Where Did All The Gil Come From?

A question for the economics majors and well anyone else. Where did all the gil on a server come from? With a game that you start out with no money and the only sources are certain monsters npcing/quest the occasional treasure chest and a rare SE npc pricing glitch. How is there now billions if not hundreds of billions of gil on a server and people walking around with hundreds of millions when there is such a limited number of people on a server to be making it?

Short answer: people sell stuff to NPC

Long answer: People sold lots of stuff to NPC and hoard massive amount of gil (massive as in maximum number of gil possible on several characters). Fishermen are the major driving force in pumping in gil into the economy as they sold most of their stuff to NPC. Exploits and bugs in the past would also brought in massive amount of gil.

As of the 10/22/12 emergency maintenance, chocobo blinkers now sell for 67 gil to an NPC instead of the 529g it used to be.


A lot of people did that to make gil.

Also if you were a female in real life and could prove it the gil will come rolling right in.

Even if you couldn't prove it lol. I have friends who shared some pretty interesting/twisted/hilarious stories.

Lol had this kinda happen once. Was on a mithra mule and a friend of mine started hitting on my mule not knowing it was me. Needless to say hilarity ensued.

I think the rule should be you must be this attractive in real life for gil. Just like in real life ugly women don't get free things. lol

POIDH

Everyone knows women aren't allowed on MMO's just confused young men.

There are no women on the internet,just 2 guys cybering each other as "lesbians"

Joking aside, gil isn't generated by fat guys pretending to be girls, gil is generated by NPCing items the game generates. Fishing is the biggest thing right now, but it's by no means the only one.

Several ways like repeatable quests to get gil. Fight an NM get a drop do the quest and get the gil. Example of this is the crawler in Crawlers Nest that you would pop it with Rolanberry. Rolanberry where sold from the NPC in Upper Jeuno. Pop this Guardian Crawler and kill it. He would drop a Rolanberry 881 which you would turn in to NPC the quest "cargo" and get 800 gil. Back then you could repeat this quest over and over and over. Didn't have to wait. So what you did was buy 10 stacks of Rolanberry, spam the NM for Rolanberry 881 and just sit there turning them in one after the other. SE finally corrected this issue by making the quest only obtainable once every game day. There are several other quests that you could do exactly this.

Edit: if you did the math... 10 stacks of Rolanberry= 10x12=120 Rolanberry. This would give you 120 Rolanberry 881. 120x800gil is 96,000gil. Of course you would have the upfront cost of the Rolanberrys which wasn't a whole lot. I want to say they where 30 gil each. So 120 rolanberrys at 30gil = 3,600 gil investment. This would give you a profit of 92,400 gil.

Voidwatch is still a great way of making gil if you can get people to do it.

NPC will pretty much always be the answer to that. Prior to things like Blinkers and Hakss there was remedy's that people would sell to the NPC's where you could make 100k per x12 as an alchemist prior to the nerf. RMT really made a killing with that one.

Bird blood back in the day made people quite a bit of money till it was nerfed.

The list can go on and on. Another funny one to add is the adventure certificate you get at the beginning of game. Make a character mule start the game, NPC the adventure certificate move gil to main character. At this time you delete the mule and do it all over again.

Doing your mission storyline also generated good gil. 100,000 for Rank 10. 319,000 in total for prize money after getting Rank 10. Do all 3 nations and you have 957,000. Back when the game started, if you didn't do the padded cap NPC, that was good cash.

I loved that back in the day and was really bummed when I took a break from the game and came back to find it nerfed. You're wrong in your profit estimates though. If you recall the NM wasn't a guaranteed pop, it took on average 3-4 trades to get the pop to happen. Generally you could get ~20-30k profit off 10 stacks, still respectable for a poor poor taru with 10k to his name crying that he'll never be able to afford snipers rings.


To the OP though, you forget that the game has had 11 years of npc gil being pumped into it. Sure uncounter billions have been removed through RMT bans and people just quitting and leaving it on their characters, but over the long years there have been countless ways for gil to be pumped into the economy (including a few foolish people that even took gil from SE through rank 1 bonanza prizes)

The avatar fights way back in the day could be repeated more than 1 time a day. 10k per fight if you took the gil.

Aye - in the early days (2003) when we were but highschool/college freshmen it didn't matter if you knew the other person was a male in real life.

We had a friend we all knew was a straight guy, and we pampered him with gifts because his toon ran around in mithra undies doing naughty emotes. He got the first black belt, first ridil, first dhalmatica.

Swishytail I'm talking about you.

EDIT: Blazer, be gone impostor!

The question isn't about making gil, it's about generating it within the server space, meaning to add new gil to the server. All the gil traded on the AH had to come from one of the generation techniques, like monster drops, NPC'ing (Probably the biggest), quests and the like. Remedy Synths, blinkers and Fishing pump vast amounts of gil into the server, causing inflation. The first two having been resolved.


AH Fees, Bazaar Taxes (Do they still exist?), buying from NPCs and deleting a character with gil are means to destroy the currency. A healthy game economy can't have either outstrip the other significantly, as we saw in I think 2008-2009 when FFXI Inflation was obscene, a Haubergeon (NQ) cost 12Million.

There's only room for 1 blazer here. And you have a higher post count /exitthread

Blade,Lazer,Blazer

Let's not forget the gil prizes of the Mog Bonanza's.

The gil prizes are divided up based on how much gil is earned from the marbles. Since not everyone takes a gil prize, it actually should have a net loss on the amount of gil in the game.

Very early in the game's life, didn't gigas drop like 1000g each? When reading about the history of the game, I recall killing gigas used to be a very profitable thing, especially with gilfinder.

Overall, maybe, depending on how many people take that prize. However, it can also be a net increase to a specific server given that it is a total from all servers that is divided up and not something server specific.

On NA release the rewards from NPCing many items wsd reduced. It took us 4 years to catch up to them and eventually banish them to obscurity. Who's the ONRY now JPs?!

The 5-10K that some NM's drop (I believe I mugged almost 20K off aspid once) seems like it would be a lot when you factor how many times its killed, but for a large portion of the game's life, those NM's were only available 3-5 times a week, so that's not really significant when you factor in selling hundreds of blinkers at 530g a pop EVERYDAY or a couple hundred Hak's at 10K a pop.

Same idea with a few hundred million gil once a year for mog bonanza.