[Archive] Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide)
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Looking for advice and thoughts on my tp/shoha sets.
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
Yeah, Mekira-oto for active days. And use Thew Bomblet or Cheruski Needle for Shoha.
Lakshmi.Guyledouche said: »
Looking for advice and thoughts on my tp/shoha sets.
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
Mekira should still win on corresponding days, but it's edge is probably pretty minimal due to the difference in base stats available now, since fTP doesn't have as big of an impact on Shoha as it does on many other WS.
You also probably don't need as much attack as you have for most targets, shoha has a huge attack bonus.
Lakshmi.Guyledouche said: »
Looking for advice and thoughts on my tp/shoha sets.
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
gloves are augmented with DA+1
ItemSet 310769
ItemSet 310770
One question on WS head slot, is its still best to use Mekira-oto +1 on the right days?
Thanks
What path did you take your Mikinaak gear Guy? R15 Hands & Feet are the best WS pieces right now if you didn't already do DEX. I would use Thew Bomblet as well.
Your TP set is 1% Haste short, so you really have to make sure Ionis is active in Adoulin to cap it. Otherwise you can switch Goading out for Dynamic +1, I don't quite remember how much STP an Ugui needs to even make a 5hit worthwhile.
Feet are dex path never did augs on hands and thanks for the input
Lakshmi.Guyledouche said: »
Feet are dex path never did augs on hands and thanks for the input
If you manage to get a pair of Otronif feet, augment those with DA and use for TP. From then you can either kill the DEX path on Mikinaak feet to make them WS gear, or just wait until we down Shark for Whirlpool Greaves.
How much store tp do we need for a 4 hit with the shark great katana? I am unable to find that info on this thread.
stp math is in the OP, just use 25 tp for the ws return. Ionis gives an additional 10 save tp, so 35 if you are getting the bonus.
Trying to get some dust off my SAM which I haven't used since before SoA.
Set1 is gear I already have, Set2 is a set I was thinking to build over the next days.
ItemSet 313539
ItemSet 313540
Spreadsheet-wise there is a very small difference between the two sets, favouring the second.
Both are 4-hit (3hits + WS), at least during Ionis. First one has higher stats (acc/str/dex/vit/att etc) and has 26% haste even without Ionis, whereas the second has 24. Altough without Ionis first set stops being 4hit so the point is kinda moot.
Opinions? Any other adjustments?
Set1 is gear I already have, Set2 is a set I was thinking to build over the next days.
ItemSet 313539
ItemSet 313540
Spreadsheet-wise there is a very small difference between the two sets, favouring the second.
Both are 4-hit (3hits + WS), at least during Ionis. First one has higher stats (acc/str/dex/vit/att etc) and has 26% haste even without Ionis, whereas the second has 24. Altough without Ionis first set stops being 4hit so the point is kinda moot.
Opinions? Any other adjustments?
do you guys recommend R.acc or R.atk path for speleogen bow?
Asura.Sechs said: »
Both are 4-hit (3hits + WS), at least during Ionis. First one has higher stats (acc/str/dex/vit/att etc) and has 26% haste even without Ionis, whereas the second has 24. Altough without Ionis first set stops being 4hit so the point is kinda moot.
beniwo said: »
do you guys recommend R.acc or R.atk path for speleogen bow?
I was talking about a "main TP" set. No need atm to make different sets for low/high accuracy situations judging from the stuff I do when I'm in game, and I kinda have no doubts about MDT, PDT and hybrid sets.
So my question was kinda for a main TP set, I suppose. The first one is gear I already have and it's a decent starting point. Second requires some gear I need to get but it should be better, even if the difference is pretty minimal at least judging from the spreadsheet.
I was kinda looking for corrections or suggestions on the second TP set, like stuff I might have forgot which could be better than those I listed.
So my question was kinda for a main TP set, I suppose. The first one is gear I already have and it's a decent starting point. Second requires some gear I need to get but it should be better, even if the difference is pretty minimal at least judging from the spreadsheet.
I was kinda looking for corrections or suggestions on the second TP set, like stuff I might have forgot which could be better than those I listed.
plenty of reason to adjust your tp set based on ionis, buffs, haste or a dozen things besides accuracy. a good Sam will have several mid accuracy sets based on outside buffs.
Well I'll offer 2 basic sets.
With Ionis:
ItemSet 311460
Can use Porthos Byrnie if you don't have 2DA on Otronif Harness. Can also swap Takaha Mantle to Misuuchi Kappa if you use Carbonara or have Samurai Roll.
Without Ionis:
ItemSet 311451
With Ionis:
ItemSet 311460
Can use Porthos Byrnie if you don't have 2DA on Otronif Harness. Can also swap Takaha Mantle to Misuuchi Kappa if you use Carbonara or have Samurai Roll.
Without Ionis:
ItemSet 311451
What Legs should I use for apex arrow if I don't have Tenryu Hakama +1?
has anyone compared ogiers breeches to otronif brais for apex arrow? i'm curious about that
Considering the WSD is only the first hit (apex is only 1 hit), the question is basically does 25STR and 17AGI give you more than 3% increase over naked. I'd wager it does with a WS like Apex. The accuracy and attack on Ogier's is doing nothing for you on a ranged WS.
Odin.Jassik said: »
plenty of reason to adjust your tp set based on ionis, buffs, haste or a dozen things besides accuracy.
Can only think of some small swaps because of capped haste, there must be something else I can't think of atm.
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a good Sam
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
I'm really liking this, thanks! :D
Too bad for the looks lol
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Can use Porthos Byrnie if you don't have 2DA on Otronif Harness.
Actually even Gorney Harness > Porthos according to the SS.
Am I missing something?
