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They should just say "*** it" and give every weapon type a WS with replicating http://FTP.

Does not every weapon type have a replicated FTP ws now?

I cannot think of one that does not currently....? Just because a ws replicates, does not make it good.

What they need is to give each type an exorbitantly high FTP ws. So we can all be on BLU's level.

Great axe. I'd love to see it across upheaval and ukkos.

So rudras > evis unstacked?

evis not even competitive

Seeming as rouges in other MMO's can deliver some extreme spike damage I pray to the God of haters that they let us have our fun and not nerf us!

*right-click* view image :P

Ok, so I'm gonna put up some sets for people that care.

Some important points:
Store TP is more important than ever, Rudra's is so *** BROKEN that getting more tp faster, is advantageous.
Agi is almost next to useless for TA
Rudras DEX > basically anything, except attack
Evis/Exe/De all pretty much became completely worthless.
Party sets assume 3+ songs/Cor and Dia II if you have a GEO, good for you. You'll have to figure it out for yourself... sorry.
If you don't agree, by all means, find a better set.
*disclaimer, I NEVER condone the use of Nom+1 nor Yetshila+1*

Adoulin Junk mobs/Salvage Sombra Legs+1 (atoyac WSD) 871 DPS (SOLO)
ItemSet 325105
Adoulin Junk/Salvage unstacked Rudra 7845 average
ItemSet 331590
Adoulin Junk/Salvage SARudra 16396
ItemSet 325152
Adoulin Junk/Salvage TARudra 15667
ItemSet 331591
Party Setting/Delve Fodder Qaaxo C 1977 DPS
ItemSet 326325
Delve Rudra (dex augs) 10549 Average
ItemSet 331598
Delve Stacked SA/TA 19886/18869
ItemSet 331602
Tojil/High Tier Stack/unstack same + Wanion 4341/11699/11027

Holy ***I can't Hit Anything set:
ItemSet 331605

All things being equal, I don't condone random augments... But, felistris is literally .7% ahead of a DA2 Iuitl head.

STP is SURPRISINGLY effective as a DPS increase. I'm kind of amazed. You have to realize that every 1 tp is like... 200 damage on Rudra lol. It's absurd.

I changed one damn thing and I'm trying to re-authenticate my original numbers, i'll put something up in a second.

The assumed amount for TP for ws, changed by about 1% when it was re-run:

It has to do with the fact that the 5stp will get you to Rudra faster, while doing less white damage.

And that for THF, DA is devalued, *** me if I even try to explain the devaluation of DA for a THF though, that's been done, and I forget where.

Artificially adding another 5 STP is another 50 DPS increase.
Sam roll is epic, for racing to rudra.

Changing hunters roll to Sams roll... is a 12% DPS increase, seriously.
Fighter's is only a 7% increase.

i am glad there are number crunchers on this site my attention span is that of a methed out toddler with ADD

So, if my thf is 100 i should take my pants off?

You mention Sombra +1 for fodder content, is that stuff Sup1? There seems to be no links to it atm so I can't tell.

You can see those items here http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/December_2014_Version_Update_Changes

Sombra Tiara +1
DEF:102 HP+66 MP+17 STR+23 DEX+25 VIT+22 AGI+25 INT+22 MND+22 CHR+22 Accuracy+11 Ranged Accuracy+11 Evasion+41 Magic Evasion+43 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+7% "Subtle Blow"+5

Sombra Harness +1
DEF:132 HP+59 MP+29 STR+30 DEX+28 VIT+23 AGI+29 INT+30 MND+24 CHR+24 Attack+16 Ranged Attack+16 Evasion+55 Magic Evasion+64 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+11 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Haste+3% "Triple Attack"+2%

Sombra Tights +1
DEF:114 HP+87 MP+14 STR+28 DEX+6 VIT+15 AGI+29 INT+30 MND+17 CHR+11 Accuracy+11 Ranged Accuracy+11 Evasion+44 Magic Evasion+96 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Haste+5% "Dual Wield"+4

Somhra Leggings +1
DEF:72 HP+53 MP+8 STR+14 DEX+20 VIT+11 AGI+35 INT+3 MND+11 CHR+28 Attack+8 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+8 Evasion+77 Magic Evasion+96 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+3% "Rapid Shot"+5

Sombra Mittens +1
DEF:90 HP+25 MP+38 STR+7 DEX+35 VIT+26 AGI+13 INT+17 MND+30 CHR+17 Magic Accuracy+8 Evasion+27 Magic Evasion+26 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+4% "Fast Cast"+4%

I saw that but none of the items seem to show the sup1 tag and clearly some of them have it.

Yes, all sombra gear is sup1

Damn sucks, guess I won't be using Sombra gear anytime soon!

Get those SA an TA bonuses capped! =D

I'm working on SA right now, sir!

Scragg hasn't updated AH so I can't add the actual data for Sombra legs, that's why it says Sombra legs. But can't be shown.

How many hits does a thf need to reach 1000tp without any stp, and do you know how many stp i need to shave off a hit?

you're going to most likely be using different delay daggers in each hand, which means different tp for each, and the tp will vary with how much dual wield your using. Each hit is also considered independently for multi attack procs, and thf is kind of multi attack heavy, at best you could come up with an average number of attack rounds for a given gear set, but idk how useful it would be realistically.

The reason for the STP is not the traditional "Xhit" the objective, is to get as much tp as possible to overflow, before your TA or SA timer comes up.
(approx)
No DW no STP 20 hits
The set I put up 17 hits
From zero DW zero STP 20 > 19 hits takes 7 STP

For this set, is Oneiros ring behind Rajas by a fair margin? Also what about Nilas gloves instead of Qaaxo c? I don't have a Yetshila +1 but I do have Ginsen(3 stp) which would make up for the stp on Qaaxo.