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Endeavoring to Awaken --A Guide to Rune Fencer
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 11:39:15
Up to date run tp/ws set, my run is still wip, but on spreadsheet at least(w/o account for lunge dmg then) this get pretty close to drk dmg(with more survivabilty :p)
Those set are assuming boss run(5NM+Tojil/shark/bee) with boss buff, all mani stuff are rank 15, can replace mani head on tp and choca on ws by Wirlpool Mask if att/acc is needed.
Tp
ItemSet 305741
Ws
ItemSet 305742
By Enuyasha 2013-06-26 11:46:11
Wouldnt you benefit more from chocolate mask on Reso (with the STR mod) than Whirlpool (which only has base ATK)? I could definitely see it for an accuracy hybrid TP piece,but i think you'd lose more by having it in WS :<
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Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 11:51:20
Yeah the set posted is with choca, I'd only use wirlpool if song/roll are wearing and not being reapplied on boss but choca prolly better 99% of the time for ws you're right.
Now to try to make an up to date lunge set!
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 11:54:04
Whilrpool/brego or skadi/windbuffet/mani boots should win for tp I think.
With brego it'd be:
acc+22
str+8
atk+23
qa+1
ta+2
dex-1
da-6
By Enuyasha 2013-06-26 12:01:21
Yeah the set posted is with choca, I'd only use wirlpool if song/roll are wearing and not being reapplied on boss but choca prolly better 99% of the time for ws you're right.
Now to try to make an up to date lunge set! Mkay, i was just wondering :< Now i have to wait for reive update to get that and my crossbow ;A; and buy mani body...*bleh*
Whilrpool/brego or skadi/windbuffet/mani boots should win for tp I think.
With brego it'd be:
acc+22
str+8
atk+23
qa+1
ta+2
dex-1
da-6 is 25% gearhaste okay to do now? :<
Asura.Solara
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-26 12:02:14
The is close to the set I came up with as well. You should get a boost from swapping Mani hat > Whirlpool and nomkapha > brego during tp, pyrosoul > epona during ws.
Edit: partially beat :/
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 12:03:21
All the gear released since...I don't remember when anymore, but at some point in time they started releasing gear that allows 25% haste to be cap without needing to round to 26...sorry I don't have the source at this moment, but I swear it wasn't pchan.
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 12:12:33
Whilrpool/brego or skadi/windbuffet/mani boots should win for tp I think.
With brego it'd be:
acc+22
str+8
atk+23
qa+1
ta+2
dex-1
da-6
I'll check more later, this is def winning when acc or att isn't capped and prolly close/same if att/acc/fstr capped and make nomkhapa hands not needed thx.
Is eddy necklace the only new good lunge piece ? Couldn't find anything else new for it.
edit: nice epona's winning on ws.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 12:13:56
Eddy is the strongest available to run at the moment.
Asura.Solara
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-26 12:58:51
Oh, I forgot to mention that Mars's Ring beats Rajas on tp.
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 13:05:55
Not with capped accuracy! Speaking of accuracy has the exact value of Swordplay been tested ? From quick test it seems to be 25(like aggressor) but I didn't check enough to nail down the exact value.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 13:08:20
Rose strap would make a 5 hit! edit: if /sam
Don't think anyone did Swordplay tests.
Shiva.Tedril
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 13:28:33
Up to date run tp/ws set, my run is still wip, but on spreadsheet at least(w/o account for lunge dmg then) this get pretty close to drk dmg(with more survivabilty :p)
Those set are assuming boss run(5NM+Tojil/shark/bee) with boss buff, all mani stuff are rank 15, can replace mani head on tp and choca on ws by Wirlpool Mask if att/acc is needed.
