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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-01 21:58:17
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tp bonus is locked in, traditionally att was the other, but you could make a case for acc at this point.
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By Phoenix.Ayrendel 2013-07-01 21:59:28
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Moonshade bonus and acc or attack. Used to always be attack, but with the new content I've been thinking about making it into acc.

Edit: And now I saw that someone above posted the exact same reply.
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By Nabis 2013-07-05 04:54:58
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has anyone tried to augment a cerb mantle +1 with Vit via FOV elite training?
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By Solrain 2013-07-05 05:32:42
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No, because lol why? Also, it doesn't have STP, so it doesn't contribute to a 3-hit Bloodbath Axe build anyway.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-07-05 07:00:58
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Everytime someone writes "Bloodbath" I am like what...
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By Bismarck.Altar 2013-07-05 07:53:07
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Razorfury go!
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By Aftermath90 2013-07-06 04:43:21
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I am unsure if it has been edited in the pages before this, but why isn't Arco de Velocidad included for Max Regen set?
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By Asura.Backstab 2013-07-06 06:33:39
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Aftermath90 said: »
I am unsure if it has been edited in the pages before this, but why isn't Arco de Velocidad included for Max Regen set?

Same reason as to why Bloom buckler and rune axe arent in the set? -.-
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By Bismarck.Altar 2013-07-12 10:06:30
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Useful Gear in this update (unless I missed anything):
Mauler's Mantle (yay for totally random drops)
Buremte Gloves (look to be best in slot for Upheaval)
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By cavion1 2013-07-12 15:42:21
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you missed ixtab that thing is so easy to cap str just playing with spreadsheets and equipping it alone over razorfury ull gain 300 dps avg. Also according to spreadsheets it seems that 6 hit well be the better then 5 hit. unless i missed something in calculations.

TP 4% crit dmg aug
ItemSet 300767

WS buremte gloves
ItemSet 300769

this is with Berserk, Aggressor, Restraint, Warcry, double march, hasso, and double minuet on a lvl 102 chapuli. spreadsheets says avg dmg is 1345, and with mighty strikes it takes off to 1908 avg dps.
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By Phoenix.Ayrendel 2013-07-12 15:52:28
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What were your gear sets for 5 vs 6 hit? I haven't played around with it yet, but I would think the 8 store tp on the GA itself would make 5 hitting it so easy that it would for sure win.

Edit: You added a set called tp. Was that a typo?
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By Bahamut.Malothar 2013-07-12 23:00:39
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cavion1 said: »
TP 4% crit dmg aug
ItemSet 300767

Maybe I just don't understand your goal with that set, but it hurts my head trying to.

Haven't spread sheeted it, but my personal plan is to revert to Restraint up/down sets. Considering we're getting 2 more armor sets in August, I'd imagine most things will change then, as we really didn't get that much with this update.

Restraint Up
ItemSet 307803

Restraint Down
ItemSet 307805

Ixtab and Mauler's Mantle in respective spaces.

No access to aug Armada, nor am I spending the money on it when 2 new sets are right around the corner. I'd imagine aug Valk Breastplate is best. Porthos Byrnie might perform well in the body with restraint down as well. Bahamut is fail atm and only JPs are getting in on Delve bosses, so no Yao helm either. Not saying this is the best sets to be using, but its what I'm planning on aiming for. WS sets should largely be unchanged other then gloves IMO, except for maybe going back to Karieyh legs instead of Miki. unless you've got them ranked up high, since the acc should be fairly unneeded, and you gain +3 Str +3 Vit.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2013-07-12 23:04:41
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People have been saying Armada would be outclassed since it became a staple in WAR sets over a year ago(maybe longer?) yet here we are... Just being cheap.
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By Lakshmi.Registry 2013-07-12 23:51:10
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cavion1 said: »

I'm going to go with... No.

Bahamut.Malothar said: »

Use the bottom set with Phorcys Helm and White Tathlum, even if Restraint is up, but get Armada; it's pretty cheap for a piece you'll use for a while.
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By Bahamut.Malothar 2013-07-12 23:57:52
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
People have been saying Armada would be outclassed since it became a staple in WAR sets over a year ago(maybe longer?) yet here we are... Just being cheap.

On a server where its still 16+ mil damn right I'm going to be cheap about it, even more so since I had to create a new account in order to play again, been at the grind since December, missing Choco Blinkers, while spending gil on gearing/spells for casters. As mentioned, we're getting another Bayld set AND a Skirmish II armor set. With the quality of gear that's being released, I have 0 doubt it'll be outclassed in August.

