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By Fenrir.Svens 2013-05-08 14:26:36

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For ugui, I came up with the following set:

ItemSet 300243

I'm still a beginner sam, so not sure if it's actually a 5-hit, but I think it is with 15 stp during WS and both hits connect. If I'm wrong or there are improvements to be made, let me know. I only made this using FFXI calculator and requiring 5hit, unkai+2 legs, and capped haste (Bonus for not using phorcys as I don't have any).

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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-08 14:29:20

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I'm not going to math out your STP, but 5-hit with conditions isn't a true 5-hit. Aim for a perfect 5-hit, or it'll hurt whenever you miss a hit.

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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2013-05-08 15:05:42

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Would have to get 18 TP back from a WS and I am not really sure how you would pull that off. Also lacking a lot of accuracy that you need for new SoA NMs.

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By Fenrir.Svens 2013-05-08 15:29:38

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It could be the calculator messing up as I still don't have shoha in game, determining that a 2hit ws with +15 stp from gear for sam will yield 18 tp, which should apply to shoha. As for the acc, compared to Taint's set, it would only be +94 acc vs +75 acc, assuming both used ugui. If acc was an issue, I would just forget the 5-hit build and gear for acc instead.

As for the set being a conditional 5-hit, I'm still trying to determine a good build using what I have available. From what I have, trying to make a perfect 5hit would sacrifice too much in stats to make it worthwhile, and double checking with the DPS spreadsheet confirms this, although it may be different in high buff situations. Also, it doesn't seem too bad, only requiring both hits from shoha versus multiple successful hits from a high multihit ws.

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By Asura.Backstab 2013-05-09 05:04:52

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Shiva.Mavre said: »

I'm showing that in order to 5-hit with Ugui you need 55 stp if you are still going to use ItemSet 298509 to shoha in, which I haven't seen anything posted that says this set is not still best for now. Is 55 stp even possible without completely disregarding all other stats?

ItemSet 300300

I show this as a 6-hit, still able to use the above shoha set, 25% haste, and before upgrading the body/weapon, +119 accuracy. I don't have a ton of experience with spreadsheeting and calculating acc/att caps, but I know I have read plenty about how evasive delve nm's are. This may be over the top on accuracy, but its easy enough to sub in other parts (change out ring, ammo, neck for example) if it is too much. Thoughts?

119 acc + loads of dex in the tp set but only like 17 acc in the WS set?

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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-13 05:09:27

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Looked over some of the Mikinaak stuff since I was bored and thought I'd post what I've found. Only played around with Kogarasumaru(AM3) and Masamune(AM1) sets, though. All information is assuming path A and ignoring Yaoyotl Helm/Whirlpool Greaves. Fighter's/Samurai Roll were not used in any comparisons.

Kogarasumaru:

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Masamune:

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Didn't really do any proofreading. Apologies if I derped somewhere.

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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-13 11:47:20

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Went ahead and played with Uguisumaru with Mikinaak stuff as well since I had nothing better to do. Same conditions as my prior post.

Uguisumaru:

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By skyblast 2013-05-13 15:03:35

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nice guide :P lol

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By Gimp 2013-05-14 07:40:20

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Given the delay of ugusiumaru is anyone able to 5 Hit this and cap accuracy on delve bosses and nq mobs?

Android wouldn't let close that gap on 5 hit...

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By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-14 08:21:01

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If by delve boss, you mean inside Naakual, no, that is not possible to 5 hit and cap accuracy unless there is an unknow gimmick but didn't seems like it.

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By Gimp 2013-05-14 08:47:46

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sorry I should clarify I mean stuff like Tax'et and the like.

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By Shiva.Kinzu 2013-05-14 12:50:23

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Anyone have mid level and high level sets for the ugly GKT?

Been gone two weeks, so a bit behind it seems :X.

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ItemSet 299677

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By Shiva.Kinzu 2013-05-14 13:40:42

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Thanks Taint! Seems best to just rock a 6 hit then force a true 5 hit thats probably going to whiff and build tp at the same rate of a 6 hit anyway. The calculator i used showed that in order for a true 5 hit (4 after ws) needed to tp in 53 stp and ws in 11 Stp, thats also counting a 17.3 return on ws which judging the amount of acc we need both shoha hits probably wont land all the time unlike fodder content.

