IiPunch - Monk Guide

Uttu no doubt. Uttu all over my Victory Smites, yes please.

Mnk is not on it so, aside from "Lets add monk" what else? I do agree Utu > all, but dulpis make a comeback or blood?

New MNK ability ! Enhance your H2H with whatever you like prefight !

An update to MNK as a sideways way to boost SAM makes total SE sense.

It would be cool to see /MNK as viable. In that way, adjusting JAs would seem like a smart move. /superfacepalm if the changes leave MNK little better than it is, though. We just have to wait and see!

Utu Grip, obviously. 99% of the grips in the game are otherwise so ridiculously underpowered in current meta as to be a joke. I mean, what else is there that anyone would seriously use? Bloodrain Strap? Gracile (because Monk has a haste problem... lulz)? Refined/Mensch +1 because Monk tanking isn't dead, buried, and forgotten?

if they were to make wraps or whatever they chose to call them MNK exclusive and completely new, I'd want something with moderate to high Acc/Att and perhaps a significant Crit boost. (we're talking in the neighborhood of 20+ Acc/Att and like 10%+ Crit Rate/Damage). maybe borrow Utu's additional DEX mod as well. Monk is so ridiculously behind the curve, that what would normally be laughably overpowered would only serve to close the gap instead of breaking the game.


Duplus is not even worth mentioning when Monk has access to all the Multi-attack that it does. just look at Moonbow Belt, THAT is somewhere in the neighborhood that Monk wraps should be starting from.

Asura's Wraps: Martials Arts +3, Subtle Blow +5
Durga wraps: Counter +3
Augus Wraps: Kick attacks +2
Yasha Wraps: Regen +5

That's what we're getting

aside from my little edit there, I would not be surprised to see you being 100% correct otherwise.

I hope something along those lines. I agree with what you have said as far as what monk needs to even come close to a normal use job. Soon they will have to start a Job synergy category where as "If you include the use of other jobs, they will enhance your job" aka Buffs like cor rolls or how certain trust gain benefits for having others out at the same time. SE does like to give us what we *** about the most sometimes.

You would be wise not hope for more.
what MNK would actually need are stuff like

Ryu's Wraps: H2H DMG dealt +5000
Ken's Wraps: Counter +20, Haste +25%
Akuma's Wraps: WSDMG+50

Chicken Wraps: mayo +50

Buddah Wraps: Auto Arise, Full TP, and Instant reset of all Ja Timers to 0

Enjoy your +3 str from Chakra.

For a grip (which we aren't going to get) to save MNK, it would have to be more powerful than a REMA...

What if they wore a pup on their fists!?! That shoots automatons at the mob each swing

Monkutu Grip
HP +700 Accuracy +300 Attack +300
Weapon Skill STR & DEX +100%
Lv. 99 MNK

What do you guys use Anchorite's Cyclas +3 on, WS-wise? Just curious.

I wouldn't use it beyond crit WS. Adhemar Jacket +1 (B), Ryuo Domaru +1 (A) have similar stats with additional bonuses (atk, multi strikes etc.)

Herculean Vest could probably be used as well.

Would it beat Abnoba for Vsmite? Haven't tested it on the spreadsheet, was a bit skeptic.

As for the other WS there's just so many options according to your gil and patience.
Adhemar/Ryuo HQ, Herc with good augs, even Rawhide (A) and Hizamaru+2 might beat Anchorite+3 on some WS, when you don't need the excess Acc provide by Ancho of course.

Absolutely. 14 STR 3 crit dmg is significantly better than 5 crit rate. It might not be too much better with Vere/Spharai, but with the TP Bonus from Godhands, crit rate isn't adding a whole lot of damage.

Bloodrain is actually quite good and was amazing until Utu existed. The reason is that the Store TP +6 is not only on TP builds but also on WS too which helps out your X-hit builds. X-hit's aren't just for 2H melees, the logic (optimizing time till 1000) applies to both DW and H2H setups.

Bloodrain was quite good when it came out, certainly, and it's pretty much the 2nd best Grip. the problem is I find it highly unlikely that when given the option between them that someone is going to take it over Utu in most any given circumstance, instead opting to make up the sTP deficiency in other slots.

the accessory, ammo, and sub slots have all been lagging far behind in the gear curve prior to Omen/Ambuscade (capes). when thinking particularly with hand to hand in mind, being given a Bloodrain equivalent would be a "well, it's better than nothing, but why the hell did they even bother to begin with?" situation. it would be akin to making Moonbow Belt, but its stats being DEF: 12, STR +12, Haste +16%, "Subtle Blow" +7, Physical damage taken -7%. sure, it's better than Black Belt, but it doesn't begin to address making the job competitive through gear.

Utu grip is just far beyond anything else in that slot. It's like comparing 119 gear to 99 gear. The accessories were never really upgraded to 119 status like the other gear was. Ambuscade made "119" capes and omen made a few "119" accessories. I expect the next set of content to hsve even more "119" accessories.

・Adjust certain abilities
・Add new items
・Adjust damage values and delay on certain equipment
・Adjust attributes on certain equipment

It's happening.

They (SE) should really just be silent about such things because their track record of meeting self-imposed deadlines and expectations is horrid, terrible, spectacularly inaccurate and always disappointing.

They should have just made the changes and then announced them the day after as a stepping stone if the changes were not well received or said "surprise!" if they were.

Its like SE'S main goal is to always create Hype "please look forward to it" instead of doing something that people will enjoy.

Joy/enjoyment =/= Hype/suspense

Gotta keep dem subs coming.

No one has speculated about Guard - its possible SE pushes MNK more in that direction.

Emergency maintenances are called emergency for a reason, it's rather labor intensive to shut down production servers and then properly bring them back online without any unforseen consequences. It's far better to do all the changes in one go rather then nickle and dime your operational budget with frequent updates.

I'm not contesting that. I'm saying they need to better market themselves. They should make the changes at the scheduled specified time of server updates and keep quiet about it.
Make the announcement on the day, during Maintenance at least. They have everyone's hopes up for MNK, and it will most likely end up being a garbage change to MNK that does nothing.

Understatement of the century right there.


Honestly that's everyone else's problem. We've been on this game for over a decade, if people don't know not to trust SE's update notes and not to get their hopes up then there is no amount of marketing magic that will fix that.

I already know it's going to be ***, I see no reference to H2H WS's on that list of updates and that is where the primary problem sits. They would need to triple MNK's melee DPS for it to even be considered for higher content. Far easier to just tweak a few WS's instead.

Updated my python simulation !

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7wbcilaHsTeZ0E3MG5ZaHdDM3c

-fixed incorrect triple proc on spharai and verethragna

I have now spharai very close to vere's AM1 (~1% so essentially the same dps) and godhands still behind.


-added raging fists and shinjin spiral. RF sucks (even with godhands and ACp earring) and (EDIT) SP too (plague could be useful with inhibit TP strategies)


- added a ftpbonus stats and modified the weapon skill definitions consequently. Gave the definition of the sea belt and gorget.