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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-02-03 14:05:19
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By pchan 2014-02-03 15:08:42
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
didn't they already say they're going to lower the #/people required for delve

relax your denial pchan, it'll be ok

Are you stupid or did you just say that 6 man old delve = new delve ? They did release a new roadmap, nothing about new delve, but keep denying it ...
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-02-03 15:42:50
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I thought they stopped releasing roadmaps in favor of "this is what we're doing in the next two months" updatebytes (due to their incompetence at keeping up with their own roadmaps).
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By pchan 2014-02-03 16:06:12
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They announced 6-man delve to ease the returning players life (because it's impossible to find people to do it), skirmish and relic gear upgrades to 119. Knowing SE relic gear will suck about as much as AF for most jobs and skirmish will trash everything else like last time.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2014-02-03 16:46:52
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Any order of importance on upgrades? I know hands can pretty much be upgraded right away; but haven't rly kept up with much else since I left.

You could probably use an Acc back option, Letalis or Anchoret's. Atheling will still beat both with capped Acc, but there are a lot of situations these days where you're not capped even with buffs: Delve bosses, Difficult+ SKCNM, new AA/Zilart fights...

FWIW, if you want Anchoret's and aren't lucky enough to get the drop (JSE capes can drop randomly from any WKR, and from Colonization/Lair reives in Marjami, Yorcia, Kamihr, and Woh/Dho Gates), rumor has it that S-E is adding a 3:1 trade in program in March update or later - seems like it's in the works from some not entirely definitive JP dev comments. Basically just like Abyssea NQ Empy feet, trade in 3 capes for any job to get 1 of your choosing. So don't toss capes for jobs you don't care about.

Especially if you already have decent progress toward 100% Rank 3 Sauromugue Meebles, that's a really good thing to prioritize finishing up so you can buy Letalis. If you've completely ignored Meebles, yeah, could be annoying to get help on your boss wins or certain Rank 3 goals.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-02-03 18:51:09
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pchan said: »
They announced 6-man delve to ease the returning players life (because it's impossible to find people to do it), skirmish and relic gear upgrades to 119. Knowing SE relic gear will suck about as much as AF for most jobs and skirmish will trash everything else like last time.

119 AF is pretty damn useful for most jobs. The macro pieces that were always useful remain so or get more useful, and many pieces off the same stats as Skirmish or Delve gear with higher DEF values.
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By pchan 2014-02-03 18:56:57
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they don't get pdt so beside for PLD the def is useless
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-02-03 19:12:09
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Odin.Jassik said: »
pchan said: »
They announced 6-man delve to ease the returning players life (because it's impossible to find people to do it), skirmish and relic gear upgrades to 119. Knowing SE relic gear will suck about as much as AF for most jobs and skirmish will trash everything else like last time.

119 AF is pretty damn useful for most jobs. The macro pieces that were always useful remain so or get more useful, and many pieces off the same stats as Skirmish or Delve gear with higher DEF values.

are you trying to say that there's jobs besides mnk? pffff
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-02-03 19:22:17
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
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pchan said: »
They announced 6-man delve to ease the returning players life (because it's impossible to find people to do it), skirmish and relic gear upgrades to 119. Knowing SE relic gear will suck about as much as AF for most jobs and skirmish will trash everything else like last time.

119 AF is pretty damn useful for most jobs. The macro pieces that were always useful remain so or get more useful, and many pieces off the same stats as Skirmish or Delve gear with higher DEF values.

are you trying to say that there's jobs besides mnk? pffff

No, there is only MNK, which gets use out of 3-4 pieces of 119 AF.

pchan said: »
they don't get pdt so beside for PLD the def is useless

No new delve and DEF is useless... you really are behind the times, bubba.
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By pchan 2014-02-04 03:05:10
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Can you post the info about new delve ? nope, because you are a trollol.
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when you flush the toilet where does it go

you cant explain that
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every time this gets bumped i see proth's ostrich first thing and it reminds me why this is getting bumped

great page claim there
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By Sylph.Peldin 2014-02-04 08:21:21
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lol

Hey speaking of new Skirmish, I'm wondering if I should spend my login points on Faithful Torso III and Faithful Legs III

Or should I just get more sacred crests?
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-02-04 09:00:33
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Sylph.Peldin said: »
lol

Hey speaking of new Skirmish, I'm wondering if I should spend my login points on Faithful Torso III and Faithful Legs III

Or should I just get more sacred crests?
In my experience skirmish parts are extremely common from reives, where as Crests are not so common. Given the options I'd go for crests.
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By pchan 2014-02-04 14:46:55
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No idea why you'd want tier III legs anyway, the only useful part i s head for stone +2 you can spam the rest at will till you get the base gear.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2014-02-04 15:21:13
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Because I assume we will still use the Torso I/II/III/IV/V and Legs I/II/III/IV/V for the new Skirmish.
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By pchan 2014-02-04 15:40:51
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And I'm tell you tiered legs are useless because the give useless bonuses.
 
