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By Asura.Fiv 2013-07-26 11:00:14
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If i'm not mistaken, this set is only 5-hit if you land all 4 hits of upheaval or are you using samurai roll?
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By Asura.Fiv 2013-07-27 03:30:13
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Asura.Fiv said: »
ItemSet 285673

If i'm not mistaken, this set is only 5-hit if you land all 4 hits of upheaval or are you using samurai roll?
I checked it myself, and as i had thought, it is only 5 hit if all 4 hits land and your armada hauberk has 5 store tp. I assume your using rogue's roll, or just not accounting for samurai roll if your using that.

So i decided to play with this a bit, since both of the groups i go with use samurai roll instead of rogue's roll now. For the above and the rest of this post, i set rogue's roll to 12% crit hit rate and samurai's roll to 10 store tp. I had to use FFXIclopedia for rogue's numbers, i'm not sure how accurate they are, but these are safe rolls with no risk of busting, and no bonus.

Target: Tojil
Defense Down %: 45%
Food: Sole Sushi
Buffs: Berserk/Aggressor/Restraint/Warcry/Haste/Marchx2/Minuentx3/Madrigalx2/Chaos/Fighters/Hunters
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ItemSet 285673
This set, with rogue's roll i have 1091.944 Total DPS.

ItemSet 309271
This set, with samurai's roll i have 1103.113 Total DPS.
This set also allows you to miss 1 hit upheaval (aside from the first of course), and if your hauberk augments are not perfect, this set still maintains 5-hit if all 4 hits land, or you can use asperity necklace instead of portus collar for room for error in WS returns, it will still come ahead of the prior set.

Mind you this is 10 store tp from samurai's roll if you roll a 3, most of the possible rolls actually provide even more store tp, but this is the safer route. Where as rogue's roll, i went with lucky 5, which is much less then i thought it would be at 12%, the only thing higher is an 11 which is 19%, according to FFXIclopedia. Without changing the sets, and increase the roll values, the results generally remain the same. As i said, my groups are already using samurai's roll, if anyone wants to verify these numbers and decide if switching their group from rogue's roll is worth it, i personally made a toggle between the 2 sets.
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By Bahamut.Malothar 2013-07-27 13:47:47
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Had a friend talking about eating Arrabbiata last night. I didn't have time to look into what sets you could make with it, but does anything stick out as viable or a big enough boost (from not having to gear the STP) to warrant losing 2 Str and 30 att? +125 HP too for more survivability. Sounds expensive though considering the dragon meat and only being able to T1 it (I think? /dumb about crafting).
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By Phoenix.Ayrendel 2013-07-29 12:48:12
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Asura.Fiv said: »
I checked it myself, and as i had thought, it is only 5 hit if all 4 hits land and your armada hauberk has 5 store tp.
Although I have 6stp on e.body, it should still be a 5 hit with only 5. 19.5 tp return from 3/4 hits landing on Upheaval while WSing in Karieyh feet, Brutal, and Yaoyotl helm, then 20.6 tp per swing with 5stp on Armada.
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By Asura.Solara 2013-07-29 14:55:12
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Asura.Fiv said: »
So i decided to play with this a bit, since both of the groups i go with use samurai roll instead of rogue's roll now. For the above and the rest of this post, i set rogue's roll to 12% crit hit rate and samurai's roll to 10 store tp. I had to use FFXIclopedia for rogue's numbers, i'm not sure how accurate they are, but these are safe rolls with no risk of busting, and no bonus.

In practice you're likely to average closer to 7-8% crit rate for the run with rotating Corsairs.
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By Asura.Fiv 2013-07-29 15:22:04
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Ya, i was trying to give rogue's roll the benefit of the doubt so to say. It likely is still superior for the monks in the group, but the more 2 handers that go and account for samurai roll, it pulls ahead quite a bit.

Also for people who don't care to use samurai roll, i have this set ahead of the posted best set when restraint is up, if anyone cares to double check.
ItemSet 309522
Rank 15 miki feet, str best, dex still works however. This set only works with 5 or more stp on armada hauberk and all 4 hits of upheaval landing.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2013-07-29 17:06:33
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Asura.Fiv said: »
Also for people who don't care to use samurai roll, i have this set ahead of the posted best set when restraint is up, if anyone cares to double check.
ItemSet 309522
Rank 15 miki feet, str best, dex still works however. This set only works with 5 or more stp on armada hauberk and all 4 hits of upheaval landing.

