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 Bismarck.Inference
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-07-01 00:27:11
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
They are not meant for higher tier mobs

I wish the 50 Kupipi at every WKR shared this train of thought.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-01 00:35:42
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Ferreous Coffin also seems to have an innate 2mp refresh. Not sure if he happens to gain the added effect benefit of Mjollnir yet.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2014-07-01 00:36:28
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I'm more than happy with Trust AI, especially considering Automaton AI still has a ton of issues(mostly with enfeebling, curing, and general MP management).
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-01 01:42:30
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Man Noillurie is a damn beast. She got to 1700 TP, did sekkanoki and meditate. Then she proceeded to do Yukikaze > Gekko > Kasha > Kaiten > Kaiten, SCing the whole time.

It's happened 3 times now. Loving her AI.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-01 02:00:07
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Siren.Kentai said: »
Man Noillurie is a damn beast. She got to 1700 TP, did sekkanoki and meditate. Then she proceeded to do Yukikaze > Gekko > Kasha > Kaiten > Kaiten, SCing the whole time.

It's happened 3 times now. Loving her AI.

That's certainly impressive... except what the hell were you fighting lol? If she did good damage nothing would survive that... but it was probably like 10k total damage right X_X? Everything I use/used her for, she doesn't even get 1000 tp before I kill it, let alone even attempt to skillchain.

She's possibly the best trust right now though, well DD trust, that is.
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-01 02:03:20
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Siren.Kentai said: »
Man Noillurie is a damn beast. She got to 1700 TP, did sekkanoki and meditate. Then she proceeded to do Yukikaze > Gekko > Kasha > Kaiten > Kaiten, SCing the whole time.

It's happened 3 times now. Loving her AI.

That's certainly impressive... except what the hell were you fighting lol? If she did good damage nothing would survive that... but it was probably like 10k total damage right X_X?

She's possibly the best trust right now though, well DD trust, that is.

Well I was level 64 fighting robber crabs in Kuftal Tunnel. I don't know why but the relic weaponskill damage from these trusts is severly gimped. Hopefully they'll patch that. Tachi: Kaiten was doing 250-350 dmg on the robber crabs at lv 64. My fellow npc with GKT topped that damage with Tachi: Koki. So yeah, that's how it survived, each ws from her only did 200-400 damage and she started when it was at close to 100% HP.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-01 02:07:13
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Well for one, it's odd that they can use a relic ws below 75 in the first place, so that's saying something lol. Someone posted a SS of najelith using sidewinder at like level 20. I suppose their ws's are not the traditional ones, or they have special conditions or w/e that make them severely underwhelming.

But yeah their ws's are like ready for bst, kinda pathetic tbh... actually might even be worse... if that's possible...
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-01 02:18:38
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Well for one, it's odd that they can use a relic ws below 75 in the first place, so that's saying something lol. Someone posted a SS of najelith using sidewinder at like level 20. I suppose their ws's are not the traditional ones, or they have special conditions or w/e that make them severely underwhelming.

But yeah their ws's are like ready for bst, kinda pathetic tbh... actually might even be worse... if that's possible...

Yeah I remember posting that Najelith uses Sidewinder that early. Pretty much all of her ranged weapon skills outdo Elivira's right now. I hope that changes since she looks so damn cool.

As for the relic sam trust, Ayame seems to outdamage her. I didn't parse anything but even when using the same weaponskill, Ayame would pull ahead by 100 damage or so. Not sure what's going on with the relic trusts lol.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-07-01 03:33:53
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Lhu
BST/WAR, single wields Guttler with a shield and uses no pets

Abilities: Berserk, Feral Howl

Weaponskills: Onslaught, Rampage, Decimation, Spinning Axe

Quirks: Uses Feral Howl to interrupt TP moves, uses Berserk seemingly on cooldown. Weaponskills are just as bad as any other trust and Onslaught seems to be the least frequent WS despite being the best one. Her Guttler doesn't seem to proc as a player's would (neither the Choke nor the extra damage)
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By Ragnarok.Sharain 2014-07-01 04:59:28
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
While they aren't as bad as they used to be they're still extremely slow at building tp. And while they attempt to skillchain, alot the time depending on which ones you use, they will ws at the same time and negate the very skillchain they were saving up for...

It's pretty neat when they actually get it right and do a 3 chain but it's a little on the rare side.

Also, every whm has glaring flaws... pretty obnoxious. A WHM who doesn't haste? A whm who doesn't pro/shell? A whm who will stand there and let you die occasionally lol? A whm who pretends to be a rdm?

