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By Asura.Chexmix 2013-06-11 10:00:58
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Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
In terms of the current strategy for monks on Tojil, are merits 5/5 Mantra and Formless? If so what a sad day for Penance :(

Af2 Feet aug help too.
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2013-06-11 10:03:16
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Asura.Chexmix said: »
Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
In terms of the current strategy for monks on Tojil, are merits 5/5 Mantra and Formless? If so what a sad day for Penance :(

Af2 Feet aug help too.

Ya, just wondering if that is indeed what merits need to be.
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By Asura.Chexmix 2013-06-11 10:08:34
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Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
Asura.Chexmix said: »
Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
In terms of the current strategy for monks on Tojil, are merits 5/5 Mantra and Formless? If so what a sad day for Penance :(

Af2 Feet aug help too.

Ya, just wondering if that is indeed what merits need to be.

Oh then yes. I was exceedingly sad dropping penance also especially having made fun of mantra for years. Old friend had it for mnk/drk on AV long time ago. Although its nice to see other JAs/Merits having a use, now if only something could be done about footwork.
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2013-06-11 10:18:51
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Asura.Chexmix said: »
Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
Asura.Chexmix said: »
Fenrir.Camaroz said: »
In terms of the current strategy for monks on Tojil, are merits 5/5 Mantra and Formless? If so what a sad day for Penance :(

Af2 Feet aug help too.

Ya, just wondering if that is indeed what merits need to be.

Oh then yes. I was exceedingly sad dropping penance also especially having made fun of mantra for years. Old friend had it for mnk/drk on AV long time ago. Although its nice to see other JAs/Merits having a use, now if only something could be done about footwork.

Footwork will now give you enhanced Stephen Chow kicking power

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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-06-12 18:35:14
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Just got a shadow ring. Worth using? If so, what slot is worth giving up in its place for when I am using mdt (since I'm losing mdt from ring slot, uncapping me)
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By Kyler 2013-06-12 18:47:06
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Mollusca, Mermansx2, Denali hands, Twilight torque, Dring(if no dring, Avalon BP + dark ring)

Shadow ring is definitely worth it, much higher proc rate than mantle even if it uncaps your mdt
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-06-12 20:11:15
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you mnks still use boost b4 ws?
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By Sylph.Ice 2013-06-12 21:00:58
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Asura.Natenn said: »
you mnks still use boost b4 ws?
Only when I use my "Over 9000" macro. It has an "IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!" and /jobemote MNK in it. BALLIN BRAH.
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-06-12 23:28:03
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dusting off my mnk, but theres like 100 diff shijin sets, mainly using it for delve/salvage 2. really just need to see some delve gear sets
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2013-06-13 00:03:57
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macsdf1 said: »
he joins one of my delve farms.

I think this is the more shocking than anything Kuro ever says.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-06-13 00:28:17
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Just got a shadow ring. Worth using? If so, what slot is worth giving up in its place for when I am using mdt (since I'm losing mdt from ring slot, uncapping me)

Circa dragged you along? It started because I asked them why they ever sold avalon plate and they told me because they were capping mdt with a dring without the need for body swap. I was like well swap to engulfer and shadow ring then and buy it back lol.

As for a build without dring, Kyler has already answered this. All I have to say as far as pdt and mdt sets are concerned is id try my best personally to avoid using mollusca and try capping both pdt and mdt(and haste) with engulfer(and shadow ring) and shadow mantle for pdt.

Asura.Natenn said: »
you mnks still use boost b4 ws?

Not sposed to in high buff situations no, with say just march or haste samba I use it though still personally.
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-06-13 04:07:24
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anyone mind posting non salvage gear delve shijin sets? all the ones i see are different @@
 
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-06-13 05:33:07
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What are the moonshade augments?
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By Odin.Cyprias 2013-06-13 05:42:49
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no moonshade. doesn't do much to shijin at all. if non salvage/delve, use ghillie+1 or something. otherwise just use da7 earrings.
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-06-13 05:44:27
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hence my question. ;)

Other (low budget AH) options for when you also need Bayld for some of the Thurandaut gear.

Head: Ocelomeh headpiece
Hands: Mustela gloves
Ammo: Potestas Bomblet (Need Meebles for the Needle and you might want to prefer the attack over the str/dex on the newer content as well.)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-06-13 06:15:18
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Sylph.Krsone said: »
Circa dragged you along?
I'm in an ADL static, just happened to get one.
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By Bahamut.Gorion 2013-06-13 10:06:12
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Never see Us. Gote +1 Mentioned as hands. Def 32, Acc 13, Eva 13,
Sb 7, Counter +4, DA +3% and set bonus haste. which you should be tp ing in head. cant see anything beating these for tping
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-06-13 11:13:51
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It's because they're not that good.
Whatever setup you try to use them on, they'll never come out on top.
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-06-13 12:58:31
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
ItemSet 297643

I don't know if your comment ment non salvage & delve gear, but if that's your case swap manibozho legs to byakko's.
i can get manibozo gear, mustela >thurandaut gloves? wanion belt and not caudata? h2h 8/8 merits
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By Asura.Solara 2013-06-13 14:21:23
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I've seen accuracy numbers in this thread, but does anyone have approximate stats for Tojil?

