Shut 'em Down!

lol

You didn't understand the basic definition of words in the paper I cited. That's like putting the chess pieces up your nose then declaring a checkmate.

More wrongness and still no evidence. You have nothing.

He has his opinion and that's all that matters to him. It's pretty obvious you could post studies from M.I.T and Cal Tech and those papers would be wrong in his/her mind.

These papers and reports that are pages upon pages of information of evidence to support the argument can be dismissed with a mere single sentence. His opinion is more informed than the brightest scientific minds on the planet.

Also that we're all religious zealots in the house of global warming. So name calling and conjecture is their style. They don't want intellectual coversations just unsubstantiated opinions.

Joke is on all of us for expecting any type of academic decorum in the Science and Religion sections.



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Science isn't a religion. While there are certainly those who could be classified as zealots on both sides of the argument, the data doesn't change just because of who looks at it. Just some people like to exclude data just because it doesn't work with their idea. You can "proof" anything you want by cherry picking data and misleading people with fake/skewed data or misinformed conclusions but you have a lot of learning to do about science and how to use it.


If you feel that climate is the same, you don't understand what climate is because even those arguing against humans causing it, acknowledge that it has changed significantly. There is a lot we don't understand, many things are still up in the air but while you are putting together a puzzle, you can take a pretty decent guess at what it is even before you're done. There is an avalanche of data supporting the idea that humans are causing it(not just CO2 but in many other ways as well). There is support for the other side as well. Real data too, but there is just so much less of it.

Uh, no, the cup of water will freeze following much more complex variables than temperature. 100% pure water will freeze at a known rate at the equatorial sea level at a known temperature.

So since you brought water into it, there are actually very predictable and testable components of the Global Climate Change.

The Earths global Albedo can be measured with current orbital probes and has multiple times, it's going down as ice melts. That means more heat is staying on the planet.

Ice melt lowers the albedo, lowers the salinity of the oceans, increases sea level, and further reduces albedo. Changes in salinity and depth of the water lead to larger tides and changes in global currents, which changes weather patterns. All of these things are directly linked through decades of independent research, proven through thousands of peer reviewed studies, and reaffirmed through years of predictions that came true.

You use some scientific words and concepts to lend credibility to the pseudo-science you are subscribing to, but you are just as misinformed and clueless as every other climate change denier.

And still have not cited a single source.

Climate change is old, how bout we return to Debt Denial...that was a far more interesting topic 30(or some number, i forget what page it was actually on...) pages back D:

This please. I hate arguing things that we cannot prove or disprove.

Well then it's a good thing that climate change doesn't fit into that category.

Well, this is something that is absolutely proven and accepted by basically every person qualified to make a conclusion. But, I agree, let's get back to the topic.

There's a topic? I kind of assumed this is just a P&R catch-all thread, and the only reason it hasn't been locked yet is so the mods don't have to keep de-maining new threads.

We can't even get back on topic since the title topic already had a real life resolution. We have since run the gambit of neo-conservative hot topics. Shut Down>ACA>IRS>EPA>Climate Change.

We're only a post or two and one off topic tangent away from a discussion on Intelligent Design v Evolution or Barack Obama's birth certificate or Fast and Furious.

I think Pleebo is right this hasn't been closed because the mods do not want new threads to remove from the main page.

I generally hated part of this panel...granted, lolmichealmoore is the bane to my existence. They hit on some nice points, but the conversation got annoying fast.

The mods know we do Gods work here keeping traffic on the site. A 74 page thread is good news for FFXIAH!

....even if the 74 pages are the equivalent of throwing blocks at each other for days on end.

Liberal conspiracy. False religion.

Need more Nuclear.

Neither are that much socialist anyway, fascist: yes, but not really socialist.

Don't tell the neo-cons though, they still don't know that there's a difference.

he has a chess piece up his nose... weren't you paying attention to the middle of your own story?


the topic was a celebration of the shut down which has since ended...

that it has degrade into name calling and anecdotal arguments about climate change is clearly the work of the chinese...

THANKS OBAMA!!!

Anthropological global warming is a myth.

Just another vehicle for statists, fascists, and communists to grab power and restrict freedoms.

It isn't a myth to them, they have Al Gore telling them it isn't a myth.

Never mind that the Science community can't even agree on the method of measurement needed to determine global warming, it is real because Al Gore said so!

This is wonderful...

Pollution is good for you. It builds character and makes you tougher!

/eats toxic waste

Toxic waste! now comes in black cherry flavor!

Well the center of the earth is really hot. Its "million of degrees" hot, in fact. So if he's willing to refrain from the art of hyperbole on these scientific facts then clearly the rest of what he says is reasonable.

lol what? Oh man... golden post right here...

We must keep toxic waste out of the hands of aspiring super heroes... I can't tell you how many times I find these kids and man-children rolling around in the waste waiting for their powers to form... and sometimes... well sometimes I'm just too late and they're no longer rolling around...

darwin! let the process work!

But they're always breaking into my back yard and ruining my expiriments man... I used to have a death ray but the government frowned upon that... Why can't I kill tresspassers? I mean there was a big sign and everything... the thing even waved to you first... I always got a kick out of that...

In case you missed it....

Yes, because Al Gore said so. Because Al Gore said so..

al gore was tragically born without the ability to display emotions...
but he couldn't get anyone to donate money for research on that... so he came up with global warming... after those *** gypped him out of all his internet inventing money