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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:02:43
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The BRD ***was... kinda... nice... I suppose.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:03:42
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
The BRD ***was... kinda... nice... I suppose.

Would be nice if it's a short enough recast to keep a CHR song and ballad on if you're /whm. Hell might even make that -enmity song appealing now that you can direct it and keep it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:03:47
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I guess, if you want to melee. Not that that would ever happen.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:03:56
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Sylph.Anjali said:
So now THF is also getting dual wield?

Srsly, SE should just go ahead and hit the kill button on ffxi.

Pessimistic aren't we?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:05:14
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
The BRD ***was... kinda... nice... I suppose.

Would be nice if it's a short enough recast to keep a CHR song and ballad on if you're /whm. Hell might even make that -enmity song appealing now that you can direct it and keep it.

Nah, I doubt you'd ever use it due to Night and troub being so useful when fully merited tbh. Being able to keep a ballad up will help quite a bit in some situations (Main healing a party at faf before >.>)

And the Phalanx song looks boss.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:05:56
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Sylph.Anjali said:
So now THF is also getting dual wield?

Srsly, SE should just go ahead and hit the kill button on ffxi.

Pessimistic aren't we?
Not exactly.

From an outside standpoint, ever since the LV80 cap was announced, it just has felt like SE was creating problems, then creating JAs to fix them.

DNC got a whole lot of crap last update, including Dual Wield, which THF was supposed to get. That pissed THFs off, now THF is getting dual wield.

I'm sure now BSTs will be pissed or something and BST will get it next update too.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:07:07
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I won't be pessimistic until it releases. Some things are looking good, some things not so good.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:07:14
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
And the Phalanx song looks boss.
Only time I can see it useful is if your PLD forgot to learn Phalanx or is too cheap to get the scroll or something >.>
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:07:55
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High expectations and impatience tend to be the biggest source of problems. And everyone will get their just desserts I am sure.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:08:08
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Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
And the Phalanx song looks boss.
Only time I can see it useful is if your PLD forgot to learn Phalanx or is too cheap to get the scroll or something >.>

Or if it stacks.

edit: Or is better.
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Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
And the Phalanx song looks boss.
Only time I can see it useful is if your PLD forgot to learn Phalanx or is too cheap to get the scroll or something >.>

Stacking my friend. Stacking.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:13:45
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
And the Phalanx song looks boss.
Only time I can see it useful is if your PLD forgot to learn Phalanx or is too cheap to get the scroll or something >.>

Or if it stacks.

edit: Or is better.
If it's a single-target spell, I doubt it's going to stack.

The only time Phalanx is really more useful than Minne (Lol) is on mobs that will actually hit you for less than the Phalanx cap, or less than a certain amount of damage where that would take off a large fraction of the damage per hit.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:14:58
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Sylph.Anjali said:
I'm not being pessimistic. Basically what Ent said, it seems like they aren't adding certain things because it makes sense. They do it because one group of players got mad about another group of players getting such and such abilities. I know it's only dual wield I but the trait used to be unique to ninja and now three other jobs have it lol. I predict by the time we get to 99, every job in the game will have dual wield I. That's why I said they might aswell hit the kill button.
And I was being pretty optimistic when I said that actually. Dual Wield is something that everyone wants. Shield Defense bonus and MB increase and Fencer on BRD and PUP getting a defense bonus against critical hits (What the hell? Why not just a normal defense bonus? It's not like it would make PUP overpowered in the first place), no one asked for any of that crap. No one will use any of that crap.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:15:35
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It makes me happy because it shines some light on actual blood tanking through multiple damage mitigation methods. Cocoon, Phalanx, new brd song, etc.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:17:06
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Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
And the Phalanx song looks boss.
Only time I can see it useful is if your PLD forgot to learn Phalanx or is too cheap to get the scroll or something >.>

Or if it stacks.

edit: Or is better.
If it's a single-target spell, I doubt it's going to stack.

The only time Phalanx is really more useful than Minne (Lol) is on mobs that will actually hit you for less than the Phalanx cap, or less than a certain amount of damage where that would take off a large fraction of the damage per hit.

Most BRD songs stack with other things. It's not really counted as 'magic' is it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:17:40
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With Cocoon, Double Minne would be superior, assuming Phalanx song is less potent than NQ Phalanx. Though I see what you mean.

Honestly the reason I ever considered Phalanx any good is because if you use it solo, it lightens the burden of healing magic you have to cast. If you now require a BRD to do this, then you might as well just get a healer too.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:18:24
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Sylph.Anjali said:
I'm too old skool to appreciate everyone getting dual wield!
My main job is NIN, how do you think I feel?
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:18:32
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Sylph.Anjali said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Sylph.Anjali said:
I'm not being pessimistic. Basically what Ent said, it seems like they aren't adding certain things because it makes sense. They do it because one group of players got mad about another group of players getting such and such abilities. I know it's only dual wield I but the trait used to be unique to ninja and now three other jobs have it lol. I predict by the time we get to 99, every job in the game will have dual wield I. That's why I said they might aswell hit the kill button.
And I was being pretty optimistic when I said that actually. Dual Wield is something that everyone wants. Shield Defense bonus and MB increase and Fencer on BRD and PUP getting a defense bonus against critical hits (What the hell? Why not just a normal defense bonus? It's not like it would make PUP overpowered in the first place), no one asked for any of that crap. No one will use any of that crap.

I'm too old skool to appreciate everyone getting dual wield!

Well look at it this way. Everyone gets what they've been dying for, it can at the same time emphasize on the importance of specialization on those who utilize it significantly better with higher tiers.

Example: PUP martial arts vs MNK martial artes.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:19:38
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Most BRD songs stack with other things. It's not really counted as 'magic' is it.
Most BRD songs, except the ones with identifiable similar spells. Minuet stacks because you can't just say "Oh that song is just like" whatever, Reraise doesn't stack because it's Reraise.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:20:17
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Sylph.Anjali said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Sylph.Anjali said:
I'm too old skool to appreciate everyone getting dual wield!
My main job is NIN, how do you think I feel?

Same.

I just hope they fill the gap for ninjutsu for ninja. I mean to go from level 48 to 78 with no ninjutsu is just sickening.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:20:44
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Siren.Enternius said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Most BRD songs stack with other things. It's not really counted as 'magic' is it.
Most BRD songs, except the ones with identifiable similar spells. Minuet stacks because you can't just say "Oh that song is just like" whatever, Reraise doesn't stack because it's Reraise.

So one BRD song that doesn't stack, because it wouldn't do anything if it did stack lol.

I'll be very surprised if this doesn't stack with Phalanx.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:24:31
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Sylph.Anjali said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Sylph.Anjali said:
I'm too old skool to appreciate everyone getting dual wield!
My main job is NIN, how do you think I feel?

Same.

I just hope they fill the gap for ninjutsu for ninja. I mean to go from level 48 to 78 with no ninjutsu is just sickening.
And then SE was like "LOLNIN"

That was the biggest disappointment ever.

Everyone's like "Ooh, maybe it's Reraise? That sounds kind of pointless but it will be nice considering they want us to Mijin Gakure more often"

"Oh, maybe it's Enmity+! The name's supposed to mean Lively, that would make perfect sense!"

"Oh that would be awesome! I'm so excited for this spell!"


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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-25 04:25:23
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Yes, let's lower the attack of the target that shouldn't be hitting you in the first place.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-25 04:25:45
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how potent is Aisha?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-25 04:26:56
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
how potent is Aisha?
15%

Even at 50%, it wouldn't be worth even wasting 5k on the scroll.
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