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Final Fantasy - The Best and Worst?
Cerberus.Kylos
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 12:48:33
As I sit here during the maintenance, I would like to begin an idea I conjured up while working. Simply put, I would like to find out what everyone believes are the absolute best and worst aspects of the Final Fantasy series.
I watched some youtube videos last night, and it seems a lot of the "Top 5" videos are pretty biased, as some youtube users like different FF more then others.
When it comes to FF, I am good at being unbiased. I can admit to playing FF1, 2, 12 and 13 without clearing them, while completing the following titles: FF Mystic Quest, FF 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 DOC, 8, 9, 10, and 10-2. I would love to include FFXI in this, as anyone who makes a list of the series best and worst tends to leave it out for some unknown reason... like they don't want it to exist??
I can admit to never playing FF3, 13-2, Crisis Core or any other I have not listed, so help may be needed on those.
So you may be thinking, how will we decide? What aspects of the game should we look into? Below is a list of questions that I would like to see answered.
- The best game?
- The best lead character?
- The best support character? (Basically any good character who you can party with, who is NOT the lead character. I do not mean support like a Mage.)
- The most evil villain?
- The game with the best music?
- The game with the best battle and level system?
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
- The hardest boss fight ever?
- The rarest item ever?
- The rarest fight?
- The hardest weapon to make?
- The best main storyline?
- The worst main storyline?
- The best jobs?
- The worst jobs?
- The most pointless quests ever?
- The hardest quests to complete?
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
- The hardest end boss?
- The most useful magic spell ever?
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
- The best mini-game?
- The worst mini-game?
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.)
- The best damage dealing character
- The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.)
Can you think of anymore??? If you can, let me know and I shall add it to the list.
I will reserve a post below to show the results, so you people do not have to go looking for them. Also I would like to ask these questions randomly (maybe more then one at a time) and keep them up until we have a sufficient answer. You can simply vote on what you feel is right, and by explaining your answers, you may encourage others to agree with you and vote the same way.
Cerberus.Kylos
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 12:49:05
The Results
Weakest Party Character - Edward Chris von Muir (FFIV)
The Evilest Villain - Kefka Palazzo (FFVI)
Hardest End Boss - Cloud of Darkness (FFIII)
Best Summons - Bahamut, Shiva, Knights of the Round, Odin
Best Special Abilities - Limit Breaks
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Worst Job Classes - Mime, Animist
Most Useful Magic Spell - Any form of "Cure"
Hardest Weapons To Obtain - Mythics (FFXI), Tournesol (FFXII), Excalibur II (FFIX)
Hardest Boss Fights
FFI - Warmech
FFII - Emperor (End Boss)
FFIII - Cloud of Darkness (End Boss)
FFIII(DS) - Iron Giant
FFIV - Zeromus (End Boss)
FFIV(GBA/PSP) - Zeromus EG
FFIV(DS) - Proto-Babil
FFV - Neo Shinryu
FFVI - Kaiser Dragon
FFVII - Ruby Weapon
FFVIII - Omega Weapon
FFIX - Ozma
FFX - Nemesis (Penance for PAL/International versions)
FFX-2 - Trema
FFXI - Absolute Virtue (Pre-ZNM), Pandemonium Warden (Until update and level cap increase)
FFXII - Yiazmat/Omega
FFXIII - Barthandelus/Brynhildr
FFXIII-2 - Caius Ballad/Yomi
FFT - Velius
Rarest Fights
FF1 - Warmech
FFII - Iron Giant
FFIII - Dragons in Crystal Tower
FFIV - Flan Princess
FFV - Stingray
FFXI - Voluptuous Vilma, Defoliate Leshy
FFXII - Red Chocobo (99)
FFXIII-2 - Xolotl, Miquiztli, Tezcatlipoca
Rarest Items
Pink Tail (FFIV) - Used to make Adamant Armor, but only drops from Flan Princess 1/64 times, and the battle appears 1/64.
Onion Equipment (FFIII) - The best equipment in the game, drops from Dragons in the Crystal Tower, however dragons are rare, and the drop rate is also low (1-8% depending on piece).
Best Mini-Games
Gold Saucer games (FFVII)
Tetra Master (FFIX)
Worst Mini-Games
Jump Rope (FFIX)
Most Useful Glitches
Item Duplication
Valefor.Sehachan
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 12:59:00
I'll just answer a few. I expect this thread to turn into a bloody war.
- The best game? 11!
- The best lead character? Zidane
- The most evil villain? Kefka
- The game with the best battle and level system? 9, tactic series
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) The End ofc
- The best main storyline? 9
- The worst main storyline? 12
- The best jobs? dragoon
- The worst jobs? animist
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Bahamut, Carby, Shiva, Levi, Quetzy, Odin, Famfrit, Tonberry
- The best mini-game? Blitzball
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Bismarck.Misao
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 22620
By Bismarck.Misao 2013-04-29 13:00:41
- The best game?
