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 Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 14:31:10
Ramuh.Krizz said: I need to learn more about QD. It's pretty simply. It's pretty much the best source of dmg that cost no mp and gives the mob 0 tp.
It also can be used to enhance the potency of most debuffs.
It's base dmg is just gun+bullet and relic hat. After that standard magic stuff like mab/mdb, day/weather, staffs.
Agi is the main factor in acc and iirc there is still debate about racc and macc in that.
 Shiva.Weewoo
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-02 14:31:36
Ramuh.Krizz said: Thank you for pointing out the obvious. If I wanted to rely on only that, I would've kept my mouth shut. I asked for the opinions of others here.
Shiva.Weewoo said: Ramuh.Krizz said: Someone have a list of subjobs COR would need handy? I don't need the situational details right now, just a rough list.
NIN - utility/survivability
WAR - dmg
RNG - ranged dmg
WHM - support
BLM - QD
RDM - QD & support I need to learn more about QD.
QD works alot like magic. The accuracy of your shots is enhanced by AGI and magic accuracy, but however will not affect your damage outside of helping against resistences. The two things to affect QD damage is your base DMG of your weapon and bullet (even though it doesn't fire off a bullet) and Magic Attack Bonus. Keep in mind that light shot and dark shot are not damaged based and thus strictly rely on accuracy via AGI & magic acc.
Also any direct enhancements such as ones from AF hat and mythic weapon are a must.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 14:31:41
Ramuh.Tousou said: Asura.Ludoggy said: You made me do all this math when Das told me to just use the calculator! >o What can I say? I enjoy making you suffer :O Likes this
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-06-02 14:31:52
Ramuh.Rowland said: Ramuh.Krizz said: Thank you for pointing out the obvious. If I wanted to rely on only that, I would've kept my mouth shut. I asked for the opinions of others here. I added sch to the list Good for you.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 14:33:38
If they open up QD to as a subjob. Especially if they let it work with say bows (or finally give rdm a gun and bullet) I'm gunna be so happy
Shiva.Weewoo
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-02 14:34:25
Ramuh.Dasva said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Unless I read your post wrong Das, it sounds like Bucc wins for bows but not as much for Guns. Am I mistaken? /confused Misread. Bucc wins on dmg and racc for bows unless you are capped or near capped on ratt.
Even more so on guns. Or you happen to cap fstr.
The -emnity is nice however and it is much easier to get
Das I'm still confused about this. You said earlier Scout's pulls ahead on WS, but your given calculations seem to be favoring this. Why would anything else be better if your r.atk is capped if scout's belt itself gives 7?
Ramuh.Krizz
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-06-02 14:37:07
Ramuh.Dasva said: Ramuh.Krizz said: I need to learn more about QD. It's pretty simply. It's pretty much the best source of dmg that cost no mp and gives the mob 0 tp.
It also can be used to enhance the potency of most debuffs.
It's base dmg is just gun bullet and relic hat. After that standard magic stuff like mab/mdb, day/weather, staffs.
Agi is the main factor in acc and iirc there is still debate about racc and macc in that. Shiva.Weewoo said: QD works alot like magic. The accuracy of your shots is enhanced by AGI and magic accuracy, but however will not affect your damage outside of helping against resistences. The two things to affect QD damage is your base DMG of your weapon and bullet (even though it doesn't fire off a bullet) and Magic Attack Bonus. Keep in mind that light shot and dark shot are not damaged based and thus strictly rely on accuracy via AGI & magic acc.
Also any direct enhancements such as ones from AF hat and mythic weapon are a must.
Thanks.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-06-02 14:37:12
From the parses I saw scouts always won.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 14:37:35
Shiva.Weewoo said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Unless I read your post wrong Das, it sounds like Bucc wins for bows but not as much for Guns. Am I mistaken? /confused Misread.
Bucc wins on dmg and racc for bows unless you are capped or near capped on ratt.
Even more so on guns. Or you happen to cap fstr. The -emnity is nice however and it is much easier to get Das I'm still confused about this. You said earlier Scout's pulls ahead on WS, but your given calculations seem to be favoring this. Why would anything else be better if your r.atk is capped if scout's belt itself gives 7? Slow down and reread.
You just quoted me as say bucc will win if your ratt is capped. The obvious reason is cause my math shows that buccaneers gives more to base dmg while scouts gives more ratt. And if ratt isn't doing anything...
And of course if your fstr2 is capped buccaneers is just fail.
But really ratt caps are much higher than att ones. You have a better chance of capping fstr then ratt
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-02 14:40:06
Gotcha, sorry I tend to skim and have selective pick ups when reading. Point being scouts helps assure contact and enhances damage more assuming your r.atk isn't capped. If it is, bucc is greater in enhancing your dmg assuming your fstr2 isn't capped. Right?
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 14:45:26
More or less if one is capped the one that boost that primarily isn't as good. If both or neither are capped then Scouts wins.
