the most ideal sets. Doesn't really have anything useful outside the best sets, but it's still a good reference.
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By nyheen 2013-12-28 10:57:50
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Should be using Stringing Pummel on PUP anyway.

victory smite would be kinda better then Stringing Pummel. VS>>Tactical Switch>>VS= light sc
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-12-28 12:18:45
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nyheen said: »
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Should be using Stringing Pummel on PUP anyway.

victory smite would be kinda better then Stringing Pummel. VS>>Tactical Switch>>VS= light sc

For skillchaining, yes, but for raw damage when your JA's are down...
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