FF6
- The best lead character?
Zidane
- The best support (Party) character?
Celes
- The most evil villain?
Kefka
- The game with the best music?
FF Theatherythm
- The game with the best battle and level system?
not FF2
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
idk
- The hardest boss fight ever?
Ruby Weapon FF7
- The rarest item ever?
idk
- The rarest fight?
idk
- The hardest weapon to make?
idk
- The best main storyline?
idk
- The worst main storyline?
ff14
- The best jobs?
whm
- The worst jobs?
whm
- The most pointless quests ever?
idk
- The hardest quests to complete?
the 100 floor magic tower
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
Knights of the round FF7
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
idk
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
that spoony bard
- The hardest end boss?
idk
- The most useful magic spell ever?
Ultima or Cure
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
Shiva
- The best mini-game?
Gold Saucer Choco racing
- The worst mini-game?
FF8's card game
Cerberus.Tikal
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-04-29 13:12:32
- The best game? Final Fantasy Tactics
- The best lead character? Ramza / Cloud (I know Cloud gets a shitty rap for being emo, but I recently played the game again and he's not as emo as they make him out to be in Advent Children. He's a pretty well rounded character, but his speech patterns are all over the place.)
- The best support (Party) character? Tifa, story-wise
- The most evil villain? Delita is the most evil in the human sense of the word. Supernaturally, I'd say Kefka.
- The game with the best battle and level system? FFT
- The hardest boss fight ever? Weigraf / Velius, at least when I was unprepared for it in my first play-through years ago.
- The hardest weapon to make? Excalibur II / That FFXII weapon
- The best main storyline? FFT
- The worst main storyline? FFXII
- The best jobs? My favorite jobs are: Archer, Lancer, Knight, Monk, Chemist
- The worst jobs? Mime
- The hardest quests to complete? Excalibur II, FFIX
- The biggest spam move ever? Lion Heart
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? W-item
- The weakest party character ever? Aeris (Super low HP, high magic but Materia reduces HP and offense further, forcing her into a niche in a game where characters are defined only by their limit breaks.)
- The most useful magic spell ever? Big Guard
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Bahamut Form Zero is my favorite, but not the best by far. Single hit, after all.
- The best mini-game? FFIX chocobo garden
- The worst mini-game? FFVII chocobo raising
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Cerberus.Kylos
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:12:33
Before people start making huge lists, let me say once again, it is much better if each question is tackled in a proper way. I will be making a post for the first question very soon! I just need to do a little research first so it looks like I know what I'm talking about :p
In this manner we can have discussions, and come to an agreement on the final answer based on the majority of votes. (I wish I could just make a poll, it would be much easier)
Bismarck.Faelar
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4108
By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-29 13:13:04
My list, my opinions.
- The best game?
Final Fantasy VI. Fantastic storyline, great characters, fun battle system. Very memorable.
- The best lead character?
Cecil (FFIV). The most levelheaded, honest, noble character.
- The best support (Party) character?
Rosa
- The most evil villain?
Kefka. The Final Fantasy version of Road Warrior. Crazy *** ends the world halfway through the game. Sephiroth tried, but failed at the end of the game. Kefka did it halfway through! Kudos, sir.
- The game with the best music?
Final Fantasy X. Simply amazing soundtrack. My favorite is the song that plays as you are exploring the Zanarkand Ruins. I forget what its titled.
- The game with the best battle and level system?
Final Fantasy X. The Sphere Grid allowed for full customization, and if you played as long and were diligent enough, you could erase the +2 stat nodes and replace them with +4 stat nodes like I did! Played FFX waaaaaay too much a few years back.
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives,
Trance etc.)
As much as I hate to say it.....Omnislash.
- The hardest boss fight ever?
Yiazmat (FFXII). If you don't use Decoy+Reverse....be ready for several hours of pain.
- The rarest item ever?
PINK TAIL UUUGGGGGHHHH that ***NEVER drops!
- The rarest fight?
Still thinking.
- The hardest weapon to make?
Tournesol (FFXII).
- The best main storyline?
Final Fantasy IV
- The worst main storyline?
Final Fantasy II
- The best jobs?
Freelancer (FFV) That ***can do it all.
- The worst jobs?
Geomancer (FFV) Too dependent on terrain, though it's useful in certain areas.
- The most pointless quests ever?
Too many to list...
- The hardest quests to complete?
Card Queen Quest (FFVIII). Random card rules makes this unbearable ><
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly
for an advantage)
Knights of the Round + Mime. So much cheese.
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
Um....can't think of any I used.
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can
"control" in a party)
Edward (FFIV). OH GOD IMMA HIDE WHEN I NEED TO HEAL OR SOMETHING USEFUL.