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By Fenrir.Caladbolg 2013-05-14 14:11:25

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Here's a low/mid set for any returning players (it's what I use without brd or cor buffs), tons of acc, all easily available and cheap to get you started:

ItemSet 300997

obvious easy upgrades: belt+1 and mars ring, new earring set (16k plasm), and new feet with dex/acc path (15k or 18k plasm, not sure)

and a WS set with a bunch of accuracy:

ItemSet 301000

for pick up delve groups where you're receiving no buffs. mikinaak breastplate is 20k plasm

Plan to go back and wreck VW, NNI and Salv2, for the necessary pieces after gearing up in delve. May not be the intended path, but it's certainly more efficient.

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By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-15 04:02:03

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Assuming a mob would have about 850 def / 850 evasion, 120 agi, 120 vit.

What would you use ? no rng or war in pt, 4 roll, 8 song, no soul voice.

edit: Assuming average roll, not lucky/XI.

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By mattyc 2013-05-15 09:50:02

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has anyone done math on Miki. Breastplate (Rank 15 path A) against Phorcys for Shoha? interested to hear about that.

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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-05-15 19:38:22

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mattyc said: »

has anyone done math on Miki. Breastplate (Rank 15 path A) against Phorcys for Shoha? interested to hear about that.

Yes, it's a noticeable loss in DPS against Phorcys.

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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-05-26 15:56:47

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I'm going to be finishing my Amano within the week, looking for a bit of advice on an entry level 5hit TP set. I don't do NNI, Delve or Salvage yet, looking to buff up my SAM to get me into the harder level content.

ItemSet 302236

Is this a decent TP set to secure a 5hit with Shoha? Am I overshooting STP here? I can't seem to find a way to cap haste and maintain a 5hit given my gear options (Phos +1 is out of my price range).

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By Azorius 2013-05-26 16:10:23

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I've looked around in this Forum and I figured this would be the appropriate place to ask.

Does anyone have an Apex Arrow set? And what is the Hierarchy to stack? AGI > STR > RATT? Thanks!

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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-26 16:15:07

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Azorius said: »

I've looked around in this Forum and I figured this would be the appropriate place to ask.

Does anyone have an Apex Arrow set? And what is the Hierarchy to stack? AGI > STR > RATT? Thanks!

This is what I use except for the feet which I'm 0/5 on:
ItemSet 298937

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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2013-05-29 23:48:56

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I just got my Yoichinoyumi a couple hours ago, and here's what I'm using so far for Namas:

ItemSet 302660

The legs I'm kind of iffy on... My options (as of right now) are Karieyh brayettes, Ogier's breeches (wasn't sure if the +3% damage would be worth it since no other modifiers are present on that piece), or NQ Tenryu hakama which I suppose I could augment, but meh...

Obviously chocaliztli boots are better in the feet slot, but I haven't gotten a pair as of yet.

Any suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks.

EDIT: I totally forgot that I had mikinaak cuisses- I will use those.

Additional Edit: Yoichinoyumi is now level 99 and my set has been updated.

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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2013-05-30 00:03:17

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off the top of my head Quauhpilli Helm, on days that Mekira don't apply.

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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2013-05-30 00:13:26

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I'm presently 0/6 on quauhpilli helm... I'm pretty much f*ck that dinosaur.

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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2013-05-31 14:57:55

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Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »

Azorius said: »

I've looked around in this Forum and I figured this would be the appropriate place to ask.

Does anyone have an Apex Arrow set? And what is the Hierarchy to stack? AGI > STR > RATT? Thanks!

This is what I use except for the feet which I'm 0/5 on:
ItemSet 298937

Apex even worth it?

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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-31 15:02:34

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Ragnarok.Azryel said: »

I'm presently 0/6 on quauhpilli helm... I'm pretty much f*ck that dinosaur.

Shura+1 is an easy to get alternative

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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-01 00:55:46

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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »

Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »

Azorius said: »

I've looked around in this Forum and I figured this would be the appropriate place to ask.

Does anyone have an Apex Arrow set? And what is the Hierarchy to stack? AGI > STR > RATT? Thanks!

This is what I use except for the feet which I'm 0/5 on:
ItemSet 298937

Apex even worth it?

With Yoichinoyumi, definitely not. With Speleogen Bow, though, with 5/5 merits it does a little bit more than a 99 Yoichi's Namas Arrow, but it's still worse if you're often given the opportunity to self-skillchain, since Apex doesn't skillchain with itself. One upside, though is no Yoichi Aftermath to interfere with your Masa/Amano/Koga if you choose to equip yourself with both bow and REM GK allowing for potentially strong skillchains. Once the REM buff comes around, I don't see any reason to have Apex merited at all unless you don't have a 99 Yoichinoyumi or REM GK.

