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By Bismarck.Firedfoxd 2013-12-05 13:32:05
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I recently got a bravura and im looking for sets for metatron torment...

there isnt one in the warrior's guide


also wondering if the ws could crit and or could double attk


tnx in advance
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2013-12-05 13:50:26
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Double Attack yes, Critical Hit only with Sneak Attack or Mighty Strikes.
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By Carbuncle.Tyleron 2013-12-05 15:07:28
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There are sets on there just further down.
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By Carbuncle.Tyleron 2013-12-05 15:11:09
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Actually I cant find them now. Its easy just stack str.

Its pretty solid ws, just not as good as upheaval or ukko
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By Cerberus.Fiasko 2014-01-12 13:33:21
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Instead of making a new thread...
Do we have any testing on the evasion down effect and/or defense down from metatron on the i119 version?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-12 13:45:49
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Cerberus.Fiasko said: »
Instead of making a new thread...
Do we have any testing on the evasion down effect and/or defense down from metatron on the i119 version?

Some claim it's working, others claim it's still hopelessly broken. I was screenshots recently of half or greater resists on low level rabbits, so my money is on MT being strictly used for aftermath.
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By Leviathan.Isolation 2014-01-12 13:53:10
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mine seems to work, I haven't had a lot of use of it yet.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-01-12 18:12:58
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Do we know how the additional effect works with Feint? Does Bravura's add effect overwrite feint? Would be very very bad if it did.
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By Shiva.Flowen 2015-04-06 16:02:52
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Sorry for the necro. Are the defence and evasion down effects fixed?
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By Asura.Saevel 2015-04-07 03:23:37
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Shiva.Flowen said: »
Sorry for the necro. Are the defence and evasion down effects fixed?

It's fixed and is treated the same as the break WS's subject to magic accuracy resist checks. The Evasion down is -40 and happens frequently even on high level fights like VD AA. The defense down seems to happen often now, but I will need to check later on.
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By Shiva.Flowen 2015-04-08 15:23:02
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Shiva.Flowen said: »
Sorry for the necro. Are the defence and evasion down effects fixed?

It's fixed and is treated the same as the break WS's subject to magic accuracy resist checks. The Evasion down is -40 and happens frequently even on high level fights like VD AA. The defense down seems to happen often now, but I will need to check later on.

That's sweet. I know there's a lot more damage out there for great axes but eva/def down and the mighty -20DT is a lot of utility. Might make one XD
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By Sylph.Banhammer 2018-06-22 14:34:58
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Necro bump, #sorrynotsorry.

How is Bravura performing in [Current Year], 2018. I've tried doing some research and I see a lot of people saying the defense down on Metatron Torment wasn't landing often, but I couldn't find anything current or after the WS M.acc buff.

I'm not going out of my way to make this...I'm farming G.horn in Dynamis and need something to do with the rest of the currency. It's either this or Mandau, as I don't play RNG, NIN or lolMNK.

Looking for some wizdom. Thanks.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-06-22 14:43:12
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Sylph.Banhammer said: »
Necro bump, #sorrynotsorry.

How is Bravura performing in [Current Year], 2018. I've tried doing some research and I see a lot of people saying the defense down on Metatron Torment wasn't landing often, but I couldn't find anything current or after the WS M.acc buff.

I'm not going out of my way to make this...I'm farming G.horn in Dynamis and need something to do with the rest of the currency. It's either this or Mandau, as I don't play RNG, NIN or lolMNK.

Looking for some wizdom. Thanks.
I have two of these and I love the -damage taken + Regen aftermath when spamming NMs low man. I know there are better options for pure damage but since I multibox I don’t regret AGing both. The def down I notice it not procing a lot but it’s still fun.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-06-22 14:49:22
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Sylph.Banhammer said: »
Necro bump, #sorrynotsorry.

How is Bravura performing in [Current Year], 2018. I've tried doing some research and I see a lot of people saying the defense down on Metatron Torment wasn't landing often, but I couldn't find anything current or after the WS M.acc buff.