- The hardest end boss?
Kefka
- The most useful magic spell ever?
Cure (DURR). How far would you get on potions alone?
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
Jury's still out on this one.
- The best mini-game?
Triple Triad. Fun and easy to pickup, yet hard to master.
- The worst mini-game?
Chocobo Racing, *** that noise.
Valefor.Sehachan
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 13:15:17
Ok, I'll start the flamewar:
- The best support (Party) character?
Rosa Seriously???
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-04-29 13:16:21
- The best game?
FF6
- The best lead character?
Cecil (FF4)
- The best support (Party) character?
Auron
- The most evil villain?
Kefka
- The game with the best music?
FF6
- The game with the best battle and level system?
FFX
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
Omnislash (FF7)
- The hardest boss fight ever?
Emerald Weapon (FF7)
- The rarest item ever?
LuLu's final weapon
- The hardest weapon to make?
Lulu's final weapon
- The best main storyline?
FF6
- The worst main storyline?
FF13, 13-2.
- The best jobs?
Blue Mage
- The most pointless quests ever?
All of them?
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
Quick Hit (FFX)
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
Cait Sith (FF7)
- The hardest end boss?
None?
- The most useful magic spell ever?
Haste
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
Yojimbo (FFX)
- The best mini-game?
Blitzball (FFX)
- The worst mini-game?
Blitzball (FFX-2)
Bismarck.Faelar
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4108
By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-29 13:20:43
Ok, I'll start the flamewar:
- The best support (Party) character?
Rosa Seriously???
2 words: White Mage.
Plus I'm a little biased because FFIV is my absolute favorite.
All I could think of at the moment. I'm sure I missed several, I'm just too tired to think right now.
Serveur: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2011
By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-04-29 13:22:37
- The best game? FF6.
- The best lead character? Cecil Harvey or Ramza Beoulve.
- The best support (Party) character? Kain Highwind.
- The most evil villain? Kefka, no contest.
- The game with the best music? FF6.
- The game with the best battle and level system? Final Fantasy Tactics.
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) Limit breaks.
- The hardest boss fight ever? Yiazmat.
- The best main storyline? FF6.
- The worst main storyline? FF2.
- The best jobs? Dragoon, Samurai, Paladin, Red Mage, White Mage.
- The worst jobs? Black Mage, Monk, Ranger.
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage) That one move in FF5 where you could attack four times
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party) Edward from FF4
- The hardest end boss? Zeromus in the PS1 version
- The most useful magic spell ever? Cure?
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Knights of the Round is really badass. Also Eden.
- The best mini-game? Tetra Master/Triple Triad.
- The worst mini-game? MOTHERFUCKING BLITZBALL SERIOUSLY *** THAT ***
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-04-29 13:23:37
Ok, I'll start the flamewar:
- The best support (Party) character?
Rosa Seriously???
Lol thats the biggest debate, I just made a safe pick, but its a huge list of great supporting characters...Rydia, Locke, Tifa, Vincent, Vivi, Auron...list kinda stops at 10..Final Fantasy has taken a dive in character quality recently.
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Serveur: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 90
By Ragnarok.Deathshift 2013-04-29 13:23:52
- The best game? 6
- The best lead character? Zack
- The best support (Party) character? Adelle (FFTA2)
- The most evil villain? Kefka
- The game with the best music? Crisis Core
- The game with the best battle and level system? FFT/FFTA/FFTA2
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) Grand Lethal
- The hardest boss fight ever? Minerva (Crisis Core)
- The rarest item ever? Economizer
- The hardest weapon to make? I don't know if I would consider it the hardest, but Zidane's Ultima Weapon was extremely annoying to get. <_>
- The best main storyline? 6
- The worst main storyline? 8
- The best jobs? Nightshade / Heritor
- The hardest end boss? Cloud of Darkness
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Ark (FF9)
- The best mini-game? Tetra Master
- The worst mini-game? Chocobo Hot and Cold
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Bismarck.Faelar
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4108
By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-29 13:24:44
Now when you say Support, do you mean support as in a movie sense (like a supporting actor) or a support as in overall usefulness to the party?
Cerberus.Kylos
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:24:49
The most Evil Villain in all of Final Fantasy?
What makes a true villain? Is it power? Is it insanity? Or is it a combination of a lot of things, put together like an elegant dish that may be served as cold or hot as you like?
Lets list some of these antagonists. Of course, if I have not listed any, then you may tell me and I will add it.
Click the spoiler for the list.
Final Fantasy
Garland - The first boss of the game, he used to be a loyal knight, but he has betrayed Cornelia and kidnapped Princess Sara. He is the main villain of the game.
Four Fiends - Four Demons representing the four elements: earth, water, fire, and wind. They capture the four Crystals and steal their light, causing chaos in the world.