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Bushido - The Way of The Samurai

Hello everyone! As part of the community here on FFXI AH, I would like to see every job have one of these comprehensive guides that help both mid range and high level players better understand their jobs, gear, and roles in end game Final Fantasy XI.

The goal of this guide is to help fellow players understand everything Samurai related.

There are several extremely knowledgable players on the forums (this one specifically as well) so I will be looking to them for input as well. Please feel free to add any important information and help me compile the best guide possible ^_^!

Table of Contents
I. Samurai Overview
II. A Samurai's Role
III. Equipment and Weapons
IV. Sub Jobs
V. Samurai, Store TP, and You
VI. Utilizing Your Skills
VII. Conclusion

Section I - Samurai Overview

Warriors from the East. Demon Killers. Samurai are experts in wielding the Great Katana and manipulating Tactical Points, allowing the player to unleash a flurry of skills on their enemies quicker than any other class in Vana'diel.

Job Abilities

[Level 1] Meikyo Shisui
(1:00:00 recast - 30 second duration)

Grants the player 300 TP upon use. Allows all weapon skills used during the duration to cost 100 TP. The player is unable to gain any TP unless it is from Meditate or Items. Damage modifiers are based on Total TP at the time of executing the Weapon Skill, not based on TP Consumed (100).

The first Weaponskill used under Meiko Shisui will cost 100TP but will be calculated as a 300TP Weaponskill.
The second Weaponskill will again consume only 100TP but will be calculated as a 200TP Weaponskill.

Enhanced by Saotome Sune-Ate +2 (aug) reducing TP consumed by 25 under the effect of Meiko Shisui, however at least 100TP is still required to perform the Weaponskill.

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[Level 5] Warding Circle
(5:00 recast - 3 minute duration)

Grants "Demon Killer" effect for all party members in range. When used as Samurai Main Job, this ability gives a 15% damage bonus/15% damage resistance against Demons.

Enhanced by Myochin Kabuto/+1 granting an additional 50% duration and 2% to respective bonuses
Myochin Kabuto/+1 is only needed upon activation.

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[Level 15] Third Eye
(1:00 recast Seigan Down, 0:30 recast Seigan Up - 30 second duration/until removed)

Anticipates the next physical attack directed at you. With Seigan active, multiple attacks can be anticipated (higher chance to wear off the longer it is active). More on this later!

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[Level 25] Hasso
(1:00 recast - 5:00 duration)

Grants a bonus to attack speed, accuracy, and STR stat when using two-handed weapons, but increases recast and casting times.

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[Level 30] Meditate
(3:00 recast - 0:15 duration)

Grants 20% TP per tick up to a maximum of 100 TP. When used as a sub, grants 12% TP per tick for a maximum of 60 TP. Can be enhanced heavily with gear.

Enhanced by Myochin Kabuto/+1 adding 1-2 ticks or 120-140 total TP gained

Enhanced by Saotome Kote/+1 adding an additional tick or 20 total TP gained

Enhanced by Saotome Kote +2/(aug) adding an additional 2-3 ticks or 40-60 total TP gained

When Myochin Kabuto/+1 is paired with Saotome Kote +2/(aug) the total TP gained is 180-200

Myochin Kabuto/Saotome Kote are only needed upon activation

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[Level 35] Seigan
(1:00 recast - 5:00 duration)

Grants a bonus to "Third Eye" when using two-handed weapons, but increases recast and casting times.

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[Level 40] Sekkanoki
(5:00 recast - 1:00 duration or until next Weapon Skill)

The next weapon skill used will cost 100 TP regardless of current total TP. Damage modifiers are based on the 100 TP used. TP Bonus weapons do not affect weapon skills used under the effect of Sekkanoki.

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[Level 65] Konzen-ittai
(3:00 recast - 1:00 duration or until next Weapon Skill)

Readies enemy for a skillchain.

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[Level 75 - Merit] Shikikoyo
(5:00 recast)

Share TP above 100 with a party member. The Samurai retains more TP with further merits.

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[Level 75 - Merit] Blade Bash
(3:00 recast)

Delivers an attack that can stun the target and occasionally causes Plauge.

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[Level 77] Sengikori
(3:00 recast - 1:00 duration or until next Weapon Skill)

Grants a bonus to skillchains and magic bursts initiated by your next Weapon Skill.

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[Level 87] Hamanoha
(5:00 recast - 3:00 duration)

Lowers accuracy, evasion, magic accuracy, magic evasion, and TP Gain for Demons.