If you are using a gun or lol xbow don't even bother with buccaneer if you can get scouts
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-06-02 14:57:57
This is sort of delayed, but the reason Das said Scout's is better for Gun is because fSTR for Ranged is different than for Melee. It only goes off your weapon's DMG, not your ammo too. So fSTR2 cap on Hellfire+1 would be 25, as opposed to 31 on E Bow.
Edit: Meaning you'd need 92 STR to cap fSTR2 on Birds with gun and 98 to cap with Bow. Therefore the STR on Buccaneer's Belt is more valuable if you have the higher fSTR2 cap.
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:01:38
Siren.Enternius said: This is sort of delayed, but the reason Das said Scout's is better for Gun is because fSTR for Ranged is different than for Melee. It only goes off your weapon's DMG, not your ammo too. So fSTR2 cap on Hellfire+1 would be 25, as opposed to 31 on E Bow. Well that too. But there is also the ws mods too. 16%str and 25% agi on bow 0% str and 30% agi gun. Yeah until you cap fstr2 1str still beats 1agi but the ratio between the 2 changes a bit. Like from 3 to 1, to 2 to 1
 Sylph.Spency
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By Sylph.Spency 2010-06-02 15:02:58
BRB I R DO GAME MATHZ
LOL!
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:06:22
Siren.Enternius said: So fSTR2 cap on Hellfire+1 would be 25, as opposed to 31 on E Bow. Edit: Meaning you'd need 92 STR to cap fSTR2 on Birds with gun and 98 to cap with Bow. Therefore the STR on Buccaneer's Belt is more valuable if you have the higher fSTR2 cap. Think you are mixing formulas up. Though not sure how.
Weapon Rank is calculated: floor( Weapon Damage Rating / 9 )
The upper cap of fSTR2 is ( weapon rank+8) x 2
Upper cap value at dSTR = (14 + weapon rank x2) x2
Lolibri vit 67
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-06-02 15:10:18
Ramuh.Dasva said: Siren.Enternius said: So fSTR2 cap on Hellfire 1 would be 25, as opposed to 31 on E Bow. Edit: Meaning you'd need 92 STR to cap fSTR2 on Birds with gun and 98 to cap with Bow. Therefore the STR on Buccaneer's Belt is more valuable if you have the higher fSTR2 cap. Think you are mixing formulas up. Though not sure how.
Weapon Rank is calculated: floor( Weapon Damage Rating / 9 )
The upper cap of fSTR2 is ( weapon rank 8) x 2
Upper cap value at dSTR = (14 weapon rank x2) x2
Lolibri vit 67 How is that wrong then? 42/9 = 4, (4+8)x2 = 24. Okay so I forgot to floor it >.>
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:18:14
Well I meant the other part.
Upper cap value at dSTR = (14 +weapon rank x2) x2= (14+4(7)x2)x2= 44(56)
67vit +44(56)dstr= 111 (123)str
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:25:54
This ferret is getting crafty. If you are around he will try and pretend to fail at climbing up stuff that he will climb up when you aren't looking lol
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By Sylph.Spency 2010-06-02 15:28:52
Ramuh.Dasva said: This ferret is getting crafty. If you are around he will try and pretend to fail at climbing up stuff that he will climb up when you aren't looking lol
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Ferret Bueller >.>
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 Diabolos.Rydiya
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-02 15:34:10
..That name is beginning to fit far too well.
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:45:17
Too bad it's not his name!
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-02 15:46:04
Ramuh.Dasva said: Too bad it's not his name! What IS his name, aside from Ferret?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 15:49:35
Diabolos.Rydiya said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Too bad it's not his name! What IS his name, aside from Ferret? Ham Star!
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-02 15:50:59
Ew.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-06-02 16:42:54
/pokes thread
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2010-06-02 16:44:29
lol we are all entertained by cleverbot!
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By Hades.Cheyne 2010-06-02 16:48:40
Gilgamesh.Alyria said: lol we are all entertained by cleverbot!
This thing sucks.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-02 16:49:00
Hades.Cheyne said: Gilgamesh.Alyria said: lol we are all entertained by cleverbot! This thing sucks. No U
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-06-02 16:55:20
Ramuh.Dasva said: Hades.Cheyne said: Gilgamesh.Alyria said: lol we are all entertained by cleverbot! This thing sucks. No U
No U!
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-02 17:08:20
Ramuh.Krizz said: /pokes thread /bites Krizz
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree
Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present
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Urial 18636 2008-02-09 01:15:03
Spence 18475 2009-05-04 11:26:27
Kalyna 15001 2010-01-21 11:40:04
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Tigerwoods 10807 2007-03-14 21:10:43
Enternius 10382 2007-08-10 04:14:29
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Kojo 9060 2007-06-30 17:46:02
Sevourn 8567 2009-02-10 00:10:20
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