Best Non Emp/relic/mythic Dyna Farming Axes

Im just wondering what you guys think are the optimal axes for farming currency in dyna on bst outside of emp/relic/mythic. I'm going to be doing a lot in the next little while.

I know OA2-4 isnt very popular, but strickly for dyna, would it be good? Or would I still be better off making the DA +11 one. Then what about main hand? Im guessing STR path?

Thx.

Dual wield two of these bad boys.

pet pdt

Get 2 Pet PDT Astolfos, so you don't need to heal your pet as much. You will also get a lot of Vitality on those. STR Astolfos can be good, specially if your duoing with a Thief, as the pet won't be dieing as much, procs will be more frequent, and the TH will help if you happen to kill a mob that refuses to proc.

Edit: The Double Attack magian axe is pretty nice, it would do you better in places like Abyssea, but STR Astolfo is probably easier to make.

STR and DA are a good combo. PDT barely matters in Dynamis since your pet is evading most hits. With a proper Reward set, you'll minimize the use of pet food.

That said, the PDT axes are super easy and cheap to make if you want a high base damage axe right away.

Yes for any starting BST, Pet PDT axes should be what you're aiming for, and some of the trials happen to be on the same mobs in the same area, so you can do two trials at once. Also Soil Geodes are much cheaper nowadays.

You should save the geodes you get during the trial, then buy the rest.

Thnx for the input guys. I'm curious though...are the PDT axes the best option? I'm only asking because atm (my apologies for not giving more background in my original post) I'm using 99PDT in main hand and 99 OA2-4 in offhand. I'm using less than a stack of Zetas each time I enter. Ive seen a number of posts where ppl say they average 200+ coins but I'm having trouble breaking into 200. I have capped haste and a decent ruininator set. I'm thinking where I could make the most ground in raising the amount of currency I get would be to increase dmg output via the axes I use.

Beat my last post. I think I'll aim for these then. Thx.

I'm not sure how people manage to get over 200 a run, specially when the zones are always crowded. I think my record was about 190 but it was seriously dead, and I happened to have a flawless run.

Still got somethings to get for my BST, some reward gear and +2 augmented relics. I would like to know how people manage to do so well, specially in dreamlands where you usually have to fight over pops.

Axes that give the most damage are best. As Pleebo said, Pet-PDT isn't very useful except to make a very quick, high base damage axe. Pet-evasion axes fall in to the same category. Of course, if your BST is mostly for farming dynamis for money, it's a little counterproductive to spend a lot of money on flame geodes to make a STR axe.

It will also depend on your playstyle with BST. I haven't played BST in dyna in a LONG time, but when I did, I remember that I let my pet do the majority of the damage while I spent my time just trying to proc mobs. So there is a lot of time where you are getting attacked as well. Of course, if there is competition around, you have to be wary of people taking kills off your pet so your playstyle may differ or may change based on circumstance.

The type of gear your BST has will play in to this as well. My TP gear was a somewhat hybrid mix for both me and my pet. When I did use BST, I used the set below. (Axes are pet-PDT). If I were to still take BST seriously, I would upgrade my axes to maximize my farm potential. However, I found other jobs to be far better so I gave up on BST.

BST TP


Ruinator

I'd stick to at least one axe -pet damage taken, if not both axes. They are cheap and easy to make. This keeps the majority of the rest of your equipment slots available to gear up as much for your own DD as you like. Keep in mind gear that also boosts your pets DD as well.

Once you got the gil and time, make a Str/Atk Axe, or even 2.

I got Farsha, 2x STR Astolfo, 2x -PDT, and a Aytanri (before cells came out ._. ) -- Farsha sucks outside of a brew. I wish I made a club instead ... The Str/Atk axe does show some DD output improvements but at the cost of pets dropping faster under stronger mobs. Aytanri is good, roughly equivalent to a Str axe, but with people paying 10M for cells, I'd sell it now if I could and build a second Str axe. On complete fodder mods, Aytranri pulls off consistent higher WS numbers, but on DC dyna or harder, Str Astolfo is better by a decent margin in my tests. I've run multiple parses on my own through numerous dyna runs. Str/PDT almost always comes out ahead on DC mobs and NM's vs Aytanri/PDT. I tried to convince myself that the Aytanri was cool and could win but sadly it only did in Abyssea, or on EP dyna mobs (sometimes).

Aytanri 78DMG +10 STR, +10 DEF, Attack varies by defense
Str/Atk 74DMG +11 STR +22Atk

Check the DPS spreadsheets, they'll show you as well the Str axes come out slightly on top on DC mobs. Aytanri a close second.

Guttler out does both, though you'll want a STR axe offhand then anyways :)

BLU/DNC, THF/DNC, or DNC/THF

If these jobs are very well-geared, they will do much better than BST due to having TH2 (or higher) and decent challenge camps have very little competition.

Go when it's not crowded and farm mobs that aren't targeted by other players. I've pulled in 200-600 a few times with luck on 100 pieces. Oddly enough, the 500-600's came from Jeuno, and not dreamlands.

There's more NMs in cities so depending on luck you can get wonderful amounts of currency in a run. Somebody on BST solo is never going to farm 100s and 100s in a dreamlands just killing nightmare monsters. A friend and me managed to farm 788 in a single Bastok run a couple months back.

All just depends on luck but add some of the roaming NMs to your kill order in dreamlands. On Lakshmi at least the tree and goobbue NM are rarely killed in Valkurm.