After August 6th, can just use Carbonara, and probably now with maximum buffs/debuffs, on current Restraint Up set to make up the 5 stp it's short without losing DPS to RCB.
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By Asura.Fiv 2013-07-29 17:44:14
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I actually just use sole sushi for delve, aside from bee and gnat, normal sets and sushi tend to cap accuracy, where as accuracy sets and RCB doesn't always. I really don't do anything but delve NMs and bosses though. I agree though, post update will likely change that, and carb with the store tp and hp will be superb.
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2013-07-30 09:12:24
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Quick question. For ixtab upheaval ws since Windbuffet is now 3 million is it better to use flAme belt or Caudata belt? Thanks.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-07-30 17:49:07
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Lakshmi.Amymy said: »
Quick question. For ixtab upheaval ws since Windbuffet is now 3 million is it better to use flAme belt or Caudata belt? Thanks.
The difference between those two is around .1% and can swing in either direction depending on slight buff changes, so they are basically equivalent. Here's the three values in my current setup for your curiosity:

Caudata: 1135.116
Elemental: 1137.163
Windbuffet: 1137.768

It's kind of ridiculous how many pieces are this close lately.
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By Cajj 2013-07-30 20:26:34
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is ws gorget beating out apathy as well with Ixtab Upheavals?
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By Odin.Godofgods 2013-08-02 13:03:51
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any suggestions on this rly crappy -pdt set? (For the record i made it at 4am with a massive headache lol.) Unfortunately most of the decent pieces require content I'm not doing atm like odin v1/2 or VW (not that theres much of that left now) and other such types. I rly don't use war, so i will admit that I'm just looking for a fast cheap set to hit as close to 50% as i can (without spending millions in a piece.) Preferably without a earth staff, but since I'm relegated to low end pieces i figure i would have to.

ItemSet 309852


EDIT

Bit more expencive, but still only at 41% which means id need staff. Which makes speading that extra gil a waste.

ItemSet 309914
Dark rings only 4/3%
Legs are 4% aug
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2013-08-05 10:49:04
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i'm helping a returning friend get ready for nni next weekend.
he just got ixtab and he already have empy-1 lvl99

im looking for gearsets (tp and ws one for each) that are "out of abysseas" stage
meaning he has all emp+2 gear

- no nni gear
- no salvage v2 gear
- have meebles batalia win (one single goal3 run through missions)
- I will give him about 1 mill to get ah stuff
- around 20.000 plasma
- around 16.000 bayld
- he has rose strap
- race elvan
- food will be rcb

ty for all the help

-- edit ---
correct what could be misunderstood as asking for a fulltiming set.
im looking for one tp set and one ws set ( 2 sets in all)
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-08-05 10:56:00
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Phoenix.Gaiarorshack said: »
i'm helping a returning friend get ready for nni next weekend.
he just got ixtab and he already have empy-1 lvl99

im looking for gearsets (tp and ws) that are "out of abysseas" stage
meaning he has all emp+2 gear

- no nni gear
- no salvage v2 gear
- have meebles batalia win (one single goal3 run through missions)
- I will give him about 1 mill to get ah stuff
- around 20.000 plasma
- around 16.000 bayld
- race elvan
- food will be rcb

ty for all the help



Ixtab/Pole//Ravagers
Karieyh/Ravagers/Ravagers/Brutal
AF3+2/Karieyh/Rajas/Tyrant's
Atheling/goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

Tyrant's and Pole only item he'd need to buy and they are both very cheap.
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By kogasho 2013-08-05 13:38:41
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This page is missing some Ixtab :(
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-05 13:50:03
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Lol Ixtab. Should be using Razorfury anyway.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-08-05 13:53:36
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
any suggestions on this rly crappy -pdt set? (For the record i made it at 4am with a massive headache lol.) Unfortunately most of the decent pieces require content I'm not doing atm like odin v1/2 or VW (not that theres much of that left now) and other such types. I rly don't use war, so i will admit that I'm just looking for a fast cheap set to hit as close to 50% as i can (without spending millions in a piece.) Preferably without a earth staff, but since I'm relegated to low end pieces i figure i would have to.

ItemSet 309852


EDIT

Bit more expencive, but still only at 41% which means id need staff. Which makes speading that extra gil a waste.