I'm not going out of my way to make this...I'm farming G.horn in Dynamis and need something to do with the rest of the currency. It's either this or Mandau, as I don't play RNG, NIN or lolMNK.

Looking for some wizdom. Thanks.

While I can't give you any physical data, what I can tell you from my parses in Omen versus very well geared SAM/WAR's is that it doesn't do to bad to be honest. Also the -DT is very noticeable as our Bravura WAR, assuming something does happen to other DDs, is usually the one to always survive. Just from surving and losing the 3-6m a fight is enough to put her in top DPS spots most times, or in other cases come very close behind. Sometimes when we have a tendency to be a lot more aggressive in parsing (Everyone is aggressive in pulling- engaging), I've even seen it in top spots.

While all this may be true, in these scenarios, and real applications. That isn't to say that damage wise it compares to the max potential of anything else on either of those jobs (Ukon/Masa/etc). I'm purely going from what I have seen in boss, and full omen clear parses.
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By Kodaijin 2018-06-22 15:08:47
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I assume you meant evasion down. I noticed it proc often on everything 119 and below... but those things dont live long enough for it to matter.

Defense and regen area aftermaths and are nice bonuses after every metatron torment.

If youre only comparing between mandau and bravura, then bravura is your best choice.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-06-22 16:27:19
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Kodaijin said: »
I assume you meant evasion down. I noticed it proc often on everything 119 and below... but those things dont live long enough for it to matter.

Defense and regen area aftermaths and are nice bonuses after every metatron torment.

If youre only comparing between mandau and bravura, then bravura is your best choice.
I agree I made a mandau and I use my bravura way more. My alt has a twatstar so they pretty go thf before my main lol
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-23 16:32:49
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Bravura is a very nice though situational weapon. It's WS Metatron Torment can be made to do pretty good damage, not as much as Upheaval or Resolution but still a ***ton due to all the WSD gear we've been getting lately. Bravura's big benefit comes with being able to hit 50% DT with almost no effort.

Bravura AM 20% DT
Defending Ring 10% DT
Moonbeam Ring 4% DT
Loricate Torque 6% DT

That's 40% right there and we have one more choice to make. If we just accept 40% BDT and the presence of Shell (why on earth would a WAR not have shell) then we only need 10% more PDT to hit cap with with our new capes is a given.

Cape 10% PDT

This leaves open all five armor slots, the ammo slot, both earrings and waist slot for offensive gear. Bravura also has an *** ton of accuracy so you can still keep putting out damage if your blinded or otherwise impaired.
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By DirectX 2018-06-23 18:00:49
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It should have been PDT II :\
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2019-01-30 11:56:22
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Guess this is another necro as well...

I'm just getting back into playing my Warrior, and I've let it fall way behind my other jobs unfortunately. I'm currently working on Aeonic Gun for COR and will probably make dagger after that seeing as THF was always my second favorite job.

So.. I won't be making a Chango any time soon.

I already have a few useful greatswords already; Montante +1 and Zulfiqar – I even have a very well augmented Macbain from back when it first came out. I'll eventually get around to picking up Raetic Algol +1. However, I don't have any useful Great Axes though. Seeing as I'm not making Chango any time soon and I don't want to spend the money on Ukkon/Conq (wrapping up DP right now), I decided to start working on Bravura.

The utility and survivability of the weapon intrigues me a lot, and seeing as it won't cost much to make, I figured it would be worth pulling the trigger on.

My question is about gearsets though. Not necessary hybrid sets or tp sets, those seem pretty easy to navigate. I'm looking for ideas for a proper Metatron Torment set.

I'm assuming any normal spot with WSD makes sense, and then WSD/multi-attack augments with as much +STR/attack as I can to fill out the rest? Is there anything else I should be gearing for?

Am I right in assuming that the resolution set from a few months ago (pre WSD fix) would be a good jumping off point?
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