Keep in mind that in currency threads, when people say 'average' they really mean 'max'.

PUP/THF should be similar, given the nature of automaton procs

Shhhhhhh...

I enjoy my 100% competition-free Dynamis runs. Though I don't see the PUP bandwagon starting up anytime soon.

The job is its own deterrent

Capping the ranged frame alone took longer than summoning skill

How much are you claiming to pull in on these jobs?

I've gone on bst , pup and blue a lot. I bring in more on BST, very solidly.

DNC w/ sub locked is great for trying to get white proc's, but its really not reliable.

I am talking about solo runs of course.

Also for whomever is talking about hunting DC mobs, I've only found this good when going in a small group. Kill speed on doc's is just not fast enough to compete solo w/ farming ep's.
Are you able to consistently bring in, ~200 singles on dc mobs solo?
Or on any of these other jobs solo on ep's?

I only go in without a subjob if I'm with somebody else. If I'm solo I'd sooner go /THF and get a higher average drop rate over the ridiculously low chance of a 100.

Best runs I had we were : BRD/WHM, SAM/DNC, THF/DNC. Really don't know why you would go with lower speed unless you don't have the choice.

When I've gone BLU\DNC + THF\DNC dualbox lately I've been reliably getting 350-420 (depending on competition) doing DC mobs.

Edit: Double-checked my numbers, said a bit too high at first

Here's what I'm using on BST

TP

(Astolfo are pet PDT, hauberk is INT +2, Store TP +6, Double Attack +2)

Pet Tank TP (Dynamis Build, basically)

(Anwig Salade is pet: haste +5, damage taken -10%)

Ruinator


Long story short, I stand behind the pet PDT axes... They have good base DMG, they're relatively easy and inexpensive to make, and they keep your pet alive longer- pair with Anwig Salade and you'll have a pet that takes a pretty good beating.

This sounds like you are making about the same as a solo bst then. 175~210 for a solo run.

May I follow in and ask some suggestions? Got tired of Rampage hardly ever going over 2k so I deleted Blade: Shun and got Ruinator.
Got some questions, lots of stupid "what's better?" questions.

Weapons
Using Morta NQ axe MH and Dragua's axe OH, mainly because it helps with regaining charges for when I'm spamming ready commands during spur, to proc with AoE TP moves etc.
While I'm hunting for TE I use the Regain axe.
Anything better I can buy off the AH or that's an easy drop from some NM? Aside from Astolfos, which would be awesome but atm I really don't have time to dedicate to them.

TPset
I was using a lame set with
AF3+2 head, body, legs, feet, neck
Brego hands, Twilight belt, atheling, Epona, Rajas, Suppa, Brutal.
I see a lot of people using different combinations with haste on feet (I have Ghadnab) to keep haste cap with Moepapa.
Is it really worth? I was always afraid to make my pet too strong, forcing me to spam Hell for all those nightmare mobs you can't proc in time.
Also, I have Ocelo+1/Toci, would that be a better combination compared to AF3+2head/body? 1% less haste (less than that actually) but more TA, DA etc.
Altough I'd lose DA from feet since I'd be equipping Ghadnab to make Moepapa belt viable.


Ruinator
Body/Head: Toci+Twilight I guess for body/head, given my current options (no phorcys)
Feet: AF3+2 feet vs Dilaram?
Legs: Avant Cuisses+1 vs Ogier? I suppose Avant?

If you have time to do Dynamis, you have time to at least make a -pdt Astolfo to replace that Charmer's Merlin. It could just be a matter of skipping Dynamis for a few days and working on the trials. They go by quickly.

No such thing as making your pet too strong. It's better that you kill too quickly instead of too slowly. I never really bothered with any kind of hybrid set, though, so I would suggest Oce +1, Toci's, and Twilight Belt.

For Ruinator, Mekira Oto +1/Toci's/Dilaram/Avant. Also, use the corresponding gorget/belt if you're not already doing so.

Waaahhh

Since we're dispensing asinine advice that no one asked for, how about you just duo DCs and never compete with a BST again?

funny, Neo, Pleebo is paraphrasing you for the "WAAAAAHHH" because that's all you are saying. ARe you gonna hate on a job in the game or grow up and acknowledge that player behavior doesn't relate to the job at all?

In fact crowded dynamis is a design problem. WS proc's and magic proc's were not made in proper consideration of practical application. There's a very good player examination of this on the SE forums. If WS and magic proc's were more viable, the congestion would not be a problem.


you saying thats a thf/dnc and dnc/--- duo?

4x 100 pieces and 466 singles is very impressive. Its so impressive, that its hard to believe for a single run with only 2x players.

I'd like to see the rest of the story. You willing to share a copy of the parse file after saving it w/out user data?

I see it doesn't say what forgotten items its dropping... presumably to hide the zone? so its been tampered with even though its a screenshot from the parser. It wouldn't be hard to compile the loot drops from multiple runs to show that, or for it to be from a larger group.

I understand if you dont' want to share the parse because you have such a sweet setup for bringing in the ancient currency and don't want to share it.. and have competition from it...

however I find it hard to believe it would be so easily kept a secret if that were true. If you are protecting such a sweet currency maker, then you can't really afford to claim you have a better average loot in dynamis than a solo bst.

You can win the argument or protect your hypethetical secret, but you can't have both. Frankly, I think it more likely you are exaggerating some details for epeeen reasons.

Edit: Wow, he deleted his post... wish I would have full quoted first....