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 Fenrir.Ramzus
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-11-10 15:24:32
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i'm no thf but i imagine it looks something like this

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By zaxtiss 2017-11-10 15:27:36
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hmmm thanks i got most that so far so looking good :)
i'm going to guess the cape has DA on it?
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-11-10 15:29:20
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I could see some people using Pillager's Vest and Culottes for the extra TA and Crit DMG, need to get Dual Wield elsewhere though and THF already has a ***ton of TA so STP may be more useful. I could see Petrov beating out Hetairoi too.
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 15:55:48
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Cape should be stp on mastered thf also need telos earring, and swap the daggers around, also I forgot the name but the stp ring from the t1 in sky is better than heta ring
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 15:57:17
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Adhemar body and master gives you capped dual wield for the delay on the 2 weapons picked
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By zaxtiss 2017-11-10 15:58:06
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hah i have maybe 30 JP on thf so would DA be better for now?
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 16:04:59
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Than yeah go with DA, only costs a 1000 points for needle to change it at a later date
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By zaxtiss 2017-11-10 16:08:12
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cool thanks guys
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 16:43:42
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Np anytime.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2017-11-10 17:01:08
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Now that the first new Dynamis area is out Plundrer's Poulaines +3 looks like the new best in slot TP piece, and more than likely evisceration as well. Rudra's is still herc for now with 5% WSD and dex/atk augs.
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 17:05:14
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Herc will should still pull ahead due to the 6 ta on them, so mehe, but I need to test it. But I believe 6ta will win
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 17:06:20
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Also herc are not bis for rudras either
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2017-11-10 17:12:11
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My apologies if I'm out of the loop, but what's best in slot for rudra's then?
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By Elazar1 2017-11-10 17:17:08
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
My apologies if I'm out of the loop, but what's best in slot for rudra's then?
lustratio feet and legs +1 are bis for rudras the sets are in this guide just have to look though, they are upto date for the most part.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2017-11-10 17:38:27
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I'd say this set would be the BiS for non-stacked Rudra's:

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For stacked, swap body for AF+3 or Megh +2, ammo for Yetshila/+1.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-11-11 00:59:21
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
I'd say this set would be the BiS for non-stacked Rudra's:

ItemSet 354297

For stacked, swap body for AF+3 or Megh +2, ammo for Yetshila/+1.

This is what I use, but I think I just use the Zhudac ammo because I'm lazy/stingy.
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By silvanesti 2017-11-12 04:04:40
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Does anyone have a waltz set I could have a look at?

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By Asura.Arico 2017-11-12 04:21:51
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Why not fotia?
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By Quendi210 2017-11-12 06:21:15
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
I'd say this set would be the BiS for non-stacked Rudra's:

ItemSet 354297

For stacked, swap body for AF+3 or Megh +2, ammo for Yetshila/+1.

Depending on augments Herculean body could be better. Mine has: 'STR+9','DEX+8','Weapon skill damage +8%','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Mag. Acc.+11 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+11'. We recently had a long DM campaign.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2017-11-12 10:05:49
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Asura.Arico said: »
Why not fotia?

Single hit WS with high fTP aren't Fotias' strong suit

When it's boosting fTP but ~.5 across several hits, they're incredible. Adding .1 to a WS you're probably using at ~10, not as much

Not bad, just not ideal
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By Sylph.Dravidian 2017-11-12 11:01:43
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Quendi210 said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
I'd say this set would be the BiS for non-stacked Rudra's:

ItemSet 354297

For stacked, swap body for AF+3 or Megh +2, ammo for Yetshila/+1.

Depending on augments Herculean body could be better. Mine has: 'STR+9','DEX+8','Weapon skill damage +8%','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Mag. Acc.+11 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+11'. We recently had a long DM campaign.

Most people don't give gear advice around DM augs.
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By Quendi210 2017-11-12 12:06:34
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Sylph.Dravidian said: »
Quendi210 said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
I'd say this set would be the BiS for non-stacked Rudra's:

ItemSet 354297

For stacked, swap body for AF+3 or Megh +2, ammo for Yetshila/+1.

Depending on augments Herculean body could be better. Mine has: 'STR+9','DEX+8','Weapon skill damage +8%','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Mag. Acc.+11 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+11'. We recently had a long DM campaign.

Most people don't give gear advice around DM augs.

I know they don't because they're not consistent. I only pointed it out because the person posting set didn't share their augments and person suggesting replacement didn't ask.
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By Boshi 2017-11-12 14:33:58
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If we're gonna bring in DM then technically 5/5 BIS is dm aug.

One a related note on herc:
while fern will give you more common -usable- augs,
dex15/wsd4 would be better than dex10/wsd5.


Grunfeld Rope, wanion, or artful+1 are bis belt for rudra depending on your attack.
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By DaneBlood 2017-11-12 23:15:59
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Returning player here
im atm in a mix of bayld (Schendie +1) and alluvian skirmish gear.
and will probably be farming that for a while before mvoing on.

Any advice on gearsmix /augments at this level?
perhaps what stuff from escha T1 or T2 to get ?

Is there any plasma gear still i should bee looking at as well?
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2017-11-13 05:45:48
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How does a karieyh ring +1 augmented with 4% weaponskill damage compare to Ilabrat ring in your BiS rudra's setup?
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By geigei 2017-11-13 05:48:34
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
How does a karieyh ring +1 augmented with 4% weaponskill damage compare to Ilabrat ring in your BiS rudra's setup?

About 500dmg more on a 40k+ rudra.
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By Leviathan.Katriina 2017-11-13 06:51:34
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BiS TP [Master THF]?

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Cape STP10
Herc TA4
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-11-13 07:15:46
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DaneBlood said: »
Returning player here
im atm in a mix of bayld (Schendie +1) and alluvian skirmish gear.
and will probably be farming that for a while before mvoing on.

Any advice on gearsmix /augments at this level?
perhaps what stuff from escha T1 or T2 to get ?

Is there any plasma gear still i should bee looking at as well?

Rawhide Vest is pretty good and drops off a T1 Zi'tah NM, IIRC.

Jovian hands, Petrov Ring, Caro Necklace and Grunfeld Rope are also T1 in Ru'Aun.

Delve earrings (Bladeborn, Dudgeon, Heartseeker and Steelflash) aren't too shabby. Asperity Necklace is still useful too. Izhiikoh is a pretty good dagger, if you don't already have something better.

If you are able to get Vagary clears, Empy Head 119 is fantastic. And do the quest line for Erudition Neck.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2017-11-13 09:12:35
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I thought as much. I also use ishvara earring instead of Sherida's for rudras. If 4%wsd is slightly better than 10 dex and 25 attack then surely 2% wsd is also slightly better than 5 dex 5str and 5% da rate. The scale between the two comparisons is almost perfectly linear. I was trusting my gut on that one but I appreciate having some numbers to back it up. Thanks for the confirmation.
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By Asura.Carrotchan 2017-11-13 09:17:03
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DaneBlood said: »
Returning player here
im atm in a mix of bayld (Schendie +1) and alluvian skirmish gear.
and will probably be farming that for a while before mvoing on.

Any advice on gearsmix /augments at this level?
perhaps what stuff from escha T1 or T2 to get ?

Is there any plasma gear still i should bee looking at as well?

The guide on BG Wiki helps a little
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