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 Lakshmi.Rooks
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-07-10 08:51:17
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if you consider lying to be proper etiquette

Most proper ettiquette is a carefully constructed set of lies, so yeah.
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if you consider lying to be proper etiquette

Most proper ettiquette is a carefully constructed set of lies, so yeah.

Which is why I generally eschew it entirely.

And now for something completely different; we go live to 1994 for a hormone-addled Hoppie's Friday dose of 90s nostalgia.

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 09:15:07
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remo and rooksiepoo..../shakes his head sadly
you two are both hopelessly cram jammed full of absolute horse hockey....

not cursing isn't lying, it's coming up with something more intelligent to say than f bombs every other word.

the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-07-10 09:16:00
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*** that.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-07-10 09:18:06
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
remo and rooksiepoo..../shakes his head sadly
you two are both hopelessly cram jammed full of absolute horse hockey....

not cursing isn't lying, it's coming up with something more intelligent to say than f bombs every other word.

the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.

Tch, I'm on your side here. My only point was that most formal etiquette is a series of social mores built on top of what are fundamentally lies.

Re: cursing, the English language has so many conventional weapons, I don't get why people always have to go nuclear.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 09:31:33
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Morning NI, I hope it finds you bright eyed & bushy tailed.

I called my cable tv provider because one of my tv boxes went plaid... sweet baby jebus

as a professional in the evil technical arts myself, I like to see how other companies handle problems.

yes, I have tried turning it off and back on again, of course I will try it again ten more times, sure I'll go buy a new hdmi cable... 8:00 am on a friday for a service call will be fine. could you ask the technician to bring a replacement box with him? I'm pretty sure it's the box

so I knew it was going to be a long morning when he showed up without a box in his hand...where's the box? I queried.

I'm a service technician not an installer ... leave everything to me!!!

so an hour and a half later he has a new amplifier hooked up and new cables running to the box and as he is sitting there filling out his paperwork

everything goes plaid again.

look, I said, somewhere inside the box is a bad solder joint, when it heats up, it flakes out. I need a new box. I asked customer service to specifically request that the service technician bring a new box....

but the service technician is all flustered. I'm not an installer, customer service has to do this and that I don't know if I have a box I'm late for another appointment...

It wasn't my fault!!!...

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By Rooks 2015-07-10 09:32:01
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Which is why I generally eschew it entirely.

It still has value, it's just important to recognize it for what it is, that's all.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 09:42:30
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
not cursing isn't lying, it's coming up with something more intelligent to say than f bombs every other word.

the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.

Who said I use "***" every other word?

I mean, sometimes, sure. But I'm much more creative with my profanity than that. I mean, when it comes to "***", I'm just going to let Lewis Black say it best: "It's not a word, it's a breath."

I'm quite eloquent when I need to be.

But I do not, by choice, put on masks more frequently than need be.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 09:42:37
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
I'm on your side here. My only point was that most formal etiquette is a series of social mores built on top of what are fundamentally lies.

First of all I don't have a side I would ever allow you to be on.

Second what clap trap did you pull your "lies" theory out of?

You're building a pyramid with proper grammar on top of formal etiquette on a foundation of "social mores" which you believe to be based on lies? so therefore proper grammar itself is a lie? tisk tisk tisk....

your brain, sir, is hopelessly and completely ***
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 09:45:23
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
You're building a pyramid with proper grammar on top of formal etiquette on a foundation of "social mores" which you believe to be based on lies? so therefore proper grammar itself is a lie? tisk tisk tisk....

Ingratiating lies are not a way to live life.




I mean, being polite on a basic level is simply the way you should live.

But "etiquette" is another thing entirely. Emily Post can take the salad fork from whatever the proper side is and cram it where the sun has never laid eyes.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 10:16:49
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Ramyrez said: »
I mean, being polite on a basic level is simply the way you should live.

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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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I mean, being polite on a basic level is simply the way you should live.


