No Tips After Dinner For Gays!

Church crowd is the worst for tips :<

This much!

That was a pastor? What a ***.

Seriously, what goes through the mind of people who go out of their way to be cruel enough to write in a 0 and add colorful commentary. I mean ***, if you're not gonna tip just pay the bill and walk out.

When the internet found out the story, Applebees came under heavy public criticism for not protecting their employees and firing the girl. I think they did what they had to do but no one came out looking pretty.

It's pretty common if you're in a large group of 5+ people during busy hours. Not exactly my cup of tea but I'm not going to write in a zero and insult someone simply because I'm annoyed with management.

That takes levels of *** I have to be goaded into reaching.

I didn't even know you could just cross out the "automatic" gratuity and just be done with it. Not that I would do that, but I always assumed if you ate with a large party that it was just something you were forced into.

There's almost always a disclaimer printed in menus, so it's kind of *** to accept the terms by eating there and to then refuse to pay. I can't think of (m)any other settings where someone could agree to a price, consume a product, and then get away with blowing off a large part of the bill.

It's definitely also shitty of the restaurant to try guilting people into paying a second tip on top of the gratuity, but that's still no excuse for ignoring the posted warning about parties of a certain size.

It just seems awkward to be like "you must pay X amount" and then turn around and say "well <.< unless you wanna... you know... pay more. *wink*"

Maybe I'm being unreasonable on that one, idk. I'm used to crazy low food prices and no tip culture at all lol

Edit: I do understand that sometimes people do wanna tip more and maybe don't carry cash or something like that. Makes sense in that scenario.

Wtf?! Really SOOO MANY restaurants do the "additional tip amount." It isn't the server doing it. It's the restaurant's computer system. It's done for several reasons, none of which are meant to give the customer a guilt-trip: 1) if the party is larger than e.g. 14(that was the magic number for many of my restaurants the manager might require more than one server for the party. 2)To ensure that appetizers, entree, desert hit the simultaneously and that beverages are refilled is A LOT of work. A lot more work than a table of 4 or 6. 3) To not insult the guest. Automatic gratuity is typically 15-18%, some guests get offended if you say oh well you can/capable of tipping X%.

EDIT: many edits

All the restaurants in my city is any party larger than 5 for the auto gratuity

Edit: Can someone explain the whole percentage thing?

If I go and get the friend chicken dinner for $7 vs the $18 salmon, I don't see where it makes sense to tip a percentage because in order B, they get tipped more than twice the amount for doing the exact same amount of work

Automatic gratuity for large parties makes sense, especially considering the fact that diners can be expected to have read about them in the menu.

The gratuity is meant to protect the servers by ensuring that they receive compensation after a particularly taxing service. The restaurant steps in and essentially tells the customer "this is the value of our employees' service to your large party." What doesn't make sense to a lot of people is the additional tip line, which seems to suggest that the initial gratuity does not in fact perform its intended function. This leads them to question why the gratuity is even there in the first place if they're also going to be asked for a tip, which is supposed to pay for the same thing (the service they supposedly already paid for).

On the other hand, I agree that it's entirely reasonable to give people a way to pay more if they so desire. Just explaining why some people find the gratuity+tip combo check to be awkward.

If the service is good I'll tip. If it's ***, I won't. If it's mediocre I'll leave like $2-4. Where I live, pretty much all restaurants only do the automatic gratuity if it's like a party of at least 5-7.

I myself always pay cash at a restaurant to prevent the possibility of some piece of ***putting a tip himself on my card. (It happened once and never again. Even though I wrote the actual total too, he still did it, and re-wrote the total like a dumbass.) If the place is busy I'll personally give the waiter/waitress their tip to prevent another one from stealing or the whole "we combine all tips and split them evenly at end of day" policy. (A pizza hut here does that. Don't know how many other places.)

I don't hate tipping, I hate when people expect a tip regardless of their performance.

