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 Cerberus.Kalyna
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-18 14:03:36
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Siren.Enternius said:
Ramuh.Urial said:

How would you try to consider 13 a FPS? it was RPG, it just wasn't traditional as you would want..
You're right. It was a fast-paced RPG. It takes the worst of both genres. *** yes.
Since when was 13 a FPS?

are you thinking of Dirge of Cerberus?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:04:13
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Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
<3 you guys And I'd like to see some oldschool turn based RPG's come out. I haven't tried XIII yet, no real desire to so I won't comment.
White knight chronicles is the closest i've found for the ps3 so far. Its not too bad once you really figure out how it works. Its a lot like a mmo actually.
Still keepin' an eye out for a cheap PS3

When I buy a slim i'll sell you mine for 100 bucks plus shipping, i have upgraded to a 500 gig hard drive too.
$100 ps3? whats wrong with it o.O
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:04:46
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bleh mis read
but no they just dislike it so they say ***that makes 0 sense.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 14:06:07
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Siren.Enternius said:
The only reason FFXIII got its average ratings is because people are too blinded by the fact that it says "Final Fantasy" on it. Lifetime Squaresoft fans are too self-centered to admit that Square can, and (post-Enix-merge), most likely WILL make bad games.
There's also bitter people like you who refuse to admit that the market for games will change. we aren't blinded, we have just moved past slow *** turn based RPG's.
I'd prefer "slow *** turn based RPG's" than "fast paced FPS"
How would you try to consider 13 a FPS? it was RPG, it just wasn't traditional as you would want. But the market changes that's a fact of life. I wont disown 13 from the FF family, I'll say it's different but I don't hate the changes. I think more or less they were good.

Linear gameplay, No world map, no post-game content, no challenge, no freedom of choice and a mediocre story.

Changes Square enix can really get behind!
No world map, oh QQ you still had travel what's it honestly matter if you have a map. Did you complete the Trials by the way, cause I'd consider that post game content, the only thing you have is less choices because I'd say the story was bad ***. Maybe if you stopped bitching about how it's not turn based and you wanted a map enough to listen then you'd have gotten the story.

The story was simple, it's not exactly hard to grasp. And yes, when Square enix takes a step backward and removes content that all JRPG fans love, and them simply passes it off as 'changes' I get pissed off. I love the Final Fantasy series, and I don't like watching it get bastardised because people are fan-boys and blinded. The trials were easy and took less than 4 hours to do.
4 hours yeahhhhhhhhh k.
Bu w.e you say. I highly doubt you even gave teh game any chance once you popped it in. The same thing most people who hated it said. It's funny though because they trash talk it yet they still completed every aspect of the game. Usually when I hate a game, I stop playing it.

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 14:06:41
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Likers gonna like.
But really, FF13 was a bad game.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-18 14:06:49
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You editted =P
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By Asura.Citag 2010-08-18 14:08:12
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
<3 you guys And I'd like to see some oldschool turn based RPG's come out. I haven't tried XIII yet, no real desire to so I won't comment.
White knight chronicles is the closest i've found for the ps3 so far. Its not too bad once you really figure out how it works. Its a lot like a mmo actually.
Still keepin' an eye out for a cheap PS3
When I buy a slim i'll sell you mine for 100 bucks plus shipping, i have upgraded to a 500 gig hard drive too.
$100 ps3? whats wrong with it o.O

Nothing, it works great. I just like Spence.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:09:03
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Shiva.Flionheart said:

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
If it wasn't titled an FF game would you hate on it near this much, or just because it didn't live up to the perfect image in your head you *** about it?
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-18 14:09:17
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Dr.Laura Schlessinger ending radio show

/beginrant

Dr.Laura Schlessinger is ending her 30-year radio show because she repeatedly used the word *** during an on-air call with a black woman discussing interracial marriage.

You know why she's ending her show? So she can get her First Amendment back.

I wonder how long will it be before black people finally begin to let ***go.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:09:27
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Cerberus.Kalyna said:
You editted =P
poidh
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:10:31
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Asura.Citag said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
<3 you guys And I'd like to see some oldschool turn based RPG's come out. I haven't tried XIII yet, no real desire to so I won't comment.
White knight chronicles is the closest i've found for the ps3 so far. Its not too bad once you really figure out how it works. Its a lot like a mmo actually.
Still keepin' an eye out for a cheap PS3
When I buy a slim i'll sell you mine for 100 bucks plus shipping, i have upgraded to a 500 gig hard drive too.
$100 ps3? whats wrong with it o.O

Nothing, it works great. I just like Spence.
Sounds like you like him a lot /wink wink
Also would it be $100 Canadian or US?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:11:45
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-08-18 14:12:12
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Citag said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Asura.Citag said:
Fairy.Spence said:
<3 you guys And I'd like to see some oldschool turn based RPG's come out. I haven't tried XIII yet, no real desire to so I won't comment.
White knight chronicles is the closest i've found for the ps3 so far. Its not too bad once you really figure out how it works. Its a lot like a mmo actually.
Still keepin' an eye out for a cheap PS3
When I buy a slim i'll sell you mine for 100 bucks plus shipping, i have upgraded to a 500 gig hard drive too.
$100 ps3? whats wrong with it o.O

Nothing, it works great. I just like Spence.
Sounds like you like him a lot /wink wink
Also would it be $100 Canadian or US?

Exchange is pretty even atm I think, shipping would be expensive though
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 14:13:03
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
If it wasn't titled an FF game would you hate on it near this much, or just because it didn't live up to the perfect image in your head you *** about it?