I clarified for you so that you were clear that I'm not walking into a bank and saying "***on you for existing, teller, give me my cunting money!"

I thought it was fairly clear but you had to go and get your jimmies rustled about it!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2015-07-10 10:22:43
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.

Or, when used sparingly, it's a great rhetorical device to show extreme emotion!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-07-10 10:25:22
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*** feelz, man!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 10:26:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
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the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.

Or, when used sparingly, it's a great rhetorical device to show extreme emotion!

I went to the henry rollins school of it's far better and a heck of a lot scarier to remain calm when others are screaming obscenities
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-07-10 10:28:06
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
henry rollins school

I would love to see the brochures for that.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-07-10 10:29:44
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
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the only thing cursing conveys is an inferiority complex.

Or, when used sparingly, it's a great rhetorical device to show extreme emotion!

I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-10 10:31:27
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Be quiet.
Sit straight, with legs closed.
Speak politely.
Never interrupt others.
Keep a discreet behaviour.
Laugh softly.
Never raise your voice.
Excuse yourself when leaving.
Bow when greeting.
Don't engage in physical contact.
Eat in small bites, without making noise, with the proper tools.
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Odin.Jassik said: »
I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.

I hear you can use them in the workplace if you want some time off.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 10:32:40
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Be quiet.
Sit straight, with legs closed.
Speak politely.
Never interrupt others.
Keep a discreet behaviour.
Laugh softly.
Never raise your voice.
Excuse yourself when leaving.
Bow when greeting.
Don't engage in physical contact.
Eat in small bites, without making noise, with the proper tools.

I generally don't encourage book burning, but hand me that one, will you?



(Except the last page. Chew with your mouth closed, for ***'s sake.)
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-07-10 10:32:58
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I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.

I hear you can use them in the workplace if you want some time off.

Hasn't worked for me, I've pretty much always been the boss for the last 10 years and now I work from home, lol.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-10 10:33:34
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Not really a book, just rules I've been taught and that I follow to the letter in rl since I was a child.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 10:35:41
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Not really a book, just rules I've been taught and that I follow in rl since I was a child.

I'm aware. And they're all things that are okay and even appropriate. Sometimes.

But they also read like a Victorian how-to for "how to be a lady".
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 10:38:15
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Enough of all of this.

It's Diggy Diggy time.

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-10 10:38:37
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But they also read like a Victorian how-to for "how to be a lady"
Yeah..and I've received all kind of critiques, from looking too snob, to intimidating or sometimes just simply awkward. But I can't seem to be able to correct them, mostly cause "acting natural" isn't natural to me.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 10:43:24
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But they also read like a Victorian how-to for "how to be a lady"
Yeah..and I've received all kind of critiques, from looking too snob, to intimidating or sometimes just simply awkward. But I can't seem to be able to correct them, mostly cause "acting natural" isn't natural to me.

If that's how you're comfortable, it's how you're comfortable.

It's when people try to enforce those things as the way that bothers me. For all the fun things about the Victorian era, their two-faced public/private behavior standards were abhorrent.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-10 10:44:57
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Odin.Jassik said: »
I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.

they are never the best tool to convey a point. curse words don't mean anything but that you have run out of intelligent things to say.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-10 10:47:52
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.

they are never the best tool to convey a point. curse words don't mean anything but that you have run out of intelligent things to say.

This is an argument that will go on ad infinitum if you let it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-07-10 10:48:35
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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I don't agree with shunning an entire subset of the language. I happily use bad words when they are the best tool to convey a point. Sometimes just to end a conversation with a really annoying stranger that can't take a hint.

they are never the best tool to convey a point. curse words don't mean anything but that you have run out of intelligent things to say.

I disagree, somewhat rarely, they are the BEST idea to convey a point. I'm not talking about swearing because you're angry or someone has offended you, I'm talking about more passive aggressive situations.
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