Tp
ItemSet 305741
Ws
ItemSet 305742
What are you using as your base requirement for acc? I've always heard 630 for the bosses but that doesn't seem to be what your sets are at? Or am I missing something. Also I would figure (especially in short winded fights like those bosses) stp to be more important than xhit? Where you can easily hit 5hit /Sam on run.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 13:30:45
I wish I could go run to bosses too :(
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Shiva.Tedril
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 13:33:19
I just don't see how that acc can cap on those bosses it's at like 590 or something like that If my paper math is right. And I can get 17 double 3 triple 3 quad and 608 acc and if I only need the acc from his set I can drop some acc and get 20 double.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 13:34:56
I'm really hoping for some strong stp gear from artifact lol that will really make set easier so I can have eponas back. Though I don't use run yet I like the job a lot.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 13:35:26
Add +22 acc from the fixes mentioned above(Whilrpool etc)
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 13:37:55
I'll recrunch the numbers home with calc I might be missing somewhere on paper idk.
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-26 13:43:57
Not with capped accuracy! Speaking of accuracy has the exact value of Swordplay been tested ? From quick test it seems to be 25(like aggressor) but I didn't check enough to nail down the exact value.
True. I was assuming Pizza +1, 25 acc swordplay, 7 or lower roll (not lucky), and 870 base eva value, geo-topor, and with soul voice madrigal. Forgot to add bolster to geo, that puts rajas ahead as long as the geo doesn't die.
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 13:44:23
Keep in mind, I assume BOSS buff for those, 8song/4roll(2 being mad/hunter).
edit: also accounting for boss debuff, those set are /sam, I'll prolly make set with lesser buff later but I'm spoiled(and it make the brd hate me) but I make them rotate for Odin II/Legion/Field NM too :p
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 13:47:26
Not with capped accuracy! Speaking of accuracy has the exact value of Swordplay been tested ? From quick test it seems to be 25(like aggressor) but I didn't check enough to nail down the exact value.
True. I was assuming Pizza +1, 25 acc swordplay, 7 or lower roll (not lucky), and 870 base eva value, geo-topor, and with soul voice madrigal. Forgot to add bolster to geo, that puts rajas ahead as long as the geo doesn't die.
I use bream sushi(and our usual def down stuff) that's prolly the difference.
Asura.Solara
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-26 14:00:29
It was the bream, though it looks like sole is pulling ahead a bit if you go the sushi route.
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Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 14:09:11
Yeah def so bream/mars ring for bee prolly and sole/rajas for shark/tojil!
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 14:34:55
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Scribbled that out. It's a start I guess once you run out of mab stuff you can add Gs skill if there is any? I'm sure artifact gear again will shed some light on this. And I can't recall but inherent mab traits count but not int correct?
Edit: oops on bereaver
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 14:37:02
This is ideal(minus book and hands if you care about enmity-)
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Shiva.Tedril
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-26 14:39:49
Is that little gs skill better than rings? And I didn't think there was any chance for magic crit? That will be interesting.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-26 14:41:12
It can crit and burst(and get resisted, so I guess can make a case for macc too). Demons are mab+2 right? I can't be bothered to count now, but it's an easy formula to see which is better.
There's also denali for pants.
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-06-26 14:43:48
I guess if new skirmish doesn't change that, back to PW T.T! I wouldn't care about enmity - on lunge atm.
In my mind run seems ok to be a melee friendly fight tank/support for mob with a lot of magical tp move/magic spam!
Maybe if they had more light dt gear that doesn't sacrifice too much dmg, we'll can raplace 1 pld by run on rng heavy fight, would be awesome!
Asura.Solara
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-26 14:55:22
I volunteer to come Run for testing's sake. :3
Demon's cap at +3 mab +3 mcrit. I've only ever seen 1 and never gotten it myself, but it exists.
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Quetzalcoatl.Dova
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2013-06-30 22:09:47
I volunteer to come Run for testing's sake. :3
Demon's cap at +3 mab +3 mcrit. I've only ever seen 1 and never gotten it myself, but it exists.
I have 2 with 3mab. Never seen a 3/3 with crit though but I hate that place so I never will.
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