As someone else said, you can tell who actually works for their tips and cares. They are the only ones who deserve a tip imho.

Though if you aren't going to tip, just don't tip. There is no reason to leave a reason why you aren't tipping.

1) it isn't the same work. If something happens to that salmon(e.g. It gets stolen by another server, over cooked, the customer doesn't like it), it takes longer to cook than the fried chicken. Typically more expensive dishes have more expensive ingredients and sometimes longer cooking times. If something goes wrong w/ fried chicken a kitchen can spit it out in 5-10 minutes.

2)usually if the average check is higher per guest that typically means more items have been ordered, but not always.

Eight pages of arguments over tipping makes me want to never go to a restaurant ever again.

Whose up for some frozen pizza?

1) I'm referring to the work done by the waiter; not by the kitchen/etc. and if I'm really hungry and get the $7 chicken, and the $5 appetizer for myself, rather than one $18 dollar meal, then in that case, the waiter is doing more work on the lesser item(s) (as well as the kitchen), but yes, in some cases you're right; it may take longer to cook.

As for the more expensive ingredients, that's already obvious, and reflected in the price difference between the two items. (and price of the food item doesn't reflect the work done by the waiter/waitress anyways)

and if there's error/something goes wrong with it, that's not the customer's fault, so I don't even see why that's a point/issue here. If the kitchen burns the salmon, drops the salmon, etc. Then that's the kitchen's fault.

as for number 2, again; I agree with this sometimes, but there are other times where it could be the exact opposite. Especially with how I eat, I'm always debating on one more expensive entree vs two much cheaper ones or a cheaper one + an appetizer

i would tip you all for jesus then id tip jesus like a cow

I'm glad I live in a part of the world where tipping not only isn't expected but doesn't happen.

With the way money works over there... Besides, who wants to try and figure out 17.5% of 354,000 yen? I have enough trouble with even numbers after a big greasy meal.

Tipping isn't mandatory, automatic gratuity isn't mandatory ( Pope, Wagner v Lehigh Pub; Taveras v Soprano's Italian and American Grill). To bring religion into it whether its saying you don't agree with gays or you give 10% to the church etc. that's just a cop out, and a weak one at that. Simply saying the service was bad, or you don't believe in tipping for something that is within the job detail, is far more respectable.

Haha yen is easy, it's won (KRW) that can be challenging. Approximately 100yen = 1 USD, and 1000 won = 1 USD. So when I pay for a mean with my gf it's like 32,000 won, or about $30. The interesting part is how they say it, it's not thirty two thousand won, but thirty ten thousand and two one thousand won. They use a unit of measurement we simply don't have.

Anyhow most servers are university students working part time, some are highschool students but that is kinda of rare.

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I've worked in the restaurant business in the past for many years. Tipping was one of those things that always struck my nerves. As a patron or waiter, the whole idea of tipping is 100% unethical. That idea will probably piss people off, but hear me out.

Companies like applebess, carlos o'kellys, and pretty much every chain restaurant in the US abuse this system to underpay their employees and at the end of the night, force servers to "tip-out" to other employees. No wonder they encourage people to tip 18%+. The more tips servers make, the less they have to make up come pay period when hosts, and bussers don't make minimum wage.

I work a respectable job and make $25 an hour. I take my family in and have dinner and spend $200. Why has society bestowed this obligation on me to pay a server, who has spent maybe 15min(a good server) at my table in the hour that we have been at this restaurant? In turn paying him/her $30/hour to ask me if things are ok. ***!

I do tip, but not at the standards set by society. Call me a cheap *** if ya want, that job is NOT hard and ANYONE can do it, but even exceptional service is not worth $30 an hour, or even $10.

So, lets all ban tipping and force waitstaff to be paid minimum wage.

Instead of our current system where a waitstaff usually earns $100 or more on a good night PLUS their wages.

That will show those evil restaurant owners that they can't undercut their labor costs and expect the customer to help pay the difference!