Chaos - The demon king, created when Garland merges with the essences of the four fiends. He is the one causing the time loop. Final boss of the game.
Final Fantasy II
Borghen - The Emperor's general and a former noble of Fynn turned traitor.
The Dark Knight - Maria's brother Leon, working for the Emperor.
The Emperor - The ruler of Palamecia. He comes back to life after dying by fusing with the dark powers of Hell, thus becoming the ruler of Hell himself. He is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy III
Gutsco - A rogue appears in the Subterranean Lake and has stolen one of the Dwarves' Horns of Ice.
Hein - A monster that cast a spell on the elder tree, causing it to float and renamed it Castle Hein. He also imprisoned and bewitched all of the Castle Argus's inhabitants in Castle Hein, as well as terrorizing neighboring Tokkul.
Xande - A pupil to the great Archmage Noah. Xande was given the gift of mortality from his master. However, he couldn't handle this, and so set out to get back his immortality. He is the main villain of the game.
Guardians of the Dark Crystals- A Group of Creatures sent by the Cloud of Darkness to guard the Dark Crystals of the World of Darkness and kill the Warriors of Light.
Cloud of Darkness - Appears whenever there is an imbalance between light and darkness, to return everything to a world of nothingness. Final boss of the game.
Final Fantasy IV
Baigan - Baron's captain of the Royal Guards. He betrays his kingdom to gain more power.
Dr. Lugae - An insane scientist that follows Golbez, and performs experiments on humans to serve his own purposes. He turns Edge's mother and father into monsters.
Archfiends - The four fiends were Golbez's minions, each of which battled the heroes at least two times. Their names were inspired by names of devils in Dante's Inferno. They are Scarmiglione, Cagnazzo, Barbariccia, and Rubicante.
Golbez - Cecil's brother who was under the control of Zemus. Golbez took command of the Red Wings airship fleet attacked the world in an attempt to steal the Crystals and summon the Giant of Babil.
Zemus - A Lunarian who hates humans, and believes that the Lunarians should annihilate the humans and take over Earth. He can control people's minds, and after he dies, his hate manifests into a creature called Zeromus. He is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy IV
FF4PSP-
Mysterious Girl - a powerful girl who slightly resembles Rydia. She is gathering the eight Crystals for an unknown reason.
Kain? - the evil side of Kain Highwind who joins the Mysterious Girl in her plot to retrieve the Crystals.
Dark Knight - much like Kain's evil side, Cecil's has reappeared. He attempts to deceive Ceodore and his family, and kill the party.
The Creator - the original creator of the Crystals who seeded them on many worlds to create life, it has deemed the inhabitants of the Blue Planet as evolutionary failures that must be destroyed.
Final Fantasy V
Gilgamesh - One of Exdeath's minions. He searches for Excalibur, but ends up with Excalipur instead.
Demons of the Rift - Thirteen powerful fiends sealed in the Void and released by Exdeath to destroy the Warriors of Light.
Exdeath - A warlock born of a tree infused with evil spirits. He wishes to take control of the Void and consume the world with it. He is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy VI
Ultros - A wisecracking, carnivorous octopus whom the party encounters throughout the game. He follows them to get revenge for his rising number of defeats, as well as to try and devour them, but eventually gets a job working at the colosseum and gives up his chase.
Gestahlian Empire - Led by Emperor Gestahl, the Empire seeks the power of magic to control the world, and has developed Magitek as a result of their research into Espers.
Kefka Palazzo - An experimental Magitek Knight driven insane by his augmentation. Kefka develops a hatred of everything and begins acquiring power on his own while serving Gestahl. He is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy VII
Shinra - The power company that controls the world. Shinra extracts life energy from the planet for profit and has conducted a series of genetic experiments involving this energy. Staff members include the Turks and President Rufus Shinra.
Professor Hojo - Shinra's top scientist and Sephiroth's father who conducted a number of experiments with Jenova's cells on his son, leading to the development of SOLDIER.
Jenova - The Calamity from the Skies, Jenova fell to the planet long ago and attempted to destroy it. Her cells are used by Shinra to create members of SOLDIER.
Sephiroth - The first and strongest SOLDIER, who desires to merge with the planet's life-force and become a god by destroying most of the world with Meteor. He is the main villain of the game.
Before Crisis -Final Fantasy VII-
Fuhito - A twisted scientist for AVALANCHE who is using the Materia embedded in the back of his commander, Elfé's hand to destroy humanity and return them to the Planet.
Zirconiade - an ancient Summon with the power to destroy the world.
Dirge of Cerberus -Final Fantasy VII-
Professor Hojo - Having uploaded his consciousness into a large computer network, Hojo later fuses with the Deepground Soldier Weiss. He hopes to summon the Omega Weapon, to start life over again.
