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Fenrir.Tool
Serveur: Fenrir
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Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:24:03
Siren.Enternius said: Fenrir.Tool said: Siren.Enternius said: There's no reason to go for Aftermath with Ryunohige. Drakesbane only increases crit rate at higher TP so assuming you have a good DEX build for it, 300 TP won't be much more effective than 100 TP. That said, you're sacrificing 66% of your WS damage to get cool 800-damage jump spikes.
Aye, but once you did get the aftermath, all hell can break loose since you'd be swinging away like crazy and jumps would be crit and DAed. However, you would be generally sacrificing a lot of WS dmg from obtaining said aftermath. And then even if you were doing that, the double-attack jumps would all be for naught as you'd just have to save up to 300 TP again.
Yeah =/
How long is the aftermath anyways? 1 minute right?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:24:53
2 minutes for DA, 3 minutes for ACC/Attack.
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:26:03
Eh yeah. If you were smart about it, you could easily get 300% back on time to repeat the process and still get 2-4 weapon skills off beforehand. But it just doesn't sound worth it to make DRG a DoT based damage dealer.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:27:45
And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's stuff like this that would win everytime regardless:
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:29:23
Yeah, the Corsesca wins for the sake of not having a condition to kick ***. But if you had the patience and haste buffs at hand, Ryonohige would be pretty neato. But god help the soul having to save up that initial first hand 300% -.-
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:31:25
Even saving to 300 TP with the OAT aftermath up, you'll still be a lot slower than someone WSing at 100 TP. Even someone using Stingray or something. Corseca WSs almost twice as often as even that, so you'll WS about 4x as often with Corseca than Ryunohige. For less damage, yes, but either way you look at it, 4 WSs for 1200 damage > 1 WS for 1800 damage.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-29 13:31:30
Siren.Enternius said: And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's stuff like this that would win everytime regardless:

And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's a job like this that would win everytime regardless:
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
Serveur: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3087
By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:32:07
Ryunohige is bad, and you should feel bad.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:32:38
Yeah, Loldrg and all that, but I was reading the comments on Ryunohige and people were saying "Lol this is the best mythic weapon" which, while that may be true, it just goes to show that Mythic weapons aren't worth using regardless.
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:34:16
Siren.Enternius said: Even saving to 300 TP with the OAT aftermath up, you'll still be a lot slower than someone WSing at 100 TP. Even someone using Stingray or something. Corseca WSs almost twice as often as even that, so you'll WS about 4x as often with Corseca than Ryunohige. For less damage, yes, but either way you look at it, 4 WSs for 1200 damage > 1 WS for 1800 damage.
I just realized. WSing even once at 100% post the 300% aftermath for the DA proc rate would totally overwrite it with the weaksauce aftermath huh?
Derp.
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:34:42
Conqueror is totally better.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:35:44
This spear is better than Ryunohige.
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:36:12
IMO the best mythics are the ones for the jobs that never had the chance to get a relic: DNC dagger, BLU sword and COR gun.
But with Empyreal weapons coming out and the potential they serve, Mythics may generally become total moot in time.
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:37:22
Kenkonken.
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:37:57
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: Kenkonken.
See? PUP is so lol, I completely forgot about it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:38:15
Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:38:52
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: Kenkonken.
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:38:55
Siren.Enternius said: Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.
No hidden so far, they are to get their own WS's I believe, but until they show they are worth the time, I am not even motioning towards any.
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:39:37
Kogarasumaru is the worst mythic by far, anyway.
Edit**
I mean I guess maybe its the best tanking GKT with the Third Eye which Idk even what it does, but that is pretty much it.
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:40:42
Siren.Enternius said: Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.
Their power will sleep til SE is done updating/releasing abyssea stuff. I have a feeling it'll be like 3 stages similar to the fashion in which relics are made.
Your base weapon for vision of abyssea, possibly augmented with neat stuff for scars, and hopefully the final version for heroes. We'll just have to see.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:46:25
Loldrg
Diabolos.Rydiya
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:48:33
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: Conqueror is totally better. Yagrush!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:49:31
Diabolos.Rydiya said: Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: Conqueror is totally better. Yagrush! Yagrush your face.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-08-29 13:50:29
Siren.Enternius said:
Loldrg Exception to the rule.
Diabolos.Rydiya
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:50:32
The ***? Why the hell is my laptop in KY? It's coming to WA and was in Arizona damnit!
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:51:32
Diabolos.Rydiya said: Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: Conqueror is totally better. Yagrush! Yay spend 90M and months of effort to be able to do what SCH could do back in 2008.
Diabolos.Rydiya
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:52:37
>.> I could've said Tupsimati..
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:53:30
loldrg?
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree

Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present

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Flionheart 22174 2008-11-17 14:28:15
Krizz 22085 2007-06-30 15:22:38
Haseyo 20875 2009-01-12 15:55:51
Dameshi 19807 2009-02-17 10:29:14
Urial 18636 2008-02-09 01:15:03
Spence 18475 2009-05-04 11:26:27
Kalyna 15001 2010-01-21 11:40:04
Rydiya 13469 2008-05-16 05:24:33
Alyria 12656 2007-10-23 10:58:35
Tigerwoods 10807 2007-03-14 21:10:43
Enternius 10382 2007-08-10 04:14:29
Slipispsycho 10072 2008-09-05 08:56:34
Rumaha 10000 2009-02-20 13:28:03
Kojo 9060 2007-06-30 17:46:02
Sevourn 8567 2009-02-10 00:10:20
Cheyne 8527 2007-04-27 12:27:54
Mabrook 8356 2008-07-01 00:53:38
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