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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Except those who consider IRS scandal is a "phony scandal" All I'm saying is it's not a conspiracy. A conspiracy is "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful" It's not a secret! They hate us! and We hate them!!! If you saw someone wearing an IRS badge in the crosswalk you would instinctively stomp on the gas peddle. You might not hit him, but you would try. Obviously they are going to give the tea party more scrutiny It's dumb to think they wouldn't. We are fundamentally at odds. Hey look! It's another request from those jerks in the tea party demanding 501-c4 status so they can fire me. I WONDER IF I SHOULD BREAK MY NECK GETTING BACK TO THEM? /roundfile They threw your application in the garbage and then they peed on it. Put yourself in their shoes for thirty seconds and tell me you wouldn't do the exact same thing. I know I would! Bahamut.Kara said: » Quote: According to the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, the I.R.S. received 199,689 applications for tax-exempt status between 2010 and 2012. In 2012 alone, the agency received 73,319, of which about 22,000 were not approved in the initial review process. The inspector general looked at 296 applications flagged as potentially being from political groups. That means most of the applications pulled aside for further scrutiny in those years had nothing to do with politics, conservative or liberal, just as most of the red flags thrown up by the I.R.S.’s lookout lists were not overtly political. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/us/politics/irs-scrutiny-went-beyond-the-political.html?hp&pagewanted=all&_r=0 Asura.Kingnobody said: » Now I see your point. You are thinking that they were targeted as a survivalist tendency. My mistake. It should come as no surprise that government employees, liberals, that work at the IRS, that everyone hates, that the tea party would like to all be fired and replaced with a flat tax and a computer program... wouldn't give a flying *** whether or not a tea party application got processed in a timely manner. Here's another mind blowing revelation! Chickens don't particularly like chicken hawks!!! YouTube Video Placeholder I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups?
Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? I'm saying it isn't shocking or especially news worthy that democrats don't like republicans and vice versa... We have to quit pulling the fire alarm everytime someone smokes a cigarette if we want people to take us seriously. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? I'm saying it isn't shocking or especially news worthy that democrats don't like republicans and vice versa... We have to quit pulling the fire alarm everytime someone smokes a cigarette if we want people to take us seriously. To that we should absolutely pull the fire alarm each and every time. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? I'm saying it isn't shocking or especially news worthy that democrats don't like republicans and vice versa... We have to quit pulling the fire alarm everytime someone smokes a cigarette if we want people to take us seriously. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? In other news some guy that Obama has never met before but defines himself as a democrat punches and known republican! Omg Obama is setting hit squads after republicans now! Hide your babies! Hide yo wives! and so on... all going according to plan... Nefarious plot # 146: Put Ted Cruz in office under the Tea Party flag to cause further chaos amongst the republican party leadership and rank and file... make him pull stunts like standing for 21 hours and talking about nothing that had absolutely no point as it was not a filibuster just a pr stunt... and make jokes like Quote: Cruz played up the notion that the White House feared his influence, especially as he plans to join fellow Senate Republicans for a meeting with Obama on Friday at the White House. "After leaving here, I'm going to be going to the White House. I will make a request -- if I'm never seen again, please send a search and rescue team," Cruz said, joking that he might mysteriously wake up in Syria. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Shiva.Nikolce said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? Nefarious goal: Ostracize and ridicule conservatives to the point where no one cares about them anymore... even themselves! then eliminate them and move on peacably! We will replace the workforce with illegal immigrants! Siren.Flavin said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I don't know why we are even debating this.Remember when the IRS apologized for specifically scrutinizing tea party groups? Remember when the president apologized for it too and "fixed" it? "I’ll do everything in my power to make sure nothing like this happens again by holding the responsible parties accountable..." - Obama Oh guess what? Current employees testify before congress that it's still happening. Oh it's not just political action committees, it's potentially also future politicians. Look at the lengths Obama goes to to ensure the people experience pain from the government shutdown, are you really gonna reply by saying 'but that's just politics, he'd never do anything really bad'? In other news some guy that Obama has never met before but defines himself as a democrat punches and known republican! Omg Obama is setting hit squads after republicans now! Hide your babies! Hide yo wives! and so on... all going according to plan... Nefarious plot # 146: Put Ted Cruz in office under the Tea Party flag to cause further chaos amongst the republican party leadership and rank and file... make him pull stunts like standing for 21 hours and talking about nothing that had absolutely no point as it was not a filibuster just a pr stunt... and make jokes like Quote: Cruz played up the notion that the White House feared his influence, especially as he plans to join fellow Senate Republicans for a meeting with Obama on Friday at the White House. "After leaving here, I'm going to be going to the White House. I will make a request -- if I'm never seen again, please send a search and rescue team," Cruz said, joking that he might mysteriously wake up in Syria. Well, it's true!