Tsviets - The leading warriors of Deepground. They have no idea that they are actually being controlled by Hojo.
Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII-
Dr. Hollander - Scientist who worked on the Project G side of the Jenova Project that created Genesis and Angeal Hewley. Joined with his creation when Genesis defected from Shinra.
Angeal Hewley - A mentor and friend of Zack who joins Genesis in his rebellion against Shinra to cure himself.
Genesis Rhapsodos - A SOLDIER defector and product of the Jenova Project who is at war with Shinra to stop his slow degradation and fulfill the words of LOVELESS.
Sephiroth - A SOLIDER 1st class who is driven insane by the revelation of his creation, spurred on by the words of Genesis about Jenova's true nature.
Final Fantasy VIII
Edea Kramer - A Sorceress possessed by Ultimecia. Ultimecia uses her body to terrorize the world and search for Ellone using Galbadia's military.
Seifer Almasy - Squall Leonhart's rival and a rejected SeeD candidate. Seifer is dedicated to being a Sorceress Knight and serves as commander of the Galbadians under Edea.
Ultimecia - A Sorceress from the future who possesses and manipulates people from the past in order to achieve Time Compression. She is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy IX
Queen Brahne - The Queen of Alexandria and adoptive mother of Garnet, she was a sweet queen until Kuja corrupted her. She now seeks the power of the Eidolons to conquer the Mist continent.
Garland - The leader of the dead planet of Terra. He is using his Angels of Death to disrupt the Cycle of Souls in Gaia to create a homeland for lost people, living inside the Genomes.
Kuja - A Genome with a soul, he can be considered Zidane's older brother. As Garland's Angel of Death, it is in his nature to cause war and chaos. Upon learning of his mortality, he resolves that if he can't live, no one can. He is the main villain of the game.
Necron - A mysterious entity which appears after Kuja is defeated and seeks to return the world to nothingness. Final boss of the game.
Final Fantasy X
Seymour Guado - A half-human, half-Guado maester who believes that the only way to end Spira's suffering is to destroy it and wishes to become Sin to achieve his goal of destroying all life. He is the main villain of the game.
Yunalesca - Yu Yevon's daughter and an Unsent who gives Spira false hope through the Final Summoning to destroy Sin.
Jecht - Tidus's father with whom he has an antagonistic relationship. As Braska's Final Aeon he forms the core of the current Sin. He is the first reluctant villain of the series.
Yu Yevon - The summoner who is worshiped by all of Spira. In reality, he is the source of all their troubles, terrorizing the world clad in his armor known as Sin.
Final Fantasy X-2
Leblanc - Founder of the Leblanc Syndicate, a rival Sphere Hunter to Yuna and the Gullwings, and a thorn in their side.
Shuyin - A blitzball player from Zanarkand 1000 years ago, now a vengeful unsent spirit. He wants to use the machina, Vegnagun, to destroy everything.
Vegnagun - A gargantuan sentient machine with a goal of destroying all life.
Final Fantasy XI
Shadow Lord - The Lord of the Beastmen, it was he who started the Crystal War and formed the Beastmen Confederacy. Main villain and final boss of the original Final Fantasy XI.
Kam'lanaut - A Zilart prince. Eald'narche's brother. He was seen to the public as a hero and founder of Jeuno's current state.
Eald'narche - The ma Zilart prince, he wants to open the gates to paradise, and tried doing so by manipulating the Shadow Lord. Main villain and final boss of Rise of the Zilart.
Nag'molada - A member of the Armahrwn Society and a diplomat of Jeuno. His desire for the "truth" is what sets many of the bad events in motion in Chains of Promathia. He is unique as he is more of an anti-hero, until the final chapters.
Promathia - The Twilight God, and creator of the Beastmen. He punished the people of Vana'diel for trying to open the gates to paradise. Main villain and final boss of Chains of Promathia.
Razfahd - The young, mislead vizier of Aht Urghan, his lust for power and control nearly leads to the second Ragnarok through Alexander's manipulation and revival.
Spitewardens - A group of undead souls who serve Lady Lilith.
Lady Lilith - A mysterious woman from an alternate future of Vana'diel. Her goal is to make her own dark future come to pass. Main villain and final boss of Wings of the Goddess.
Final Fantasy XII
Ba'Gamnan - A bangaa bounty hunter that chases Balthier.
The Occuria - A race of ancient, godlike beings, also known as "The Undying", that seek to control the world and the course of history by giving power to those they favor.
Venat - A rogue Occuria, it believes that mankind should be able to forge their own history free of the gods, and uses the Archadian Empire to further this goal.
Dr. Cid - Balthier's father and a scientist of Archadia who, with the help of Venat, created the manufactured nethicite that allows Archadia to come to power.
Archadian Judges - The supreme enforcers of Archadian law in the world of Ivalice. Each wields extraordinary legal power in his or her own right over lower-ranked Archadian officers.
