Bahamut.Rumaha said:
I absolutely LOVE WHM/SCH in meripo, they CAN keep everyone hasted and healed and never need MP by themselves, I agree Rdm should /sch but id take Whm/Sch > Rdm/Sch anyway.
For the sake of argument not having any other mp implies that are the only support job. Haste last 3min. Even if you don't haste yourself with light arts that is 180 mp every 3 min. With full timing autorefresh gear and sanction and assuming sublimation is effectively a 2 refresh which it isn't
you will only get 240 mp back in that time. So that leaves you with 20mp/min to spend on healing. So even with penury that is still only about 1 cure 3 a min. So who else is curing your pt cause it aint that whm/sch without any refresh.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
In the bare minimum I still want a WHM doing all the healing, WHEN DO YOU NOT NEED SHELLRA V!?!?!
You are confusing want and need. A large portion of the time phalanx will prevent more dmg than the difference between a fully merited shellraV and shell IV. About he only time it will do more is if the people being hit will be hit with magic dmg that is more than 530 per hit after -magic dmg, resist, and MDB.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
And long fight indicates low man, so you sorta contradicted yourself no? And do you only have 2 ppl in a pt? lol can just have another BRD in the nin/drks pt, and a whm, where the WHM will have Sublimation ballad and the Nin/Drk has ballad and other songs, ever tried rotating people? Works too.
See you agree. You need an
extra brd with that whm just to do the job that the rdm was doing by itself.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Can also have, say you have 2 tannks both are nin/drk, 2 NIN WHM BRD BRD RDM oh hey look at that, idk what else you fit in 6 people in TANK pt, if you have more then 2 tanks well thats kind of a lot for a alleged low man, even 3 tanks 3 TANK RDM WHM BRD, All both of you have said has done NOTHING to refute my original point that WHM is a better healer. If you think anyone heals better then a WHM, and by reading what you are saying, you need to find better WHMs.
That wasn't my tank pt. That was my entire group. So in your purposed whm instead of a sch and lol another brd instead of a blm who exactly is killing the mob in time?
Ok healing.
Which job can throw out amount cured?
Let's see whm/sch effectively 3 refresh and a strat every 2 min and the best efficiency in curing spells.
sch/rdm. Efectively 4 refresh. And twice as many strats. Yeah more mp faster and the ability to lower it more often. Think sch/rdm wins there.
rdm/sch. Says screw effective refresh and gets 5 real refresh. Mp now>mp storing. Not to mention sublimation really fails when you are weakened. Same number of strats as the whm. Less efficient cures made up by 66% more refresh. Also gets a free 800-1000 mp every 10 min.
Dmg prevention
whm/sch. Lol pro V... nvm. Um Shellra V. Nifty especially on magic mobs. Best Barelement nice if your tanks can't break a tier of resist on a mob they are doing that with otherwise mostly useless.
sch/rdm. Phalanx cutting final dmg off by up to 29 at the end. Stoneskinga that last to help get ichi back up and prevent dmg. And actually ability to debuff some to stop mob from doign as much.
rdm. Phalanx again. If /whm still get pretty good barspell due to alot of enhancing gear if you need it. Very potent debuffs. Hell and if things go crazy depending on what you fighting gravity/bind. Definitely solo kited alot of stuff when ***hit the fan and people needed to recover.