For The Shinies! A Guide For Thief
For the Shinies! A Guide for Thief
So with regards to the new Sirocco, assuming there is one, is the low delay, ilvl 119 what will make it better than Atoyac?
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I can't even pretend to imagine what the Unity portion could be...
pugiunculus
/dream
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
As long as the dagger EXISTS... big IF lol... KEEPS the 150 delay, and has no stats other than 242 skill and enaero damage, it needs 70 base and it should be better than Atoyac (but you can't ALWAYS use it)... Some things just shouldn't be hit with enspell damage.
Jugo Kukri +1
DMG:82 Delay:142 ≺Element: Air≻+20
Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+21
Dagger skill +242
Parrying skill +242
Magic Accuracy skill +188
"Triple Attack"+3%
Additional effect: Wind damage
Unity Ranking: AGI+10-15
THF
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/124717-Jan.-15-2015-Version-Update/page3
DMG:82 Delay:142 ≺Element: Air≻+20
Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+21
Dagger skill +242
Parrying skill +242
Magic Accuracy skill +188
"Triple Attack"+3%
Additional effect: Wind damage
Unity Ranking: AGI+10-15
THF
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/124717-Jan.-15-2015-Version-Update/page3
Someone just posted on BG from this site here is the new Sirocco:
DMG:81 Delay:150 wind resist+15Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+20 Dagger skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +188
Triple attack +2% Additional effect: Wind damage Unity Ranking: AGI+10-15
And the +1:
DMG:82 Delay:142 wind resist +20 Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+21 Dagger skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +188 Triple Attack +3% Additional effect: Wind damage Unity Ranking:AGI+10-15
Seems pretty amazing wish the unity rank was DEX but 100% figured AGI, seems like the new best offhand I would think.
Credit to: https://github.com/Windower/Resources/commit/5e92688f894b0d0b94665f0a4f4018d17301946c?diff=split
DMG:81 Delay:150 wind resist+15Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+20 Dagger skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +188
Triple attack +2% Additional effect: Wind damage Unity Ranking: AGI+10-15
And the +1:
DMG:82 Delay:142 wind resist +20 Evasion+22 Magic Accuracy+21 Dagger skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +188 Triple Attack +3% Additional effect: Wind damage Unity Ranking:AGI+10-15
Seems pretty amazing wish the unity rank was DEX but 100% figured AGI, seems like the new best offhand I would think.
Credit to: https://github.com/Windower/Resources/commit/5e92688f894b0d0b94665f0a4f4018d17301946c?diff=split
When was the last time we had a dagger below 150 delay?
Fenrir.Magi said: »
When was the last time we had a dagger below 150 delay?
blitto needle
EDIT: Oh, below? Never. This is the first.
Fenrir.Magi said: »
When was the last time we had a dagger below 150 delay?
Hory Shet
Also: Jugo+1/Jugo? For the lulz! THF tanking ftw?
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Also: Jugo+1/Jugo? For the lulz! THF tanking ftw?
Ehh, it's like that with the other NM counterparts too, Dakenx. Look at the new healing staff etc.
Fenrir.Magi said: »
Ehh, it's like that with the other NM counterparts too, Dakenx. Look at the new healing staff etc.
healing staff was WHM only as well.
Just got dagger on first fight
Looks like a really strong offhand, but will it outshine my atoyac(Oat/WSD2%)? I'm getting it either way, but still. Also i would like to know where it's viable to use my Khepri Jacket with WSD5% on it? Any help i get, thank you in advance.
I'm guessing it beats atoyac when the acc pulls it ahead, but you don't need so much acc that you need to use Saebus, but that's completely a guess, I haven't checked the spreadsheets.
Jugo was already said to be beating the atoyac (wsd/OaT) as for khepri jacket, during stacked the reforge gear gives crit dmg +5% so as for during stacked that body won't touch reforge, as for unstacked, wsdmg is nice to have but up against ilvl gear dex might not win, but I may actually be wrong on that.
Fenrir.Magi said: »
Ehh, it's like that with the other NM counterparts too, Dakenx. Look at the new healing staff etc.
The new Sirocco is better than Atoyac period. In any and all scenario except when you shouldn't be hitting things with magic damage.
Agi+ is a FAIL. But w/e it's still awesome.
Agi+ is a FAIL. But w/e it's still awesome.
Did the fight 6 times with a group of 7. 2 nq daggers, 1 hq dagger, 1 nq staff, 1 hq staff.
Mob seems weak at first, but has this flying move, it usually spams it in a burst of 3+ times. Stun lands but doesnt really stop it just delays. Suggest all melee run sway when they see it, the subsequent hits hit real hard. Aegis pld just ate it other ppl got hit hard. Normal aoe range.
Well equipped rdm couldnt land anything besides dia and stun with geo boost, with geo everything landed. Aegis PLD & rngs googoo
Mob seems weak at first, but has this flying move, it usually spams it in a burst of 3+ times. Stun lands but doesnt really stop it just delays. Suggest all melee run sway when they see it, the subsequent hits hit real hard. Aegis pld just ate it other ppl got hit hard. Normal aoe range.
Well equipped rdm couldnt land anything besides dia and stun with geo boost, with geo everything landed. Aegis PLD & rngs googoo
Well Rudra's Storm "procs" him so to speak. you get about 4 sec of him being frozen from it. Got NQ dagger on First kill, just wings to go now. Good hunting.
Leviathan.Tharon said: »
Looks like a really strong offhand, but will it outshine my atoyac(Oat/WSD2%)? I'm getting it either way, but still. Also i would like to know where it's viable to use my Khepri Jacket with WSD5% on it? Any help i get, thank you in advance.
Well Dread Jupon has 37DEX so i guess it's dead for everything but coro and regen idle body.
Leviathan.Tharon said: »
Well Dread Jupon has 37DEX so i guess it's dead for everything but coro and regen idle body.
So as a mandau owner and totally bad at maths this means i should toss it and tp now on with izh/new dagger+1?
Leviathan.Tharon said: »
Well Dread Jupon has 37DEX so i guess it's dead for everything but coro and regen idle body.
It's not best for coro either. It's a regen piece.
Ragnarok.Luloo said: »
So as a mandau owner and totally bad at maths this means i should toss it and tp now on with izh/new dagger+1?
Asura.Taidis said: »
Ragnarok.Luloo said: »
So as a mandau owner and totally bad at maths this means i should toss it and tp now on with izh/new dagger+1?
Ok i understabd but what in terms on tp gain? Would the lower delay of mandau makes ws more frequent? If so i'd rather lose a few points on ws to do actually mores! Thx for help
The base damage, and the 15 dex is so drastic of an improvement on Rudra that it completely outweighs the white damage gains for Mandau.
Just curious about new daggers' additional effect. Is it 100% proc rate? How much is the additional damage? Is it different between nq and hq?
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