ItemSet 309914
Dark rings only 4/3%
Legs are 4% aug

This is the DT set I used on WAR. Kinda a one size fits all. It's 41% excluding the dark rings, so basically capped MDT with shell V and as long as your have 9% PDT between the 2 dark rings, you'd be capped.

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By Asura.Emoneaone 2013-08-06 10:31:23
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Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Lol Ixtab. Should be using Razorfury anyway.

I will as soon as you buy me one. Until then, Ixtab. Not all of us are made of gil. Please remember that.
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-06 10:35:37
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Asura.Emoneaone said: »
Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Lol Ixtab. Should be using Razorfury anyway.

I will as soon as you buy me one. Until then, Ixtab. Not all of us are made of gil. Please remember that.

You mad, bro?

You can make a Razorfury for 14-15mil now. Rockfin Tooth is dropping in price. Anyways find a good linkshell and get it for free...
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By Asura.Emoneaone 2013-08-06 10:48:56
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Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Asura.Emoneaone said: »
Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Lol Ixtab. Should be using Razorfury anyway.

I will as soon as you buy me one. Until then, Ixtab. Not all of us are made of gil. Please remember that.

You mad, bro?

You can make a Razorfury for 14-15mil now. Rockfin Tooth is dropping in price. Anyways find a good link shield and get it for free...

Neither angry nor insane. 10 mil is more than I have, what can I say? Just remember that not everyone playing the game has the gil for the uber, ok? So don't denigrate them.
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-06 10:58:57
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This is a warrior guide why not have the best if you can get it is what i meant by lol Ixtab. That's like using a widowmaker when you can work hard and get a ukon. Anyways I'm over it. Hope you get a Razorfury soon.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-08-06 11:10:30
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Lolrazorfury why get one when it will be out classed when the delve tree is released. So that 14-25mil you pay now will be a 13-24mil loss of gil.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-08-06 11:13:02
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Leviathan.Mckeag said: »

You mad, bro?

You can make a Razorfury for 14-15mil now. Rockfin Tooth is dropping in price. Anyways find a good link shield and get it for free...

Linkshell is a shell (like oyster shell) which allows you to communicate. Links you to other people who hold pearls from that shell.

Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
This is a warrior guild why not have the best if you can get it is what i meant by lol Ixtab. That's like using a widowmaker when you can work hard and get a ukon. Anyways I'm over it. Hope you get a Razorfury soon.

This just reeks of a WoW moron. While 15M isn't a LOT of gil, it's incredibly douchy to portray someone with one of the top 3 Gaxe's like this... and WTF is a Warrior guild?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-06 11:31:24
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With this update, isn't Ares' cuirass +1 worth it now?
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-06 11:56:09
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lol never played WoW in my lifetime.

And darn auto correct on my phone for all the mistake, thanks for pointing them out though. Appreciate it.
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-06 12:16:13
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Lolrazorfury why get one when it will be out classed when the delve tree is released. So that 14-25mil you pay now will be a 13-24mil loss of gil.

I know right.. I can't wait for my 99 relic great axe to rule again. Soon... very soon....
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-08-06 12:19:23
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Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Odin.Creaucent said: »
Lolrazorfury why get one when it will be out classed when the delve tree is released. So that 14-25mil you pay now will be a 13-24mil loss of gil.

I know right.. I can't wait for my 99 relic great axe to rule again. Soon... very soon....

It never ruled outside of the utility of the aftermath or when acc was severely lacking.

To put it in perspective, it would be like someone chastising you for trying to gear for Bravura when you should have just made Conqueror. How dare you want advice on lolBravura!
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2013-08-06 12:29:06
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Leviathan.Mckeag said: »
Odin.Creaucent said: »
Lolrazorfury why get one when it will be out classed when the delve tree is released. So that 14-25mil you pay now will be a 13-24mil loss of gil.

I know right.. I can't wait for my 99 relic great axe to rule again. Soon... very soon....

It never ruled outside of the utility of the aftermath or when acc was severely lacking.

To put it in perspective, it would be like someone chastising you for trying to gear for Bravura when you should have just made Conqueror. How dare you want advice on lolBravura!

Okay i get your point. Shame on me then.
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By Bahamut.Kukudawg 2013-08-06 21:57:50
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is there an updated MS upheaval set? i see the max one but dont know if it would be the same with MS up
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-07 10:54:25
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
With this update, isn't Ares' cuirass +1 worth it now?
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