It doesn't appear they're being consistently accounted for in some of the gear sets posted, causing the mixed "what's better" results.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-06-13 14:54:32
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gear sets(these obviously don't need to be exactly these, just what I used):
standard TP: ItemSet 301960
imp up: ItemSet 301961
shijin:ItemSet 304328
These are capped acc w/ below buffs. (they might be over capped, but I have no idea, i've only mnked 2-3 times). Use acc swaps if JAs or buffs wear.

buffs/debuffs: Sole sushi +1/march/march/min3-5/mad x2/scherzo/haste/choas/hunters/fighter's/rogues/boost-str/haste/geo def-/geo eva-/gravity2/dia3/angon or drg 2hour jump/

Tojil fight: Pop mantra/100 fists/formless/imp/berserk/agg/focus. Punch till 100fists wears, probably not worth WSing. Proceed to punch w/ WSs, after 3 minutes, 2nd mnk uses mantra. cors do wild card. Repop all JAs bar formless and mantra. Punch more. Imagine Tojil is your jerk of a best friend who slept with your fiance the day before your wedding at 25%. Punch harder for 25%. Win.

If weakness TP move gets off wear best -DT/+hp gear you can until unweak.

Edit: I have no idea if that's helpful or not :/ stat wise those same buffs w/ +165ish acc in gear and RCB is apperantly capped also.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-06-13 16:14:35
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Bahamut.Gorion said: »
Never see Us. Gote +1 Mentioned as hands. Def 32, Acc 13, Eva 13,
Sb 7, Counter +4, DA +3% and set bonus haste. which you should be tp ing in head. cant see anything beating these for tping

Usu gote+1 are basically +2% haste or 3% if using them with one other piece only most ideal tp setups require 4% haste from the hand slot is why they arent often a good option. I personally use omodaka as im 17/17 nq tekko-1 atm and I like the acc, another alternative is to just wear 4/5 usu giving 8% in the leg slots but these are inferior to mani legs. One good use for gote+1 imo is for a PDT set...

ItemSet 302038

Probably better to use honed tathlum. This build is only 48% though, 50% with denali but you're losing the acc, counter and cap haste.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-06-13 16:21:04
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An imp up tp swap is actually worth it?
 
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By Odin.Volane 2013-06-15 03:52:45
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Hey, I got a couple of questions here:

I added the Delve Boss from RNG spreadsheet to MNK spreadsheet, is that Tojil? (I assume it is)

How do i account for geo eva down and gravity? Do I just lower the boss eva directly by the amount these 2 should give (2x40ish)?
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By Fenrir.Motenten 2013-06-15 15:25:07
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It's based on reported info from Tojil and/or bee fights. For Geo, for now you can just add values to the custom stat line, such as 40 Acc to represent the -40 evasion put on the NM. Or, as you said, simply directly modify the NM values themselves.
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By Bahamut.Saintsfan 2013-06-16 11:57:34
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Posting an accuracy and haste set for Tojil i'm almost done with. Manibozho body is at rank 8, legs rank 7. Rigor's are rank 10 attack path. What im wondering is can i keep this set with all armor and capping acc by finishing the manibozho to 15 or will i need to adjust some armor like ring/neck or even swapping out usu +1 head for manibozho head.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/304666

My gorilla math shows me being at 640 accuracy in that set considering my base dex as 138 on Mithra.

Edit: I have the augmented feet for Mantra and Legs for 100 fists. Ill finish the body for Formless after father's day activities. Is there anything else im missing? (speaking of first part zerg, im aware of pdt and mdt and dt sets ive also been working on for rest of fight)
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-06-16 12:37:31
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I think some of the accuracy sets being thrown around here are questionably high, unless you don't bolster or soul voice.

With SV madx2, hunters(not lucky), sole+1, and bolstered torpor, my mules were all at 95% acc using http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/304164 (rank 2 augs) .. would guess with the usukane you'd want something like http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/303515 unless you're using your buffs/food differently.. obviously manibozho legs if high enough rank and tenryu tekko+1 if available.
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By pchan 2013-06-17 03:54:59
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Soul voice removes the need of accuracy on anything, I mentionned it earlier. You will cap even if you equip pdt/mdt gear.

rigor x x honed
usukane +1 twilight bladeborn steelflash
thaumas melee+2 defending dark
mollusca black belt manibazho usukane

I recommend keep the dt slots during WSs.
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