Yes I would. I would compare it to other superior JRPG's. And the same problems still exist whether it's an FF or not. No world map, shallow battle system, shallow development system, barely any post-game content, boring storyline and lack of freedom.

I like a certain degree of linearity in an RPG, but not having any towns with shops, not being able to talk to NPC's, how is that a step forward? In fact it's multiple steps back. The graphics were the one positive, and graphics are the last thing you look for in an RPG.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:14:53
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
If i buy it on launch for 60 play it a few days and sell it for 45-50 I'm not losing much. No more than going out to eat a couple times a week. But yeah you're right seeing as I have so many other things to spend my money on....o wait....
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-08-18 14:15:15
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
I buy all my games and never sell them. Hence why I'm rather picky about the games I buy lol.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-18 14:16:02
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
I haven't rented a game in years xD

God damn compulsive buying

Edit: WAIT

do you consider buying a game at Gamestop then a few months later selling it back as "renting"?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:16:34
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
If it wasn't titled an FF game would you hate on it near this much, or just because it didn't live up to the perfect image in your head you *** about it?

Yes I would. I would compare it to other superior JRPG's. And the same problems still exist whether it's an FF or not. No world map, shallow battle system, shallow development system, barely any post-game content, boring storyline and lack of freedom.

I like a certain degree of linearity in an RPG, but not having any towns with shops, not being able to talk to NPC's, how is that a step forward? In fact it's multiple steps back. The graphics were the one positive, and graphics are the last thing you look for in an RPG.

In that aspect though how many GREAT RPG's have there been since next gen consoles came out( I personally thought LO was a waste of space)
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-18 14:16:44
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
If i buy it on launch for 60 play it a few days and sell it for 45-50 I'm not losing much. No more than going out to eat a couple times a week. But yeah you're right seeing as I have so many other things to spend my money on....o wait....
I usually wait till the price makes its first drop, by then there will be used copies of games I want.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-18 14:17:42
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
If i buy it on launch for 60 play it a few days and sell it for 45-50 I'm not losing much. No more than going out to eat a couple times a week. But yeah you're right seeing as I have so many other things to spend my money on....o wait....
I usually wait till the price makes its first drop, by then there will be used copies of games I want.
If it's a game I'm willing to wait for, I do that too but 99% of the time, i want the game right then and right now.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-08-18 14:18:15
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
If it wasn't titled an FF game would you hate on it near this much, or just because it didn't live up to the perfect image in your head you *** about it?

Yes I would. I would compare it to other superior JRPG's. And the same problems still exist whether it's an FF or not. No world map, shallow battle system, shallow development system, barely any post-game content, boring storyline and lack of freedom.

I like a certain degree of linearity in an RPG, but not having any towns with shops, not being able to talk to NPC's, how is that a step forward? In fact it's multiple steps back. The graphics were the one positive, and graphics are the last thing you look for in an RPG.
In that aspect though how many GREAT RPG's have there been since next gen consoles came out( I personally thought LO was a waste of space)
Going on that, how many great RPGs have there been in the last 10 years?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-08-18 14:18:58
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
If i buy it on launch for 60 play it a few days and sell it for 45-50 I'm not losing much. No more than going out to eat a couple times a week. But yeah you're right seeing as I have so many other things to spend my money on....o wait....
Your gamestop must have a weird policy then. Usually even if you buy it for $60 and come back that same day, you can only sell it back for $30. Unless you're trying to sell it on craigslist or something, you could probably get $55 for it.

But you specifically said gamestop.
My game stop buys it based on how the game is selling more often than not I get 40+ back, if tehy dont offer me ***I pawn it off to my friends for ~50 or craigslist it. In that case I spend no more than I would renting.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-18 14:19:17
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Do you rent all your games first, Urial, or do you buy them?
Buy em, if I don't like the game after a couple days I sell it. Assassin's Creed 3 days worth of playing it and half the story later I sold it to Gamestop.
Yea, I like wasting money too
If i buy it on launch for 60 play it a few days and sell it for 45-50 I'm not losing much. No more than going out to eat a couple times a week. But yeah you're right seeing as I have so many other things to spend my money on....o wait....
Your gamestop must have a weird policy then. Usually even if you buy it for $60 and come back that same day, you can only sell it back for $30. Unless you're trying to sell it on craigslist or something, you could probably get $55 for it.

But you specifically said gamestop.
Depends on what game that gamestop wants you to sell back the most. (idk if all gamestops have the same "Game -- buy back price" list)
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 14:20:40
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:

I was under the impression It would get better. I was wrong. And the only way to accurately judge a game is with hindsight after you've completed the entire game.
If it wasn't titled an FF game would you hate on it near this much, or just because it didn't live up to the perfect image in your head you *** about it?

Yes I would. I would compare it to other superior JRPG's. And the same problems still exist whether it's an FF or not. No world map, shallow battle system, shallow development system, barely any post-game content, boring storyline and lack of freedom.

I like a certain degree of linearity in an RPG, but not having any towns with shops, not being able to talk to NPC's, how is that a step forward? In fact it's multiple steps back. The graphics were the one positive, and graphics are the last thing you look for in an RPG.

In that aspect though how many GREAT RPG's have there been since next gen consoles came out( I personally thought LO was a waste of space)

Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Dragon Quest IX, Star Ocean: Last hope, Demons souls, Dragon Age: Origins, Resonance of Fate, Pokemon Diamond and Pearl etc etc.
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