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 Asura.Korpg
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-08-18 09:17:33
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In response to Krizz's PM to me, I will post a new thread about SMN kiting for you guys.

Also in response to Krizz's PM, I will tell you about how to SMN burn CoP 2-5 (and practically anything else)

3+ SMNs

Yag Drink x1 (it lasts the entire 3 minutes, so you don't really need more than 1)
Ether/Hi-Ether/Super Ether (depending on the level of the SMN determines the number/type of ethers)

Ok, so you are going to burn a mission/fight/whatever. Here is what you do:

First, summon either the avatar of the day (i.e. Ramuh on Thunderday or Fenrir on Darkday, never Carby or Diabolos ever) or Fenrir on an offday (or avatar other than Fenrir on Lightday). If you know what the mob is weak to (i.e. thunder) then summon that element instead, but on missions, its usually the day-of-the-week avatar or Fenrir.

Next, use the Yag Drink

Then, pop Astral Flow (all 3+ SMNs at the same time)

Then, use the BP:R that Astral Flow unlocks (after you sic the avatar at the mob in question of course)

Then, and most imporatant: RUN AWAY FROM THE AVATAR!!!!! Wait until you are a good distance before you stop running

Pop 1-2 ether/hi-ether/you get the picture to get enough MP back for (and this is also very important) 2x the MP as your level (i.e. 80 mp for a 40 SMN, 100 mp for a 50 SMN)

wait either for your avatar to die (depends on situation, since the mob(s) usually attack the avatar that did the first/most damage first) and resummon from very far away or use BP:R again when it comes up.

Usually, you finish the fight with a BP:R to spare, but sometimes it might take all 3 BP:Rs to win.

If you don't finish the mobs before Astral Flow expires.....you usually wipe.

Unless you have a SMN who knows how to kite mobs, which is the next thread coming up.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-08-18 09:19:59
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Rowland said:

Wow, you sure are babysitting a bunch of people. And none of them helped you farm scales?


We had 9 people show up last night. One no show, but he warned me ahead of stuff (college stuff). Only 3 (including my gf) helped farm scales.

We set Wednesday afternoon as scale farming. Several have dynamis, but a few offered to help. We'll see who shows.
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By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2009-08-18 09:21:35
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God, I feel so bad that I'm considering making a Ramuh mule to help out @.@
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-08-18 09:22:55
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Haseyo said:
Sure thing boss. Hopefully these people actually bring items and ***. I'm tired of being the only one that brings yag drinks, potions, RR, etc just to lose.


I craft yag drinks (4 in stock right now) as well as meds. I have a stock of hi-pots / hi-ethers as well. I actually need to do a count and see what I need to replenish.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2009-08-18 09:23:05
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Sectumsempra said:
God, I feel so bad that I'm considering making a Ramuh mule to help out @.@


id go but i conveniently have limbus and in-a-jar to save me from having to offer /whew
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 09:35:07
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Hehe. My shell's recently starting to do CoP Missions in a more organized fashion to help people that need the missions. Fortunately for me, I'm not leading it and am just helping out. =)
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By Odin.Aramina 2009-08-18 09:40:02
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I used to always do 2-5 with NIN, NIN, WHM, Other Healer (WHM, SCH, or RDM), and 2x DD

Have best geared NIN run in, agro all 3 Mammets and Super-kite 2 of them around circle with their WHM support in the middle.

Other NIN pulls 3rd Mammet into beginning of Tunnel and fights it with the DDs and other Healer.

Once that Mammet is dead, Tunnel NIN vokes another of the Mammets and group of 4 works on it while Kiting NIN stops and starts to fight theirs with their WHM.

Normally I was the kiting NIN and would have mine down to about 20% by the time that the other group finished their 2nd one.

NIN's need ALL tools (elemental wheel tears ***to shreds at 40 cap, and the enfeebles are excellent as well).

Make sure the kited ones stay yellow, or the WHM will get hate. NIN should only stop to recast Utsusemi. Keep Haste and Regen on at all times, and cure the piss out of them when they need it.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-08-18 09:40:04
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I got tired of waiting on someone to organize a CoP group. 50% of the people in my group aren't even in my LS.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 09:45:23
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Aramina said:
I used to always do 2-5 with NIN, NIN, WHM, Other Healer (WHM, SCH, or RDM), and 2x DD

Have best geared NIN run in, agro all 3 Mammets and Super-kite 2 of them around circle with their WHM support in the middle.

