The Mentally Disabled State Of Texas (Loud And Clear)

From a purely mathmatical standpoint you could say they are within the same magnitude of each other but they are not on par. There is roughly a 12% difference between TX and Australia. For GDP numbers these do not easily converge, except in emerging economies. (China grew 7.8% in 2012. US grew 2.2% in 2012)

There is $165 billion gap between the two.

Can't we all just rag on Florida?

Yeah, I mean who would want to do business in an independent republic with no EPA or ADA regulations, no federal labor laws, no world's highest corporate taxes, no federal unions or 0bamacare?...

Oh yeah, EVERYONE.

I think you need to take some finance and economic courses. Businesses aren't in the business of putting money in uncertain areas/projects unless they get a hell of a return premium on their investment. TX would be an uncertain quantity without the backing of the US political, legal, and monetary system.

Any state in the US that talks about leaving the US is seriously delusional unless they are prepared to try and restart their economy from the ground up.

Or they'll say it directly to your face in the form of the utterance of the "sweetheart" Southern back-hand. That's more of a test to see if you have to have someone mentally hold your hand from point A to point B. You have to pick up on the queues. :P

Or "bless her heart" :)

Hey! Hey! Destin is nice and The Keys. Ummm...Disney World, right? =D

The double-edge sword is that there are numpties in every state, but there are many redeemable qualities in most. You just need to discover them for yourself.

EDIT: I understand the complaints about this state, and if you're so delusional as to think they're not the same concerns within a portion of the populous here, I don't know what to say.

Perry's been pulling this state down for over a decade now. How he continually gets elected, I have no idea. Many people don't. 2008 was rough and indicative of how Perry prioritizes. Education comes last. You can talk to any teacher or administrator here, and they'll gladly give you an ear full.

Even the West incident earlier this Spring was an unfortunate reminder of Perry's incompetence.

DOUBLE EDIT: No one is seceding, so can we get off that train?

Finally, somebody who understands the economic consequences of leaving the US!

I never said it should secede, I was just simply stating that if it were to be an independent country, its GDP would be top 15

So why aren't you living in China yet?

I kid, I kid.

*rags on Cerberus*

That's only under the assumption that it would retain it's current economic businesses as the primary Defense contractor for the United States. With 25 military bases having to be removed, and the soldiers/techs/etc. that occupy them, that's a huge chunk of the economy lost.

As stated earlier, the state would also have to develop it's own form of globally accepted currency, since it would no longer use the American greenback. And that requires it's own capital to design, print, and distribute.

It would have an even harder time trading with the states around it, let alone shipping goods to other countries. It would effectively ruin the state of Texas to become and independent entity, separate from the United States.

When you antagonize crazy *** who you know will probably kill you if you cross them, yes I don't have any sympathy.

No, I'm not saying it's right, but the entire point was she's a *** dumbass; or was a dumbass I should say. I still think the guy should be put behind bars or death penalty if it's in that state etc.


I didn't say he was/should be allowed to. I said I think he deserves to be in jail. If she wasn't a moron she would have just given him the money back.

His behavior was 100% wrong. Not defending him at all. Just calling her a tard for her behavior.

I guess I just don't follow that kind of logic, seeing as I'm not such an enlightened person. Having read the story, the escort was paid for services. Some dipshit crazy *** decided to shoot her, after paying her what he owed for services rendered, decided he wanted sex, she wouldn't consent to it, and he shot her. his lawyer claimed he was only trying to retrieve what was later perceived as stolen property, though it wasn't stated in the police report.

In that sense, anyone you make eye contact with in public could be considered some crazy *** because you don't know them. You could then end up being the victim of something similar and you'd be at fault for being some retard who made eye contact with a crazy person. By your own logic, of course.

It's more like don't stick your hand in an aligator's mouth. It's not right taht you get bitten, but damned if I'm going to feel bad for you for doing it.

She did nothing wrong, but she was stupid.

Based on the OP alone, I'm assuming no services were rendered to begin with.

W/o enough info only thing I can assume is she took his money for escort services, then he said what he wanted, she said no I don't do that, then he tried to get his money back but she was like *** that.

Just from the OP doesn't seem like the kinda thing that he paid her to go on a date w/ him then at the end of it was like okay let's *** now and she refused and if that were the case, I'd feel sorry for her.

Scenario A: He should be punished; she's a retard

Scenario B: He should be punished; She's still dumb, but not as much so and okay I feel sorry for her now.

In neither scenario do I condone his actions. He should be executed, really, one less person to contribute to our overpopulation; again, simply calling her a dumbass as well


Edit: Basically, I look as her as the bystander in a bank robbery who either doesn't listen to the person pointing a gun at them or yells out *** you to them, etc.

I love my southern grandmother because She will invite the neighbors over for dinner and be super sweet and then talk about all of the dumb ***they do as SOON as they are gone.

Cracks me up.

Gossip, #1 sport of the South.

You typically hire an escort for "time spent" so technically there was no stolen property/theft.

Reminds me of that scene from Tropic Thunder:

Actually I DID live in China before.