It isn't all Fox News who are throwing these stories about how "evil" Obama is and what he is doing to this nation. I don't watch Fox News at all and I still get blasted with these stories on a daily basis. Edit: also how "evil" Republicans are on a daily basis too... Asura.Kingnobody said: » Well, it's true! It isn't all Fox News who are throwing these stories about how "evil" Obama is and what he is doing to this nation. I don't watch Fox News at all and I still get blasted with these stories on a daily basis. Maybe because once you leave the conservosphere, the reality becomes apparent that many liberals aren't very happy with what has turned out to be a very moderate Barack Obama. Many of these same liberals are akin to their far-right mirrors in that they want big changes and they want them now. Problem is, the Democratic party has no Tea Party mirror. At best, you get to listen to Bernie Sanders. Obama pushes healthcare beloved at one point by Republicans, continues Bush-era policies of detention and drones, serves the interests of Wall Street, took his time to switch his position on gay marriage and is pretty much the picture of a calculating politician. Of course you'll always have your sycophants who do nothing but back their party/president (like the people who swear Bush was da best) but liberal? Obama is a left-leaning moderate. Always has been. That's not even getting into the fact that Republicans currently have a problem with communicating outside the WASP community.
The Democrats have an advantage only because Republicans are so bad at communicating their platform message without offending damn near everyone. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Well, it's true! It isn't all Fox News who are throwing these stories about how "evil" Obama is and what he is doing to this nation. I don't watch Fox News at all and I still get blasted with these stories on a daily basis. Edit: also how "evil" Republicans are on a daily basis too... Offline
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Looks like Harry Reid has your back! Just sayin'
Fumiku said: » Looks like Harry Reid has your back! Just sayin' Ragnarok.Nausi said: » The shocking part is that they abuse the power of government to achieve their ends. To that we should absolutely pull the fire alarm each and every time. what's shocking about it? That's the whole point of limiting the size and scope of government. It's not possible for anyone to not abuse that kind of power. That's why I said... Put yourself in the shoes of an IRS agent. Let's say you're the only republican that works there and you just got done watching that movie with the guy pretending he was a pimp at ACORN and then hey look, it's an application from a group just like ACORN asking for special tax status...and here is another one from a group I like. I wonder which one I will process first... then multiply that by 10,000 other people that work there and there is your conspiracy. What the tea party doesn't understand is that it goes both ways nobody at the IRS likes them either and they ain't ever gunna. Not then and certainly not now after we trashed them for a year.... YEAH! Let me jump right on that application Mr. Tea Party Patriot! I totally love and understand you now, thanks for kicking me in the balls every day this year..... /rolls up his sleeves to get to work Yeah I can here the rustling of paper from here with all the mad flurry to help the tea party.... I bet they're practically starting a fire with all that paper on paper friction.... Shiva.Nikolce said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » The shocking part is that they abuse the power of government to achieve their ends. To that we should absolutely pull the fire alarm each and every time. what's shocking about it? That's the whole point of limiting the size and scope of government. It's not possible for anyone to not abuse that kind of power. That's why I said... Put yourself in the shoes of an IRS agent. Let's say you're the only republican that works there and you just got done watching that movie with the guy pretending he was a pimp at ACORN and then hey look, it's an application from a group just like ACORN asking for special tax status...and here is another one from a group I like. I wonder which one I will process first... then multiply that by 10,000 other people that work there and there is your conspiracy. What the tea party doesn't understand is that it goes both ways nobody at the IRS likes them either and they ain't ever gunna. Not then and certainly not now after we trashed them for a year.... YEAH! Let me jump right on that application Mr. Tea Party Patriot! I totally love and understand you now, thanks for kicking me in the balls every day this year..... /rolls up his sleeves to get to work Yeah I can here the rustling of paper from here with all the mad flurry to help the tea party.... I bet they're practically starting a fire with all that paper on paper friction.... What ever happened to the whole concept of "civil service"? Are you suggesting that just because some people will hate you anyways, you get to say "screw that"? You were in their shoes... you did do it too... you were just ok with it because your guy was in the office at that time lol...
Siren.Flavin said: » You were in their shoes... you did do it too... you were just ok with it because your guy was in the office at that time lol... When did bush keep veterans out of the national parks and when did he instruct the IRS to abuse individuals because of their political beliefs? Wow... you really are a ridiculous person lol...
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It's more like the government is ran by people therefore you shouldn't be alarmed that it has faults, much like how people do.
If you say I'm in the party that doesn't want to pay taxes, and I'm going to file for tax exempt status and IRS shouldn't scrutinize this EVAH! Then you are missing the part where the IRS's job is to collect taxes. If someone who is part of a party who has identifed themselves as part of the aforementioned group files for tax exempt status with a name that runs parallel to the aforementioned; they in response are going to say: "Hey it is those guys who don't want to pay taxes trying to not pay taxes via a 501c submission. Better check into the validity of this." Hell if you submit a 501c and do not expect some type of follow up that scrutinizes your claim... there are no words that wouldnt be insulting. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Dude, you are justifying the governments tyranny by saying "hey, if you were in their shoes you'd do it too..." What ever happened to the whole concept of "civil service"? Are you suggesting that just because some people will hate you anyways, you get to say "screw that"? No, what I'm saying is we should get rid of the whole thing. Shut down the government. Go into default. Let the economy collapse. And start over. /rubs temples
Is the backread even worth it? Are there any gems amongst this rubble? Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Siren.Flavin said: » You were in their shoes... you did do it too... you were just ok with it because your guy was in the office at that time lol... When did bush keep veterans out of the national parks and when did he instruct the IRS to abuse individuals because of their political beliefs? he made all those old people eat cat food and repossessed their wheelchairs. |
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