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ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
Tbest said:
Dasva said:
A thf that actually tries to be a good DD can tear birds to shreds. Especially if the other DDs aren't constantly randomly taking hate AND randomly running around the mob
Thats why you need thfs that can SA ws then 30 sec later TA ws. Also peircing against birds rocks. The thing is most thfs really really fail at DDing since most people just really care about mythical TH. I've seen people rather have a Th4 thf that can't hit for any dmg than a TH3 thf that can DD really hard so most don't even try
Rydiya said:
:/ I wish I knew someone on Fenrir to talk to when I'm on my alt, aside from people from my new LS which I hate the name.
Ha! That was my first server. I started playing this game due to RL friends wanting to play it. Of course, that never happened... lousy ingrates!
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
Tousou said:
We chained 160+(I stopped paying attention after that) with NIN, RDM, DRK, SAM, THF, BRD. I brought some Sole Sushi (ie: forgot food) so I was able to wear all my haste gear (ie: Not much). Managed to get about 20k into 75 and 1 merit before we disbanded.
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
Basically you pull before the mob dies and kill it in less then a minute. Back in the day that generally involved roaming around in KRT or sky but new camps respawn fast enough
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
moar dd! and laos brds
Hit chain 116 with a unlikely pt which was me on nin/war sam/nin sam/nin drg/sam whm and brd/nin
Rydiya said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
That doesn't help. I've had similar setups to the above posts. What lvl PTs? Are these at 75?
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
Krizz said:
Rydiya said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
That doesn't help. I've had similar setups to the above posts. What lvl PTs? Are these at 75?
Primarily, Yes. Far better gear opens up then for your DD's to be able to geared better.. Nothing to say they will be capable though.
Tbest said:
Tousou said:
We chained 160+(I stopped paying attention after that) with NIN, RDM, DRK, SAM, THF, BRD. I brought some Sole Sushi (ie: forgot food) so I was able to wear all my haste gear (ie: Not much). Managed to get about 20k into 75 and 1 merit before we disbanded.
If it takes you a large amount of time to position yourself as a thf either the other DDs are screwing you or you fail as a thf. And if you can't pull off a good DE sans SA or TA you still fail seeing as dncs do it all the time.
Krizz said:
Rydiya said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
That doesn't help. I've had similar setups to the above posts. What lvl PTs? Are these at 75?
Rowland said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
You've got a chain 8 or 9 when I was pulling on rng.
Still. The point is not breaking double digit chains.
Ok, so these are primarily at 75. Anything at lower levels?
Edit: Tbest posted while I was reading / typing.
Krizz said:
Rydiya said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
That doesn't help. I've had similar setups to the above posts. What lvl PTs? Are these at 75?
Yeah these are Lv75 parties.
You won't see chains like that in your average exp party.
Krizz said:
Rowland said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
You've got a chain 8 or 9 when I was pulling on rng.
Still. The point is not breaking double digit chains.
Ok, so these are primarily at 75. Anything at lower levels?
I got like chain 100 something on lessers back in the day on my thf. Sad part is I did most the dmg once I got them to setup for SATA DE. Gogo merits letting me use it 2 lvls early. Had to use SH+1 too land it thought /sigh
Dasva said:
Tbest said:
Tousou said:
We chained 160+(I stopped paying attention after that) with NIN, RDM, DRK, SAM, THF, BRD. I brought some Sole Sushi (ie: forgot food) so I was able to wear all my haste gear (ie: Not much). Managed to get about 20k into 75 and 1 merit before we disbanded.
If it takes you a large amount of time to position yourself as a thf either the other DDs are screwing you or you fail as a thf. And if you can't pull off a good DE sans SA or TA you still fail seeing as dncs do it all the time.
Haseyo said:
Krizz said:
Rydiya said:
Krizz said:
ok, will someone tell me how the hell you're getting these high chains on birds? I've been in what I thought were good PTs, but yet have never reached higher than chain 6 or something like that. Please?
:/ Merit camps?
To get #100+ You need a fast, attentive Bard, and GOOD DDs.
That doesn't help. I've had similar setups to the above posts. What lvl PTs? Are these at 75?
Yeah these are Lv75 parties.
You won't see chains like that in your average exp party.
If done properly at mamoolja on sea puks/mamools you can build a 73-75 exp pt that will get up to chain 100 but its fast paced and gets boring hella quick.
Tbest said:
Thief just requires too much timing/positioning to be an effective DD in a TP-Burn Merit Party. When a mob dies in seconds and you don't have Meditate or the ability to do large amounts of dmg w/o perfect timing/poitioning... You're not a very worthwhile addition to the party in my opinion.
With Kard mainhanded I could DE from 600-1k(3x proc for 1k) without SA or TA, and that dagger is crap. I'm sure a well-geared THF could do a shitton better. In addition, lining up a SA or TA isn't all that difficult unless someone is running circles around the mob for no reason, or moves cause they're too chicken to take hate.
That being said, I do agree with you for the most part. We probably aren't gonna be "Top-notch" or even set for a "Perfect" party, but we aren't completely worthless either.
Alright, thanks. If anyone plans on building a PT this afternoon, let me know. I want 74.
Lunch time.
Lunch time.
That's why I don't merit that often anymore. It's super boring, I'd rather spam campaign battle.
Haseyo said:
That's why I don't merit that often anymore. It's super boring, I'd rather spam campaign battle.
Hell yeah campaign on my nin/dnc is fun as hell :)
Fact of the matter is... If you're not making the party, you won't get invited as Thief if there's a better option available. I have played Thief a TON and have Thief at 75 w/ TH4, Blau, Homam, etc. But... I'm going to invite a Samurai, Dragoon, or Warrior to a merit party on birds before I invite you a Thief. >.>
Tousou said:
Tbest said:
Thief just requires too much timing/positioning to be an effective DD in a TP-Burn Merit Party. When a mob dies in seconds and you don't have Meditate or the ability to do large amounts of dmg w/o perfect timing/poitioning... You're not a very worthwhile addition to the party in my opinion.
With Kard mainhanded I could DE from 600-1k(3x proc for 1k) without SA or TA, and that dagger is crap. I'm sure a well-geared THF could do a shitton better. In addition, lining up a SA or TA isn't all that difficult unless someone is running circles around the mob for no reason, or moves cause they're too chicken to take hate.
That being said, I do agree with you for the most part. We probably aren't gonna be "Top-notch" or even set for a "Perfect" party, but we aren't completely worthless either.
Yeah seriously I can hit 1k DE without SA TA on non peircing weak mobs easy. And really its not that hard to line up really. And even if I can only get TA action out thats still pretty good. Still can do SA ever 5 min gogo hide. But really a thf has to be on his game and well geared to do good. Unlike other DDs he can't just go /attack /ws rinse repeat
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