Goku Vs. Superman

OK fair enough, I looked it up.

"P1M Artist Management | Hair | Makeup | Styling | Fashion Direction | Manicure | Off Figure | Prop & Set Design."

What an odd thing for you to reference...

Eh, not necessarily true. Superman suffers from the same problem that a lot of comic book characters have: multiple writers. In one story, Lex Luthor had a ring made with a small amount of kryptonite, and this was enough to keep Superman at bay. If a pathetic human can utilize a small amount of kryptonite as a trump card against the ever-OP man-of-steel (without taking hours as you claim), then I'm pretty sure Goku would be able to outright destroy him with the same method.

The effect of kryptonite wildly varies from one author to the next, so just as it's probably not fair to assume that kryptonite would leave him instantly crippled if Goku used it against him, it's also probably not fair to assume that it would do practically nothing. If someone as powerful as Goku can't use it to any effect, then there isn't much reason for it to exist as Superman's main weakness in the first place.

He could teleport him to "other world" where there is no sun at all...

doesn't superman usually almost always holds back his powers

Or you could actually look up superman P1M to the relevance of this thread instead of posting dumb stuff. Logic would indicate it was related to Superman...

Why would I know that had anything to do with Superman?
People on the net use little obscure phrases like that all the time.

Sounds like the nonsensical response I expected. You even followed it up with an inaccurate pic, nice!

Superman Prime One Million. You can choose to look it up or not. If you're using Goku's God form then P1M is supermans. They both fight at the maximum levels (God form) or these arguments are irrelevant. P1M wins.

It every instance Kryptonite is used, it never kills him regardless of writer. Also the strongest form of Superman is like was said, well over 20 years old. Pre-Crisis it was difficult to write any storylines because he had just become too strong for there to be any possible opponents. This is the SAME version everyone keeps glancing over. After the late 70/80's reboot he become weaker and slowly regained some of his powers, but never anywhere near the extent of what he once was. With this newer reboot he's no where near a shadow of what he used to be.

Also, Superman was able to break thru the wall of the edge of the universe and go face to face with Eternity when he was struggling with unanswered questions. He gained a portion of his knowledge/powers from that fight and used it to resurrect his love interest and do several other things which would be considered miracles by bible standards. By that point Supes' is basically partially omnipotent if not fully, hence the need for several reboots. How are you going to beat someone that knows what you are going to do next and what you are thinking?

Want a version Goku can beat? Pick the one from the Earth that can't fly and can 'jump over buildings in a single bound' and is 'is more powerful than a locomotive.' You guys do realize DC is a multiverse with several versions of its storylines, right? That's why the what-ifs are possible. DBZ is also a multiverse, none of the movies from back in the day were canon. He turned Super Sayajin in a movie before he had done it in the anime if I remember correctly. Take the strongest incarnation of both universes, and the fight leans to Superman. Take the strongest version of Goku and pit him against the weakest version of Superman that used to wear yellow instead of blue, then of course fight leans to Goku.

I'm a fan of both series, I wish others would put in as much attention to details as to both series as the rest of us have.

Eh, Superman P1M is cheating. I could write my own comic where I have all of his powers, but I'm 1% stronger. God mode for any character as an argument is just lame.

Then Goku's god mode can't be used.

No, its canon and it counts. It's not like he just left and stayed in the Sun for a million years w/o anyone left on Earth to protect it for the sake of it. There were still (several) replacement Supermen that took up that task while he was away, hence the name Superman Prime (as in the one that was first and matters). It's no different than Goku cheating to train in the hyperbolic time chamber.

And as for how it would really play out? Superman would destroy Goku in and instant and resurrect him in the next and tell him "I told you so." He could make him die a million deaths and resurrect him a million times for Goku to level up thru weakeness and he still wouldn't touch Superman. If I were Goku, I would use Superman as a powerlvl, just saying.

This would be a fatal error for Superman. With the formula that makes Goku stronger (Goku's strength increases dramatically everytime he is beaten near death or to death), he would eventually be an even match and inevitably become stronger and win.

Goku doesn't gain omnipotence, you are missing the point. That version of Superman is beyond space time. Atleast he could legitimately be the second strongest that way though.

Superman does not have omnipotence. If he did, he wouldn't even have to fight, ever. If he were omnipotent he would be literally God and creator of all things. He would have never been born, he would have just always been eternal with no end or beginning. Obviously Superman is not those things so he is by no means "god-like" or anything remotely resembling omnipotence.

except he did gain omnipotence by passing through the source wall and facing eternity...

Almost every source I can find claims that Superman P1M is non-canon, and is only a possible future. Again, just some ambitious writers who felt the need to god-mode a character who already has too few flaws. Same goes with Dragonball GT, which by many people (and Akira Toriyama himself) is not considered canon.

Thanks! I knew we could reach an agreement.

P1M and GT should be thrown out of this equation. If filler is allowed then all filler is allowed and so Goku goes SSJ15 and has infinite power resulting in a draw.

Superman was like a god but from what I heard, they massively weakened him, and in battle of gods/revival of F, Goku got even stronger, and actually BECAME a god, and learned to use God Ki. You should compare Superman in whatever the current run is, and Goku as in the most recent movie (Revival of F). If we do that, Goku I think would win easily. I mean, Batman can beat superman with kryptonite and with whatever plans, but can Batman beat Goku? I don't think so, unless he got the drop on him or used something like poison or some such lol

Superman Prime, nuff said

I also agree that this is stupid, because what we really want to know is, "do you prefer goku or superman?" If you were the writer, who would win?

1 billion google-plex kilograms equals 1 kilogram. This is true because I am the writer of a comic book where measurements mean whatever I want them to mean for separated universii that exist outside the confines of physics as we have come to accept as laws.

Universii is spelled correctly because I wrote it, and I am the creator.

Obviously the end all be all winner for those kind of match ups would be Parker Lewis, because Parker Lewis can't lose.

Love all the different names in the second vid. Ohh and the flying pickle haha

Tired of this. Let's end it. Fusion of Goku and Superman. Ruler supreme of the entire universe-galaxy-allabove.

But who would win in a fight between fusion Goku/Superman VS fusion Bizzaro Goku/Bizarro Superman?

Now this would be quite the match up!

SCIENCE!