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Use the bottom set with Phorcys Helm and White Tathlum, even if Restraint is up, but get Armada; it's insanely cheap now.

Those changes would be a DPS loss. Ixtab has 8 STP on it, and as is, the set makes the cut for 5 hit with 6 STP in WS set (Kari feet and Brutal Earring).
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By Lakshmi.Registry 2013-07-13 00:19:53
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Ah, didn't see you said Ixtab. The bottom set probably wins even if Restraint's up, then. I'm on another pc at the moment, so I can't just quickly pull up spreadsheets or I'd check.
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By cavion1 2013-07-13 00:37:54
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the point is with 188 gaxe skill, double minuet ur capped attacked so u just want to cap crit and da where u can
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-07-13 00:49:34
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cavion1 said: »
TP 4% crit dmg aug
ItemSet 300767
I have no idea what this is supposed to be good for.
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By Lakshmi.Registry 2013-07-13 00:59:30
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cavion1 said: »
the point is with 188 gaxe skill, double minuet ur capped attacked so u just want to cap crit and da where u can
dat 10% haste, bro?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-15 10:55:09
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Thoughts on these builds? Don't have Huginn feet (have NQ though) Don't mess with WAR much but got Ixtab and figured its worth gearing until next update.


TP
ItemSet 307992

Upheaval
ItemSet 245805

20.2 per swing
18.2 WS

Only needs first hit + 1 for 5hit. (very safe 5hit)
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2013-07-15 11:02:18
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With that much skill and songs/rolls/dia ect I would think ravaged boots would win if you do not need the extra acc. Even then, I wonder if swapping in ravaged hands would be better. Ill mush it into the spreadsheet when I get home cuz now I'm curious about the whirlpool greaves myself
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-15 11:06:31
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Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: »
With that much skill and songs/rolls/dia ect I would think ravaged boots would win if you do not need the extra acc. Even then, I wonder if swapping in ravaged hands would be better. Ill mush it into the spreadsheet when I get home cuz now I'm curious about the whirlpool greaves myself


I played with the Spread sheet for an hour, DPS can swing 0.1% any which way. It got annoying after a while so I decided to ask on forums.

fSTR is always a factor with these 250 damage weapons and I think that is offsetting the effects of crit+ damage.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2013-07-15 12:10:47
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Did you assume rogues roll or no? That and/or bloodrage may swing in favor of empy, otherwise whirlpool, depending on how much you want to min/max if you are using spellcast.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-15 12:20:00
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Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: »
Did you assume rogues roll or no? That and/or bloodrage may swing in favor of empy, otherwise whirlpool, depending on how much you want to min/max if you are using spellcast.


Yep if either Rogues or Bloodrage is up. AF3+2+Zoran or Phos+1+Hrafn both come out ahead.

Should be a simple enough rule to setup in SC.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2013-07-15 14:47:23
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If you are getting rouges its a safe bet you are getting hunter/chaos/2 brds worth of songs. General rule I would use low buff-whirlpool, high buff-empy wtihout going through each possible combination.
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By Phoenix.Ayrendel 2013-07-15 15:29:42
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Upheaval
WAR Upheaval

I'd switch out for a 2nd Terrasoul, Apathy Gorget and Caudata Belt. I've also played around with sets for TP that use Valk. Breastplate and Ares' +1 hands/legs, but they don't vary much in DPS and that body is much less common.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2013-07-16 07:16:10
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Buremte Hands should really beat anything else in slot for upheaval, especially if you need acc
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2013-07-17 02:29:50
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Updated/added new optimal sets under optimal buffs:

Ixtab Restraint Up
ItemSet 308194

Ixtab Restraint Down
ItemSet 308197

None-Mythic Upheaval
ItemSet 285786

Razorfury Restraint Up/Down
ItemSet 285673

Might have missed something so any educated corrections would be appreciated.

While Razorfury still maintains a slight DPS advantage over Ixtab under the most heavily buffed situations, just can't ignore how amazing Ixtab's +188 skill is. You're practically getting a full time SV minuet 5 and blade madrigal buff, and anytime you're uncapped accuracy/attack with Razorfury, Ixtab will leave it in the dust. I'm scared to even imagine what the delve version will look like...
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By Phoenix.Ayrendel 2013-07-17 03:33:50
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Phoenix.Suji said: »
I have no idea what this is supposed to be good for.
I figured it out. He's maxing the damage per swing, disregarding how often he's swinging. After all, if you 1 shot it, you don't have to swing again, right?
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