Vayne Solidor - The Emperor of Archades who murders his father to gain control of the Empire. He wishes to use the power of nethicite to conquer Ivalice and declare himself the next Dynast King. He is the main villain of the game.
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Judge of Wings - A powerful Judge-like villain, created from a viera named Mydia. She craves the powers of auracite for unknown reasons.
Feolthanos - The leader of the aegyl who went mad after the Occuria locked him away in Lemurés.
Final Fantasy XIII
Cid Raines - A brigadier general working for the Sanctum, who was made a l'Cie by Barthandelus and whose Focus is to guide the main characters.
Jihl Nabaat - A cruel and intelligent PSICOM officer who views l'Cie as subhuman.
Yaag Rosch - A lieutenant colonel of the Sanctum who sees all l'Cie as threats to the peace and prosperity of Cocoon.
Barthandelus - A powerful fal'Cie, and lord sovereign of Cocoon, who hides underneath the guise of Galenth Dysley, the primarch of the Sanctum. His ultimate goal is to kill Orphan, which in turn would bring about the destruction of Cocoon. He is the main villain of the game.
Orphan - The fal'Cie that acts as the source for Cocoon's power, Orphan wishes to bring about the return of the Maker by summoning Ragnarok and destroying Cocoon, even if it means that it must die in the process. Final boss of the game.
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Caius Ballad - An immortal man who wishes to destroy the future to save a seeress named Yeul. He is the main villain of the game.
Alyssa Zaidelle - A woman whose continued existence in the timeline is a paradox and who wishes to foil Serah and Noel's plan to correct the timeline, so she can continue to exist.
Adam - A sentient man-made fal'Cie who uses humans to preserve its own existence.
Final Fantasy XIV
Gaius van Baelsar - A Hyur who leads an invasion to Eorzea.
Nael van Darnus - A ruthless man who feels that the empire's invasion of Eroza is of divine intervention to save its people from their pagan ideals. He is the main villain of the game.
Travanchet - A shadowless and very skilled Elezen mage who leads the Sahagin attack against the Knights of The Barracuda Fleet.
Final Fantasy Tactics
Wiegraf Folles - Leader of the Corpse Brigade, joins with the Knights Templar, becomes controlled by Belias.
Dycedarg Beoulve - Leader of the Order of the Northern Sky, one of the primary advisors to Duke Larg, and becomes controlled by Adrammelech.
Folmarv Tengille - Leader of the Knights Templar, he is being controlled by the Lucavi to resurrect their leader.
Saint Ajora Glabados - Worshiped as a saint, but with a view to summon the Lucavi.
Ultima - The Bloody Angel. Ultima is the leader of the Lucavi Demons.
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Llednar Twem - The personification of Mewt's anger and hatred.
Li-Grim - The incarnation of all the dreams that make up the world of Ivalice. She pretends to be Mewt's mom and grants him everything he wishes for.
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Khamja - A foreign syndicate, comprised of ruthless leaders with ties to Cid's past.
Illua - Leader of Khamja. An expert samurai, she carries her dark grimoire with one hand and a deadly katana with the other.
Ewen - A agile and secretive ninja, Ewen is a man of few words, preferring to let his katana do the talking.
Neukhia - A demon from the Rift, called by the twin Gran Grimoires.
Vagrant Story
Jan Rosencrantz - A traitorous double-dealing ex-Riskbreaker.
Romeo Guildenstern - The ambitious leader of the Order of the Crimson Blades.
Final Fantasy Type-0
High Commander Cid Aulstyne - The leader of the militaristic nation of Milites. He sends his army of l'Cie soldiers and airships to destroy the crystals of the other nations.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Raem - A monster born from the cataclysm that spread Miasma through the world. It feeds on memories.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of FatesEdit
Cu Chaspel - A servant to Galdes, with ties to the protagonist Yuri and Chelinka's family.
Galdes - A leader, Hierophant of the Crystal Temple. Has a plan involving crystal users.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Dark Lord - An evil king that once ruled over the land
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Larkeicus - An ancient immortal archaeologist and inventor who has a plan to alter the past.
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Vile Four - Four elemental monsters that serve the Dark King, they attack the four regions of the world and drain the Crystals of their strength.
Dark King - A green-skinned spider king in the guise of a human watching the world secretly from atop the Focus Tower. It is he who ordered the Vile Evils to drain the Crystals in an attempt to destroy the world.
Bismarck.Rydin
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 85
By Bismarck.Rydin 2013-04-29 13:26:54
The best game?
Final Fantasy IV
The best lead character?
Cecil (FF4), Zidane (FF9)
The best support (Party) character?
Rydia (FF4)
The most evil villain?
Kefka (FF6)
The game with the best music?