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[Level 95] Hagakure
(3:00 recast - 1:00 duration or until next Weapon Skill)

Grants Save TP (40) and a TP Bonus (100) to your next Weapon Skill.

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Traits

Resist Blind (grants a small resistance to blind)
Obtained at level 5 with increasing tiers at 25, 45, and 65

Store TP (Increases the amount of TP gained by each attack)
Obtained at level 10 with increasing tiers at 30, 50, 70, 90
Respective values are 10, 15, 20, 25, and 30

Zanshin (Occasionally grants an additional attack)
This is the defining Job Trait for Samurai and has 2 different functional effects which will be further explained in the Job Ability section
Obtained at level 20 with increasing tiers at 35, 50, 75, and 95
Respective values are 15%, 25%, 35%, 45%, and 50%

Demon Killer (Occasionally Intimidates demon's)
Killer Effects are incredibly potent when utilized, however due to the lack of effective gear to enhance the trait its largly a minor bonus. It is unkown if Samurai gets succesive tiers of this trait.

Skillchain Bonus (Increases the damage of skillchains created by the Samurai)
Obtained at level 78 with increasing tiers at 88 and 98
Respective values are 8%, 12%, and 16%

While Samurai is regarded as the master of skillchains with the ability to repeatedly skillchain with almost any weapon or job as well as itself in quick succession, Dancer gets 2 succesive tiers of this trait reaching 23% Skillchain damage bonus at level 97.

Merited Traits

(obtained at level 75)

Ikitoshen (increases the TP gained by a Zanshin attack)
Grants an additional 3 TP per merit before Store TP is added
Formula: Zanshin TP = [base weapon TP + (3 x Ikitoshen merits)] x Total Store TP
Assuming 437 delay (masamune/amano) [11.1 + (3 x 5)] x 1.88 = 49.068 Floored to 49
49 ADDITIONAL
Enhanced by Saotome Kabuto +2 (aug)
Adds 1% critical hit rate to Zanshin attacks per Ikitoshen merit

Also worth noting:

Ikkishoten may be useless unless it doubles your TP before sTP. 460 Delay gives 12 TP, exact same as 4/5 Ikki merits. If your delay is higher, you should do 5/5 merits or calculate how much extra sTP you need so you don't get stuck at just under 100 TP.
Thank you to Castanets/Ichito of Phoenix for this~

Overwhelm (obtained at level 75)
Grants a damage bonus to Weaponskills performed face to face
Adds a straight % to qualifying Weaponskills
5% per merit for the first 3 and 2% for the last 2 merits
Overwhelm is NOT present for Ranged Weaponskills regardless of orientation

--- HUGE Thanks To Jassik for the Trait Breakdown Section as well as help on the Job Ability Section---

Merits

Recommended merit build: 5/5 Store TP, 5/5 Meditate. 5/5 Overwhelm. 5/5 Ikishoten. Do 4/5 Ikis and 1/5 Blade Bash if your stunners are fail faces.

Group 1
Third Eye Recast - Shorten recast time by 2 seconds.
Warding Circel Recast - Shorten recast time by 10 seconds.
Store TP Effect - Increases amount of TP stored by 2.
Meditate Recast - Shortn recast time by 6 seconds.
Zanshin Attack Rate - Increases Zanshin attack rate by 1 percent.

Group 2
Shikikoyo - Shares TP above 100 with a party member. Supplement TP shared by 12%.
Blade Bash - Delivers an attack that can stun the target and occasionally cause plague. Requires a Great Katana. Increase plague duration by 15 seconds.
Ikishoten - Increases amount of TP gained with a Zanshin attack. Increase TP gained by 3.
Overwhelm - Grants a damage bonus to weapon skills performed face-to-face with an enemy. Increase damage bonus by 5% for the first three points, and by 2% for the final 2 points.

Section II - A Samurai's Role

What role does a Samurai fill in a party?

Damage Dealer
A Samurai's primary and most effective role is dealing high frequencies of damage. Samurais are considered one of the big three in the current end game in regards to DDs.

Samurai is extremely effective at outputting high bursts of damage with their various abilities and traits that allow them to use Weapon Skills more frequently than any other job. Most of your damage will come from spamming Shoha/Fudo/Kaiten.

Tank
Tanking in FFXI has become folklore at this point but can still be necessary in some low-man events.

With the proper gear sets, Samurai can be very effective as a tank with and without the use of Seigan/Third Eye. Seigan/Third Eye becomes even more effective with Unkai Kabuto/Saotome Haidate and other complimenting pieces of gear. More on this later.

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