IiPunch - Monk Guide

has footwork always worn off immediately after using a ws?

It shouldn't wear off after a WS. That's not how it behaves when I use it. Maybe it was dispelled?

Footwork last for 1 Min unless taken off or dispelled.

You're probably using an old gearswap file that automatically cancels it after WS, mine was doing the same thing.

ah, so it was.

So what do you guys think on mnk with /drk? I haven't had time to play around with work right now. Maybe better in zerg situations? Or does that double attack just too good to lose on monk?

Warrior you get 10% DA, Bsrserk, war cry, aggressor. Smite I (trait), damage limit I (trait)

Drk smite I & II (trait). Attack bonus I & II (trait), Last Resort, damage limit I & II (trait).

mnk gets PDL 3/smite 2 naturally, so you can scratch those out.
So all drk is giving you is LR/SE/atk bonus 2 as /war gives atk bonus 1 as a sub.

War pretty much wins

Ah, yeah that completely slipped my mind. Thank you, sir.

it was great in 2006!

if you know a fight will only last 60-90 secs max, /drk is pretty nice for the good ole' last resort / soul eater hundred fists, but really at that point it doesn't matter unless there's a weird magic damage only component that you want to formless strikes for, but the uses are pretty much niche, and not worth worrying about too much.

(that's my opinion though, I've been away from the game for quite a bit, started playing again in Oct.)

has a tiny niche in solo omen where you want to do mb objectives without summoning shan, while also keeping some atk related buffs.

I still have a bit of work to do on VS set(Omen Cards>.>) However I find raging fist outside of Footwork Tornado Kick to be my strongest WS. VS can hit up to 35K for me but I've done 55k Raging Fist and 50k Tornado Kicks. Howling Fist does nothing for me.

Raging Fist Spam FTW!

Upgrade them new shits and lemme know how they look with Asuran Fists. Shoulda been Asuran Fist Damage + 500%.

Does the WSD work across all hits? Well the hits that connect anyways.

Thats the question we all want answered

There's no way they could put a 50% damage buff across an 8-hit ws, after just putting h2h accuracy at 99%. But it does look nice as the instant "get this" option for MNK who doesn't have REMA. And since Asuran Fists is kind of needed for one of MNKs good multistep SC, this is really kind of good.

I almost wish Blade: Kamu got an improvement just so 5 step NIN radiance didn't have to take a step back with that ws.

It's not even that big of a boost, it just makes asuran actually useable (if, it's across all hits)

I mean right now with "all teh buffz" you get like a 12k asuran fists? maybe 15?

yes and no

function job_aftercast(spell, action, spellMap, eventArgs)
if spell.type == 'WeaponSkill' and not spell.interrupted and state.FootworkWS and state.Buff.Footwork then
send_command('empty') <------

I'm assuming all hits because Decimation has been doing insanely well for me.

It's simple no, there is no yes. Unless we talking about not R15 weapons. R15 Veret is far above other options.

He was replying to my 4 month old post. After getting them all I'd argue it's Vere>>>>>SU5>Godhands>Sparhai>mythic

Is Sagitta really better than r15 godhands? And I'm afraid Glanzfaust is alas much further below the others than a single ">". Or at least it was, not sure if r15 changed anything but I doubt

So I just found out about something that most likely everyone that reads/posts in this thread knows:

Has to do with Vere Aftermath:

"Unlike Relics, Empyrean double damage can proc on any additional hits (Double Attack, Triple Attack, Zanshin) initiated by the weapon. It cannot proc on Counters or Retaliations, and Verethragna is strange in that it can only proc on hits generated by one of the hands and only on the first hit."

Has anyone asked and/or has SE ever made a comment acknowledging this? Is it too much wishful thinking to think this may be some sort of glitch?

Probably

I kinda think it's intended. With MNK's split of white vs WS damage, making Su5 and Veret ODD-ODT works on all hits, evne on single hand, would instantly make them FAR superior to any other MNK's weapons. I mean Veret is superior even now, with ODT working like that, it would be light years ahead of anything else.

Not to mention Vereth's effect working on multiple hits would be insanely broken in it's own right, probably putting it well ahead of other DDs in max buff situations.

People will notice strings of high-end Impetus AM3 crits for 8-12k going off.

All below info is from my own calculations, so feel free to correct me.

Well tbh not many ppl know this I think, but WAR with 1hrs and ukonvasara am3 can reach like 10000 dps with just melee swings. This is almost twice more than monk on max impetus right now and like 40~50% more than monk on max impetus with veret working on all hits of one hand.

But yeah that would be only for 30 sek.

I dont think that am3 working on all hits of one hand would be broken in general. After all it would be really powerful only with 50 impetus stacks. Impetus alone is only up for 60% of a time and currently without Impetus, monk's white dps with am3 is not greater than Caladbolg DRK with am3 and behind Ukonvasara WAR woth am3. Actually even THF has higher white damage with Twashtar am3 than monk with am3 veret without Impetus.

Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

I felt like it would make a huge difference, but I didn't realize by that much.

I was mainly looking at it like:

"What the hell, every other job it works for but not Monk. Why is SE giving Monk the ***end of the stick yet again" etc.

The argument back in the day was that other 1H empyrean users didn't get ODD procs on their offhand, so MNK shouldn't either.

That argument holds some water, but I have always viewed the fact that it can't proc on one hand's multi-attacks as an error. I also always argued that AM should apply to 100% of swings for 1H weapons because they apply to all swings for 2H weapons.

I feel like it should also be able to proc on 1 hand at least.

Could anyone please tell me the best way to ask/get the Dev's attention and ask them about this?

I'm assuming the official forums? I'm not familiar with them or have ever posted on them. Just browsed them a bit just now.

Could anyone recommend the best section on those forums (or anywhere) to ask them about this, and if it is indeed some sort of error (of if it is not a error, if they would consider possibly making it activate on 1 hand at least)

Thanks guys