Every game with Nobou Uematsu's soundtracks
The game with the best battle and level system?
Final Fantasy 7
The greatest special ability?|
Limit Breaks (FF7)
The hardest boss fight ever?
Necron (FF9)
The rarest item ever?
Onion Knight equipment (FF3)
The rarest fight?
Can't think of one
The hardest weapon to make?
Spirit Lance (Khimari FF10)
The best main storyline?
Final Fantasy 9
The worst main storyline?
Final Fantasy 13
The best jobs?
Dragoon, Ninja, Samurai, Warrior, Red Mage, Thief, Knight, Blue Mage, Ranger(Archer), and Summoner
The worst jobs?
Bard
The most pointless quests ever?
Can't think of one
The hardest quests to complete?
Lightning Bolt Dodging and Butterfly Catching (FF10)
The biggest spam move ever?
Mime (FF7)
The biggest glitches that benefit you?
Unlimited stamina in Chocobo Racing (FF7)
The weakest party character ever?
Edward (FF4)
The hardest end boss?
Necron (FF9)
The most useful magic spell ever?
Aura (FF8)
The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
Yojimbo (FF10)
The best mini-game?
Battle Square (FF7)
The worst mini-game?
Chocobo Hot & Cold (FF9)
The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.)
Cecil (FF4)
The best damage dealing character
Kain (FF4)
The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.)
Rosa (FF4)
Cerberus.Kylos
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:27:53
Now when you say Support, do you mean support as in a movie sense (like a supporting actor) or a support as in overall usefulness to the party?
Basically anyone who is a good guy, who you can use in a party, but is NOT the lead character.
Valefor.Sehachan
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Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 13:28:17
Kefka is the most evil cause he enjoys destruction itself with no other end to it.
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Valefor.Ivaan
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Posts: 605
By Valefor.Ivaan 2013-04-29 13:30:22
The best game?
tactics no wait! ff4 no wait! ff9! no wait ff6!
- The best lead character?
Cecil
- The best support (Party) character?
Orlandu (duh hes the strongest ever!) but seriously support wise Rosa i guess
- The most evil villain?
Kefka
- The game with the best music?
ff 9
- The game with the best battle and level system?
ff 7 (Materia system was amazing)
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
Ultima from ff9. it destroyed the world no? lol
- The hardest boss fight ever?
ff tactics with the 4 hydra and the boss with the elemental gun,
second to last fight... yeah.
- The rarest item ever?
anything you try to farm in ff11
- The rarest fight?
idk
- The hardest weapon to make?
ecalibur 2 from ff9
- The best main storyline?
ff tactics
- The worst main storyline?
8
- The best jobs?
dark knight / paladin / any holy knight / swordsman class form tactics
- The worst jobs?
puppetmaster, dancer, whatever Gau was from 6.... mime.
- The most pointless quests ever?
idk
- The hardest quests to complete?
airship fight ff11 pre adjustments
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
AOE Comet in ff7 lol
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
idk
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
Gau ff6
- The hardest end boss?
Pandemonium warden at 75 cap
- The most useful magic spell ever?
curaga
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
Bahamut
- The best mini-game?
tetra master ff9
- The worst mini-game?
anything from ff7 in that mini game area
- Lamest villian of all time?
Sephiroth! he is no bad *** at all and if you really played ff7 you would agree. Remember when he stabbed cloud right through the chest and cloud picked him up and tossed him like a sack off a bridge? yeah. tldr or w/e: hes all hype yo!
Cerberus.Kylos
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:30:37
Kefka is the most evil cause he enjoys destruction itself with no other end to it.
I can agree with that. He has absolutely no remorse, and has fun killing people. He has no sad back story, hes just a bad man who wants to see the world burn.
Does anybody dispute Kefka being the most evil character in all of Final Fantasy?
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-04-29 13:32:01
I'd actually like to talk about Tactics. I feel that game is the most underrated game in the series, since it's not actually a numbered game.
The exploration of 'heroism', shown through the conflicting ideologies of Ramza and Delita, is something that I haven't seen done as well in any other game.
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 13:33:21
I could play FFTA2 forever and never get bored. Really fun game.
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Valefor.Ivaan
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Posts: 605
By Valefor.Ivaan 2013-04-29 13:34:46
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »I'd actually like to talk about Tactics. I feel that game is the most underrated game in the series, since it's not actually a numbered game.
The exploration of 'heroism', shown through the conflicting ideologies of Ramza and Delita, is something that I haven't seen done as well in any other game.
everyone feel free to discuss this! I second you!
Even though it isnt a typical game of its era ( in terms of combat) the story line, character struggle, even class struggle seen between characters is just quire amazing.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:35:27
Added three new questions and added an explanation on "The best support character" question.
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.)
- The best damage dealing character
- The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.)