As for Texas and uncertainty, how do you think that uncertainty would be compared to the uncertainty there is now, or the certainty that states like CA are horrible for business? The contention was that industries would LEAVE, not about full investment. Businesses have faith in the Texas economy just as sure as there are doubts to the future of the US dollar backed by the IOU's of increasingly irresponsible presidents.

You killed Amanda? Relax that probably wasnt even her real name

My favorite part of Tropic Thunder is when Downy Jr turns and says "You're the dude that plays a dude dressed up as another dude" and "You never go full retard"

Really comparing red and blue state economies? Sounds a lot like Mitt Romney's criticism of the CA economy. CA is one of the few states that could secede from the nation and survive independently. The ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles provide a huge advantage over TX in trade. CA boasts an impressive higher-education system(Stanford, Berkeley, CalTech, UCLA, UCSF, USC) which attracts technology and biomedical. There is also CA's gigantic immigrant work-force, which contributes significantly to the CA economy.


California v. Texas in fight for the future - Reuters

Wait, did you actually say that Texas doesn't have or doesn't have much of an immigrant work-force?

....seriously?

EDIT: Obviously immigrant population is high in the South-Western US, I was just highlighting how that factor contributes to the CA economy. If you want to compare the two populations. CA has a larger immigrant population(both illegal and legal).

How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in Your State?

U.S. state with the largest immigrant population: is it California?

California also has the highest poverty rate among all ethnic classes.

How will that contribute to CA's ability to perform independently?

Besides, I'm sure that if CA goes, so does all of Hollywood. You will have to admit that Hollywood and the movie/TV/music industries play a very significant role in CA's economy. Take that away, and CA becomes a third world country.

Poverty is kinda a given considering the size of it's population...regardless of its poverty rate CA has the highest GDP in the nation.

I'm not sure the impact of TV/film on the state's economy, however, I fail to see how "Hollywood" would vanish by a secession.

Not all at once, but when higher taxes and no more tax preferences take over, then you will see them abandon ship faster than you can say "bad review."

Plus, there would be a lot of uncertainty and confusion at first, and Hollywood's message against the rich will backfire on them when they are the only rich in that nation.

They will leave. There is absolutely no loyalty to one's state in CA.

Taxes would probably be less, since CA has one of the highest federal burdens. But again your highlighting one, industry. CA gives more to the US than it receives.

Wait a second. It must be the exhaustion, but I don't think I quite understand that statement. Can you please elaborate further?

I mean, how can CA have less taxes when it has such a high federal burden. If I am understanding this correctly, you are saying that the federal government pays for a significant portion of CA's infrastructure (which you also pointed out in a previous post), but if CA leaves the union, you say that taxes will be less?

Taxes will be less when it loses a significant portion of it's funds from an outside source?


Lets go with food production. CA has significant agriculture, so they won't be too worried about food. Might have to get taxed on food that CA doesn't produce, but all well.

USA won't lose much food production, since CA's crops and beef can come from other states. So in that case, CA loses.

Manufacturing. CA doesn't produce much because high number of unions and business unfriendly atmosphere. So, they would have to import most of their stuff. CA can trade technology (assuming that Silicon Valley doesn't move) so I guess we can call that even.

USA won't lose much from manufacturing, in fact, they can benefit from the trade because the import/export ratio will even itself out if USA exports to California. So, in that aspect, USA wins because of the trade imbalance that we already have in place.

Lastly, because I want to keep this short and go to bed soon, lets look at energy. CA is one of the most unfriendly states when it comes to energy, so there will be MASSIVE energy shortages if they keep their energy policies in place. Assuming so, energy will be very expensive for the residents. Plus, there are not that many oil wells in CA, so they would have to import most, if not all of their energy needs. Solar can only go so far, and wind much much less.

USA can have a new export partner, so the rest of the USA can benefit from lower prices with less demand than CA. Plus, with CA out of the way, there goes a major strongarm of the EPA, so business friendly policies will (at the least) keep energy prices from rising higher more rapidly or (at the most optimistic) might even go down. Plus, additional revenue from tariffs because of the new export partner.

USA would win out a lot from kicking CA out of the union, but I'm not suggesting we should. There would be a lot of federal tax dollars lost because of CA's rich (as long as they would stay in CA and not move to a more tax friendly nation if they are 'evicted' from the USA) are not paying federal taxes anymore. Among other things (I'm tired, so bite me).

I would like to see a well thought out response when I wake up.

Good night.

Ok your really tangenting my posts, which is ultimately TX vs CA. My posts were never to create a hypothetical CA secede thread, but rather to highlight how strong its economy is. , which has been said numerous times. Just google it.

Ive already listed several facts/links and the GDP of the states. If that and the links aren't sufficient I don't know what else to say to you.

Why does everyone present Environmental Protection and Worker's Rights as not being "business friendly". They are obstacles to an at-will totalitarian business enterprise. Explain to me how protecting the environment from companies dumping hazardous chemicals into streams because its cheaper and running pseudo minimum wage sweatshops not "business friendly".

Integrity - Doing the right thing even when nobody is watching.