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 Ifrit.Eikechi
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 01:13:21
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sup peeps
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-25 01:31:28
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sup
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 01:47:08
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doin my final Taipan Fangs +1 ToM atm... I'm doing the Pet: MAB+ path..this last trial is hilariously easy
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:03:18
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
sup peeps

/wave



Ifrit.Eikechi said:
doin my final Taipan Fangs +1 ToM atm... I'm doing the Pet: MAB+ path..this last trial is hilariously easy


Nice, I need to get off my *** and finish up my taipan fangs fire path. Haven't even gotten to the point I'd use em over destroyers =S I'm such a lazy ***.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-25 02:05:54
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2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-09-25 02:21:31
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
Pick gtfo since mnk is a joke anyway.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:22:03
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!

It's worse than normal punching now, iirc.
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
Pick gtfo since mnk is a joke anyway.

/bite
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-25 02:25:10
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
It's worse than normal punching now, iirc.
Since when? Af3 just makes it even better. Hit slightly less frequently, hit alot harder, for alot more tp per hit, alot less tp given per hit to mob and ws stronger. And who knows what augment kick attacks does lol
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-09-25 02:32:48
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zzz...

Echoes is so stingy
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:34:03
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
It's worse than normal punching now, iirc.
Since when? Af3 just makes it even better. Hit slightly less frequently, hit alot harder, for alot more tp per hit, alot less tp given per hit to mob and ws stronger. And who knows what augment kick attacks does lol

I haven't read anything dealing with the Tantra Gaiters. A lot depends on that, however...

1) Mnk got a new martial arts trait. Takes their base delay down to 280.

2) Wargfangs +1 add nothing new to footwork, when Taipan Fangs +1 are quite a bit stronger than their NQ counterpart.

It was mathed out that punching came out a fair bit ahead of footwork now with optimal gear. Unless the shoes add a fair bit to footwork and kick attack dmg, it won't make up for the difference.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-25 02:38:30
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Serj can u PM me the footwork 85 vs. H2h If you have it, MNK interests me even though i dont have it lvl'd :X
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:40:29
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Fenrir.Mankey said:
Serj can u PM me the footwork 85 vs. H2h If you have it, MNK interests me even though i dont have it lvl'd :X

Lemme look through mnk forums on wiki, I think Tiger posted the math to it there.
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-09-25 02:42:37
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MNK is as yawn as this! :O
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:43:08
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Sent
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-25 02:43:28
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
2-3 + footwork or gtfo!
It's worse than normal punching now, iirc.
Since when? Af3 just makes it even better. Hit slightly less frequently, hit alot harder, for alot more tp per hit, alot less tp given per hit to mob and ws stronger. And who knows what augment kick attacks does lol
I haven't read anything dealing with the Tantra Gaiters. A lot depends on that, however...

1) Mnk got a new martial arts trait. Takes their base delay down to 280.

2) Wargfangs +1 add nothing new to footwork, when Taipan Fangs +1 are quite a bit stronger than their NQ counterpart.

It was mathed out that punching came out a fair bit ahead of footwork now with optimal gear. Unless the shoes add a fair bit to footwork and kick attack dmg, it won't make up for the difference.
Hmmm I guess. Idk before lvl cap 2-3 came out way way ahead. And the warfangs lower delay a bit which matters. I seriously doubt the feet will add less than 30 to base dmg. Though even if they didn't your based dmg would still be higher during footwork unless they added hardly anything. Plus the new gear also has alot more kick attacks in it which pushes things more towards footwork too.


Either way tp gain to tp given will rock for footwork
I'd like to see this math that puts punching way ahead
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:44:59
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PMed it to you too
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 02:46:34
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I finished my taipan fangs +1! took 85m TOTAL for 60 mobs and that includes a few trips to WoE to avoid greater amphitre aggro lol and waiting on snow weather repops from gloom... wootz pet MAB+9!
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-09-25 02:47:11
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Someone make coins drop :<
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 02:47:40
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also...what is up with the people doing STR+ taipans for mnk? aren't the Barracudas+1 with WS dmg +10% like much better? (thats the 2nd h2h I'm working on for pup... 1 claw set for me, 1 claw set for low-manning NMs with blm puppet hehe)
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:47:51
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
I finished my taipan fangs +1! took 85m TOTAL for 60 mobs and that includes a few trips to WoE to avoid greater amphitre aggro lol and waiting on snow weather repops from gloom... wootz pet MAB+9!

CG!
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 02:48:27
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thx ^^
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-25 02:50:43
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Bahamut.Serj said:
PMed it to you too
I am dissapoint. There was 0 math. No listing of what the supposed optimal gearing was. No what buffs etc etc etc
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-25 02:50:51
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Bahamut.Serj said:
PMed it to you too
ty friend
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-25 02:51:14
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
I finished my taipan fangs +1! took 85m TOTAL for 60 mobs and that includes a few trips to WoE to avoid greater amphitre aggro lol and waiting on snow weather repops from gloom... wootz pet MAB+9!
grats
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-25 02:52:01
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thx mankey ^^
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:52:17
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
PMed it to you too
I am dissapoint. There was 0 math. No listing of what the supposed optimal gearing was. No what buffs etc etc etc

Go dig up the post, then.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-25 02:53:55
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Serj know if thats /SAM on footwork? I know thats what pushes the build, even though generally MNK/NIN for w/e reason
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-25 02:54:53
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No clue, actually.
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nobody answered my taipan +1 str vs barracuda+1 question :P
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