Can't there be one good one? With auto-refresh, who has half of an intelligent AI... And the bards, while usually pretty decent, having to use both just so end up with the 2 songs you actually want is kinda lame. They worry too much about paeon/ballad. As mentioned a few times, they should have settings... or at least some functionality.
I want a way to tell Ulmia that even though I use ranged ws, I'm MELEEING for tp, I don't want prelude! She actually sings marches for the whole party (= other trusts) and then pianissimos me prelude, and sometimes minuet 5. :(

Also someone teach Ayame not to ws when mob is clearly out of range. >.> If I have tp on engage, she uses hasso and ws's immediately, whether the mob is close enough or not.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-07-01 05:01:20
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A Gambit system for trusts in general would be marvelous. Being able to tell Cherukiki it's ok to haste when she's under 80% MP, Ulmia to not use ballad, joachim to only use min/mad, etc. would be so *** amazing.
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By Leviathan.Syagin 2014-07-01 21:56:37
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Lhu
BST/WAR, single wields Guttler with a shield and uses no pets

Abilities: Berserk, Feral Howl

Weaponskills: Onslaught, Rampage, Decimation, Spinning Axe

Quirks: Uses Feral Howl to interrupt TP moves, uses Berserk seemingly on cooldown. Weaponskills are just as bad as any other trust and Onslaught seems to be the least frequent WS despite being the best one. Her Guttler doesn't seem to proc as a player's would (neither the Choke nor the extra damage)
Lhu's best WS thus far 2150 rampage
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By Leviathan.Matteh 2014-07-01 22:56:36
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They're fun to use in Campaign battle for the lulz is all i have to say.
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-02 22:00:01
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The new samurai, Noillurie, just cast Cure III on me during an WKR when my HP got low. Definitely surprising. I guess she's /whm or /rdm lol.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-07-02 22:33:01
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/PLD, most of the san d'orian generals are
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-02 22:49:46
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That would make sense, since they were small heals. I saw her doing Cure III and Cure II at ilevel 119. Very cool still.

Just noticed she has auto-refresh as well. Pretty conclusive that she's SAM/PLD.
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By Bismarck.Herzins 2014-07-07 19:20:10
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Leviathan.Darkcloudx said: »
Cipher: Elivira
Shenni in Bastok Markets [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Noillurie
Shixo in Southern San d'Oria [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Lhu
Shuvo in Windurst Waters [S] (G-7)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: F. Coffin
500 Sparks of Eminence


How do you get these? I have talked to these NPCs and they don't give me an option to buy?
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2014-07-07 19:45:40
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Bismarck.Herzins said: »
Leviathan.Darkcloudx said: »
Cipher: Elivira
Shenni in Bastok Markets [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Noillurie
Shixo in Southern San d'Oria [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Lhu
Shuvo in Windurst Waters [S] (G-7)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: F. Coffin
500 Sparks of Eminence


How do you get these? I have talked to these NPCs and they don't give me an option to buy?

YA DONE SON. I think its over.
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By Fenrir.Nitenichi 2014-07-07 19:58:58
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Perhaps there's other stuff you need to do but you can still buy
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-07-08 16:03:00
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Looks like were getting Mumor and her sidekick


http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/July_2014_Version_Update_Changes

im assuming this either for a coming login or sunbreeze is on its way? interesting note the NM version of Mumor is Blm/Dnc
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-08 18:01:02
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Leviathan.Krysten said: »
Looks like were getting Mumor and her sidekick


http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/July_2014_Version_Update_Changes

im assuming this either for a coming login or sunbreeze is on its way? interesting note the NM version of Mumor is Blm/Dnc
Noticed this at the end here:
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Magical Maps

Map of Temple of Uggalepih
Map of Ve'Lugannon Palace
Map of Sea Serpent Grotto
Map of Labyrinth of Onzozo
I guess this means these will be purchasable soon too?

Damn after I spent the time to get the coffers like the good old days. Well at least I can be proud of stumbling upon the Den of Rancor one, lol.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2014-07-08 20:22:13
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
A Gambit system for trusts in general would be marvelous. Being able to tell Cherukiki it's ok to haste when she's under 80% MP, Ulmia to not use ballad, joachim to only use min/mad, etc. would be so *** amazing.

At the very least, there should be commands to make them stay or follow, so you could at least keep your mages/rangers out of danger.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2014-07-08 20:26:34
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Did anyone find out if we can get Star Sybil yet?
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By Shiva.Moogleking 2014-07-08 20:29:07
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Did anyone find out if we can get Star Sybil yet?
Repeat log in. 500 pts
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-07-09 05:27:32
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login dont start till thurs
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-11 00:03:07
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On a bad note, it seems like this last update killed Ayame. She keeps sitting on her TP, even whenever I get enough TP to weaponskill.

On a good note, I think they improved Elivira. It seems like every one of her ranged attacks "strikes true", dealing critical damage. She also appears to have snapshot on almost every ranged attack. Her sword hits give something like 12 TP, which is insane when you consider the sword's delay.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-07-11 01:20:47
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Ayame still works for me.
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-07-12 18:02:13
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Ah, figured out what I was doing wrong. I had to use a weaponskill first so Ayame knew which I was going to be using.
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-07-12 22:50:44
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they broke PUP too some reason he wont Shell me anymore lol
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-13 01:21:20
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Siren.Kentai said: »
Ah, figured out what I was doing wrong. I had to use a weaponskill first so Ayame knew which I was going to be using.
She's always worked that way. Then she knows what to SC off of.
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