Other NIN pulls 3rd Mammet into beginning of Tunnel and fights it with the DDs and other Healer.

Once that Mammet is dead, Tunnel NIN vokes another of the Mammets and group of 4 works on it while Kiting NIN stops and starts to fight theirs with their WHM.

Normally I was the kiting NIN and would have mine down to about 20% by the time that the other group finished their 2nd one.

NIN's need ALL tools (elemental wheel tears ***to shreds at 40 cap, and the enfeebles are excellent as well).

Make sure the kited ones stay yellow, or the WHM will get hate. NIN should only stop to recast Utsusemi. Keep Haste and Regen on at all times, and cure the piss out of them when they need it.
Meh. If ya don't do it with 2-3 Smn... I'd just take a pld, 2 healers, and 3 DD. A Monk/Warrior/Samurai/Dragoon/etc. can tank the Mammets pretty well with /nin and they have a lot better DD capability than Ninja. You can bounce hate between the DD's and faster kills = less time for something to go wrong.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-08-18 09:51:46
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Yeah, my gf was on MNK and she was the last to die. I'm assuming you would want /WAR subbed for provoke for all DD's?
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 09:56:29
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Krizz said:
Yeah, my gf was on MNK and she was the last to die. I'm assuming you would want /WAR subbed for provoke for all DD's?
Naah. Don't need /war. Their dmg will keep hate on them as long as they can tank decently.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 09:57:09
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Dasva said:
Ha from windy to selbina with no deaths and only using 1 invis powder on a lvl 5 mule while foruming and chatting on msn

Krizz said:
Dasva said:
Oh and side note just got my lvl 5 mule to jueno with only 1 invis powder yays now to selbina


n00b. I've gotten my mules to Jeuno without using any items. Pure mob dodging. =P

The other day I discovered that my crystal mule (in Windy) isn't actually in his home city... I don't recall running him from Sandy to Windy nor do I know why.

Notice I did so while distracted...
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By Seraph.Chuuuuu 2009-08-18 09:57:39
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Dasva said:

Notice I did so while distracted...

morning das :D /hug
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 09:58:19
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Blms do well on 2-5 as well
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 09:58:32
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Dasva said:
Dasva said:
Ha from windy to selbina with no deaths and only using 1 invis powder on a lvl 5 mule while foruming and chatting on msn

Krizz said:
Dasva said:
Oh and side note just got my lvl 5 mule to jueno with only 1 invis powder yays now to selbina


n00b. I've gotten my mules to Jeuno without using any items. Pure mob dodging. =P

The other day I discovered that my crystal mule (in Windy) isn't actually in his home city... I don't recall running him from Sandy to Windy nor do I know why.

Notice I did so while distracted...
Dasva gets e-peen +1?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 09:58:46
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Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:

Notice I did so while distracted...

morning das :D /hug

Speaking of distractiions herro chuuuuu
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By Seraph.Chuuuuu 2009-08-18 09:59:23
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Dasva said:
Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:

Notice I did so while distracted...

morning das :D /hug

Speaking of distractiions herro chuuuuu

lol sorry for distracting you jeez D:
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 10:02:21
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Rowland said:
Dasva said:
Blms do well on all cop

Fixed.

more fixed
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 10:03:33
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Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:
Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:

Notice I did so while distracted...

morning das :D /hug

Speaking of distractiions herro chuuuuu

lol sorry for distracting you jeez D:

Im not... even with the near death experiences lol
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By Seraph.Chuuuuu 2009-08-18 10:04:47
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bam

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 10:12:24
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Lol yay buying airship pass does work... now my actually lvl 4 mule has it and gobbie 8
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By Seraph.Chuuuuu 2009-08-18 10:12:45
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Dasva said:
Lol yay buying airship pass does... now my actually lvl 4 mule has it and gobbie 8

hax

and bye time for schools x.x
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By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2009-08-18 10:13:03
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Did they fix the blank page?
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 10:15:06
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Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:
Lol yay buying airship pass does... now my actually lvl 4 mule has it and gobbie 8

hax

and bye time for schools x.x
See ya.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 10:17:55
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Chuuuuu said:
Dasva said:
Lol yay buying airship pass does... now my actually lvl 4 mule has it and gobbie 8

hax

and bye time for schools x.x

Seeya later. And yes very expensive hax...
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-08-18 10:34:08
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Sectumsempra said:
Did they fix the blank page?


No. you just probably missed it
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-08-18 10:37:22
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You guys are boring today...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-18 10:38:22
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Psh dont you have a gf to keep you entertained?
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