Of course, contributions will be recorded, but I will only be looking for answers to one or two at a time, and this will be ongoing til the majority are in agreement.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-04-29 13:36:23
- The best game? FFIX
- The best lead character? Zidane
- The best support (Party) character? Balthier
- The most evil villain? Kefka
- The game with the best music? FFX
- The game with the best battle and level system? For level system it's easily X but battle it's XII
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) Lionheart, so VIII's Limit Breaks
- The hardest boss fight ever? Yiazmat
- The hardest weapon to make? Tournesol in XII
- The best main storyline? FFIX
- The worst main storyline? FFXIII
- The hardest quests to complete? Card game in VIII
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage) Quickenings if you're quick enough (>_>) or Zell's Armageddon Fist
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? The item duplication in VII?
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party) I'm gonna say Selphie even though "The End" is pretty damn broken
- The hardest end boss? Necron because of his annoying status effects
- The most useful magic spell ever? Haste
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Strongest and also one of the worst is Yojimbo
- The best mini-game? Chocobo Hot and Cold
- The worst mini-game? Jump rope
Cerberus.Tikal
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-04-29 13:36:24
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »I'd actually like to talk about Tactics. I feel that game is the most underrated game in the series, since it's not actually a numbered game.
The exploration of 'heroism', shown through the conflicting ideologies of Ramza and Delita, is something that I haven't seen done as well in any other game. The game was incredibly well written, but it is more along the lines of the Tactics Ogre series, than the Final Fantasy series. It's unfortunate that there hasn't been anything further from that line. I was sorely disappointed in the FFTA games. They were good upon their own merits, but didn't compare to the original at all.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 13:37:18
Best tank: Summons in FFX
Best dd: Zell Dincht
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Valefor.Ivaan
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Posts: 605
By Valefor.Ivaan 2013-04-29 13:40:09
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »I'd actually like to talk about Tactics. I feel that game is the most underrated game in the series, since it's not actually a numbered game.
The exploration of 'heroism', shown through the conflicting ideologies of Ramza and Delita, is something that I haven't seen done as well in any other game. The game was incredibly well written, but it is more along the lines of the Tactics Ogre series, than the Final Fantasy series. It's unfortunate that there hasn't been anything further from that line. I was sorely disappointed in the FFTA games. They were good upon their own merits, but didn't compare to the original at all.
Are you referring to ffta as in like tactics advance and said spin offs only and not war of the lions?
I am wondering if you played ff tactics war of the lions on psp. I was seriously considering buying one just for that game bc you can become a dark knight lol. I would be sad if you said it was worse than original tactics....
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 13:40:22
So is everyone in absolute agreement that the most evil villain ever is Kefka? (rate up to agree)
Are you a member of the Cult of Kefka?
Valefor.Ivaan
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2013-04-29 13:41:11
So is everyone in absolute agreement that the most evil villain ever is Kefka? (rate up to agree)
Are you a member of the Cult of Kefka?
definitely the most evil character of any game.
As I sit here during the maintenance, I would like to begin an idea I conjured up while working. Simply put, I would like to find out what everyone believes are the absolute best and worst aspects of the Final Fantasy series.
I watched some youtube videos last night, and it seems a lot of the "Top 5" videos are pretty biased, as some youtube users like different FF more then others.
When it comes to FF, I am good at being unbiased. I can admit to playing FF1, 2, 12 and 13 without clearing them, while completing the following titles: FF Mystic Quest, FF 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 DOC, 8, 9, 10, and 10-2. I would love to include FFXI in this, as anyone who makes a list of the series best and worst tends to leave it out for some unknown reason... like they don't want it to exist??
I can admit to never playing FF3, 13-2, Crisis Core or any other I have not listed, so help may be needed on those.
So you may be thinking, how will we decide? What aspects of the game should we look into? Below is a list of questions that I would like to see answered.
- The best game?
- The best lead character?
- The best support character? (Basically any good character who you can party with, who is NOT the lead character. I do not mean support like a Mage.)
- The most evil villain?
- The game with the best music?
- The game with the best battle and level system?
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
- The hardest boss fight ever?
- The rarest item ever?
- The rarest fight?
- The hardest weapon to make?
- The best main storyline?
- The worst main storyline?
- The best jobs?
- The worst jobs?
- The most pointless quests ever?
- The hardest quests to complete?
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
- The hardest end boss?
- The most useful magic spell ever?
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
- The best mini-game?
- The worst mini-game?
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.)
- The best damage dealing character
- The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.)
Can you think of anymore??? If you can, let me know and I shall add it to the list.
I will reserve a post below to show the results, so you people do not have to go looking for them. Also I would like to ask these questions randomly (maybe more then one at a time) and keep them up until we have a sufficient answer. You can simply vote on what you feel is right, and by explaining your answers, you may encourage others to agree with you and vote the same way.
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