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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2014-02-09 13:18:05
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I had a couple gear set questions:

This is my current TP set, and I was curious about some potential swaps. Are quiahuiz leggings worth using? I remember every MNK in Vana'diel was wearing those at one point, and I just wasn't sure how they compared to Otronif- my current augments on Brais are -3% PDT and +1 crit. For back is Atheling ok? I was considering anchoret's mantle or misuuchi kappa perhaps... I'm not really looking for AF +1 suggestions for other slots as of yet, as there are other pieces I'm still working on upgrading for jobs I play a lot more.

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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-02-09 13:36:49
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Mani legs/feet, Q leggings, Letalis, Kappa, Whirlpool, Hagneia and Potestas are all options depending on your accuracy/attack/buffs. Everything is situational.
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By cervelo84 2014-02-09 14:58:05
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Great info here. I leveled mnk because I had puppetmaster at 99 with capped skills. 3 months later and my love for mnk has grown so much I decided to upgrade my Verethragna. Now I have it at i119 and am working on gear. I have most of the mormal mnk gear out there. I noticed that when I ws I only get 12 tp back unless I'm using accuracy food. Am I right to think that I need more accuracy gear macro'd in for the ws? ( I do a lot of fodder stuff with meat mithkabobs) I figured Ej Necklace and Whirlpool mask ( I need 35k plasm) Would put me at +40 more acc. ( I only have 1/5 of the delve set) Surely enough so that I get the full 16 % tp back? I think its 16?

Anyone want to shed some light on this. My WS set has +162 str in it which is a bit high I think. ( AF1+1/ Manibozho mix with str earrings/rings /necklace)
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-02-09 15:38:50
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Congrats on vere! You shouldn't need any accuracy gear using a 119 weapon on fodder.

That sounds about the correct tp return from a four hit VS with vere. Don't forget it's lower delay than oat so you get less tp returned. You'll normally only get more if you multi-hit on VS and/or using stp gear to weapon skill in.
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By Odin.Ketsuu 2014-02-11 21:53:33
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
★Do not worry about the Impetus sets unless you have Glanzfaust.

Is this the sets you posted you are referring to, or just to not swap in things like AF3+2 body with impetus up? confusing wording
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2014-02-11 22:49:43
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Odin.Ketsuu said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
★Do not worry about the Impetus sets unless you have Glanzfaust.

Is this the sets you posted you are referring to, or just to not swap in things like AF3+2 body with impetus up? confusing wording
Means dont tp in af3 body under impetus unless you got Glanz
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By pchan 2014-02-12 03:16:11
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Ragnarok.Azryel said: »
I had a couple gear set questions:

This is my current TP set, and I was curious about some potential swaps. Are quiahuiz leggings worth using? I remember every MNK in Vana'diel was wearing those at one point, and I just wasn't sure how they compared to Otronif- my current augments on Brais are -3% PDT and +1 crit. For back is Atheling ok? I was considering anchoret's mantle or misuuchi kappa perhaps... I'm not really looking for AF +1 suggestions for other slots as of yet, as there are other pieces I'm still working on upgrading for jobs I play a lot more.

ItemSet 270447

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quiahuiz suck, only resaon you saw people wearing it is that it was new and easily obtainable from WKR. Augmented otronif is easy to get and much better.

I don't think anything beats atheling except for uncapped acc.

All AF+1 sucks from what I remember...

The set you posted is basically the best but since every thing they release lately rapes everyone's faith and is evasive, it's not very practical. You need to cleverly use pdt is various slots so generally it's 5/5 otronif and pdt on back, neck rings.. It's better to have otronif augmented with acc but not necessary either. Even easy mode AA can rape your face.
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By Carbuncle.Sisko 2014-02-12 03:21:50
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cervelo84 said: »
Great info here. I leveled mnk because I had puppetmaster at 99 with capped skills. 3 months later and my love for mnk has grown so much I decided to upgrade my Verethragna. Now I have it at i119 and am working on gear. I have most of the mormal mnk gear out there. I noticed that when I ws I only get 12 tp back unless I'm using accuracy food. Am I right to think that I need more accuracy gear macro'd in for the ws? ( I do a lot of fodder stuff with meat mithkabobs) I figured Ej Necklace and Whirlpool mask ( I need 35k plasm) Would put me at +40 more acc. ( I only have 1/5 of the delve set) Surely enough so that I get the full 16 % tp back? I think its 16?

Anyone want to shed some light on this. My WS set has +162 str in it which is a bit high I think. ( AF1+1/ Manibozho mix with str earrings/rings /necklace)


Gratz on Vere, tarzan :). I hope we'll soon see them in action.
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just because you can now... 50% counter rate
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why though
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