Sets that use porthos typically assume that when fully buffed you are accuracy/attack/everything capped on your target, so the only thing you are getting out of your body is multi-attack.
Basically, it assumes that you always have SV madrigals and lucky number or 11 corsair rolls. I'm using the WAR spreadsheet since I don't play SAM, but I only see capped accuracy on tojil with at least 2 of the 3 big accuracy buffs on (aggressor, madrigals, hunter's roll).
Basically, it assumes that you always have SV madrigals and lucky number or 11 corsair rolls. I'm using the WAR spreadsheet since I don't play SAM, but I only see capped accuracy on tojil with at least 2 of the 3 big accuracy buffs on (aggressor, madrigals, hunter's roll).
Asura.Sechs said: »
Uhm... I only have 1DA but Spreadsheet says even 0DA Otronif > Porthos.
Actually even Gorney Harness > Porthos according to the SS.
Am I missing something?
Actually even Gorney Harness > Porthos according to the SS.
Am I missing something?
@Tickmeoff
So a very specific and situational set, I see. Thanks!
No Byrnie anyway, went 0/180 on the shark guy (even got a Delphinius lol!). With my current rl business I don't really have the time or will to organize more Bismarck runs. Not like Byrnie would drop anyway :p
@Llewelyn
Uhm, so adding a very high bunch of DEX as a custom bonus should rule it out, right? Let's see.
Edit: Yes indeed, that's quite a big DPS difference once you rule those factors out. Aww that's too bad! But it's also fine in the end since I never aimed to get that high anyway.
So a very specific and situational set, I see. Thanks!
No Byrnie anyway, went 0/180 on the shark guy (even got a Delphinius lol!). With my current rl business I don't really have the time or will to organize more Bismarck runs. Not like Byrnie would drop anyway :p
@Llewelyn
Uhm, so adding a very high bunch of DEX as a custom bonus should rule it out, right? Let's see.
Edit: Yes indeed, that's quite a big DPS difference once you rule those factors out. Aww that's too bad! But it's also fine in the end since I never aimed to get that high anyway.
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Well I'll offer 2 basic sets.
With Ionis:
ItemSet 311460
Can use Porthos Byrnie if you don't have 2DA on Otronif Harness. Can also swap Takaha Mantle to Misuuchi Kappa if you use Carbonara or have Samurai Roll.
Without Ionis:
ItemSet 311451
With Ionis:
ItemSet 311460
Can use Porthos Byrnie if you don't have 2DA on Otronif Harness. Can also swap Takaha Mantle to Misuuchi Kappa if you use Carbonara or have Samurai Roll.
Without Ionis:
ItemSet 311451
I know byrnie has haste and TA. But did your spreadsheet factor zanshin effect? I'm just curious.
It's 4% TA + 1% QA vs 2-3% Zanhasso (can't use Windbuffet with AF3+2 body) pending merits. Not to mention it can only proc when other forms of multi-attack fail to do so (Fighter's Roll would further devalue this if in play). As for whether it's properly accounted for in spreadsheet calcuations I can't say, but going off that info AF3+2 body really doesn't look very attractive.
Asura.Sechs said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
plenty of reason to adjust your tp set based on ionis, buffs, haste or a dozen things besides accuracy.
Can only think of some small swaps because of capped haste, there must be something else I can't think of atm.
Every situation has a different optimal setup. If you're underbuffed you get more out of different stats. You have to work out the relative stats of whatever you're fighting and which buffs you have. Ionis and accuracy aren't the only consideration.
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a good Sam
No reason you can't aim for the peak without putting a ton of time into the job. Most of the pieces you would cycle around are fairly common, anyway.
Odin.Jassik said: »
Every situation has a different optimal setup.
What are we talking about here exactely? It seems you're starting some rethoric war. Do you want to imply something and I'm missing it? What is your point exactely?
I feel a bit lost.
Can you give some numerical/practical example instead of obvious generic/abstract sentences?
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No reason
Despite me doing some end-game content, doing it this late into the expansion doesn't really mean anything.
I'm still a pretty casual player and, aside maybe from a couple of jobs for which I care particularly, I'm not really interested in being perfect for each of my 10 jobs.
A "reasonable compromise" is usually satisfying enough for me, it puts me well above the average player and is often very soothing for my inventory woes, which will be partially lifted with the incoming Mog Case but alas not completely solved. Maybe that's why I found Llewelyn's replies particulary precious for someone like me. It gives me something to look forward to, but at the same time leaves me the freedom to make my own choices without being judged for them.
tl;dr
I like to get better when I deem the effort/reward ratio reasonable for someone like me, but I do not have the will or the intention to get beyond a certain threshold. This doesn't mean the opposite either (that I don't care about my jobs at all and demand going around permaequipping Lv20 gear with no swaps)
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SAM is so easy to gear perfect, a caveman can do it. playing it right is the only problem, getting the best gear is easy also, aside from the JSE back that still eludes me after countless reives.....
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
SAM is so easy to gear perfect, a caveman can do it. playing it right is the only problem, getting the best gear is easy also, aside from the JSE back that still eludes me after countless reives.....
It is true for pretty much all the jobs cause you have linear damages since the variance from aftermath is not used anymore due to r/m/e being useless.
example would be a viable 3 hit with tsuru if you're getting Sam roll, builds for different ws returns or the low delay mura, capped acc/att multi-hit or even zanshin set, though there are really very few situations where a zanshin set matters. to have all of those sets you'd basically swap around about 5 slots with gear you probably already own.
really the only compromise is that you'd have to do some math and write a few macros because inventory or gil aren't the issue.
really the only compromise is that you'd have to do some math and write a few macros because inventory or gil aren't the issue.
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