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 Bismarck.Feanorsof
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By Bismarck.Feanorsof 2019-04-30 11:58:59
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Hexa= Ukko's/Vorpal Blade Set
Black Halo= Standard WSDMG/Savage Blade Set

Ukko's WS set tends to have a bit more WSD in as the first hit of Ukko's carries a lot of the damage so this works well and 10% WSD pieces exist.

My assumption is that WSD would be very bad with Hexa Strike which was why I was curious as to what others are using as I would look to replace WSD pieces like those.

Being a 6 hit WS, I wonder if stacking so much multi-attack is as beneficial as it would be for other WS due to the 8 hit cap on attack rounds. Having a 30% STR and MND modifier I didn't think stacking STR would be great either which was why I was curious if others were using crit dmg instead?
As you will also utilise Fencer the crit rate should be quite high due to all the TP bonus.

Has anyone tried to make a set specifically for it? Was hoping to get some ideas by seeing what others were using.
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By Asura.Yso 2019-04-30 12:36:05
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ItemSet 356902

^ I use this. It has room for improvement, like Valorous/Odyssean with crit dmg/rate augs.
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By CerberusFreaky 2019-05-01 02:42:16
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not sure if anyone posted one, but... decimation WS set anyone?

This is what I got so far

ItemSet 366500
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By Asura.Yso 2019-05-01 02:48:42
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CerberusFreaky said: »
not sure if anyone posted one, but... decimation WS set anyone?

This is what I got so far
https://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/366469

Decimation is like Resolution. Same sets, basically. However, holding TP does very little for Decimation, compared to Reso. And WSD is not the way to go.

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By Spaitin 2019-05-02 05:31:04
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Asura.Yso said: »
CerberusFreaky said: »
not sure if anyone posted one, but... decimation WS set anyone?

This is what I got so far
https://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/366469

Decimation is like Resolution. Same sets, basically. However, holding TP does very little for Decimation, compared to Reso. And WSD is not the way to go.

ItemSet 365763
Depending on what unity you use. the Peapea (spelling?) is a good alternative to the seething bomblet. If your ranking is too low then the TA would be a solid option.
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By CerberusFreaky 2019-05-02 22:36:45
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on a side note... anyone else notice Agoge head and feet "added effects" are broken?
Head Warcry extend 30 sec... and feet Berserk effect extend 30sec...

Just me or... wtf is going on?

Also... anyone that can teach me how to post the picture of my gear-sets as above...?
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By Asura.Yso 2019-05-03 02:13:57
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CerberusFreaky said: »
on a side note... anyone else notice Agoge head and feet "added effects" are broken?
Head Warcry extend 30 sec... and feet Berserk effect extend 30sec...

Just me or... wtf is going on?

Also... anyone that can teach me how to post the picture of my gear-sets as above...?

I replied to your pm
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By Spaitin 2019-05-03 09:19:16
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CerberusFreaky said: »
on a side note... anyone else notice Agoge head and feet "added effects" are broken?
Head Warcry extend 30 sec... and feet Berserk effect extend 30sec...

Just me or... wtf is going on?

Also... anyone that can teach me how to post the picture of my gear-sets as above...?
are you referring to the timers addon not showing the full time frame that warcry is up? they are not broken, the addon is.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-03 09:30:55
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CerberusFreaky said: »
can teach me how to post the picture of my gear-sets as above

Copy the itemset code located at the bottom of your item set page. It's a number value

i.e.
[itemset']360121['/itemset] (added ' to show the code)

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ItemSet 360121

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anyways -- this question has been beaten to death a bit, but I didn't really see a definitive answer: Is Barbarity + Digibalag fairly close to each other, and the only difference being if you are getting fighters roll, use the former, and if not, use the latter? I have seen passerby WAR rocking the Barb, but keep hearing it's Digir as the preferred choice (augments of course)

I guess the added bonus to Barbarity would be if you're doing a quick light SC in Decimation > Cloudsplitter, the added WSD helps.
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By Spaitin 2019-05-03 10:23:37
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this was answered about 4 pages back. page 147.
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By SimonSes 2019-05-03 10:43:00
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I would say Digi is better, because DA will also work great for WS, but with XI fighter's roll, you can still reach 100% DA on Decimation with 3/5 Argosy+1, cape, Flamma +2 feet, Brutal, Telos. That's 40% DA in gear and with 33% base and 27% from XI +7 phantom fighter's roll it's exactly 100%.

Now if you have Degon, then you can use it instead of Arogsy and you will lose 7%DA then and you could cover that with Digi.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-03 15:19:10
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Are people using Yetshila +1 or Knobkierrie for Impulse Drive?
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By Asura.Bigtymer 2019-05-04 00:10:28
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I believe Ejiin's testing showed gearing toward WSD wins out for ID.
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By CerberusFreaky 2019-05-04 00:16:49
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Gonna test this set right now.
ItemSet 366510

See how things play out. Valorous enhanced with 26acc, 13att, 4crit rate
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By Lili 2019-05-04 08:02:48
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CerberusFreaky said: »
Gonna test this set right now.
ItemSet 366510

See how things play out. Valorous enhanced with 26acc, 13att, 4crit rate

I see you have AF+3 legs, you don't have AF+3 body? Even just +2 is an improvement over Valorous.

Flamma head +2 is also better than Boii. Eventually you'll want Relic head +3 tho, it's really worth saving for it.
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By SimonSes 2019-05-04 08:26:56
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Critical hit rate is not worth it over WSD on body and head.
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By Spaitin 2019-05-04 15:46:46
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ItemSet 366516

This is what I recommend for Impulse. there is an argument to use a different set below 1.5k TP. but you shouldnt use impulse below 2k TP. the crappy tp return made epa ring a little more attractive to me.
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By Lili 2019-05-04 18:12:01
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Yetshila +1 can actually be worth using. Crit damage applies to all hits and is multiplicative with WSD, so in that set it's actually equivalent to ~9 wsd on a critical first hit, plus 6% to any other potential crit. Won't do anything if no crits tho.
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By Spaitin 2019-05-04 18:17:29
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interesting.
Lili said: »
Yetshila +1 can actually be worth using. Crit damage applies to all hits and is multiplicative with WSD, so in that set it's actually equivalent to ~9 wsd on a critical first hit, plus 6% to any other potential crit. Won't do anything if no crits tho.

Agreed, but in that set you are only looking at around 30% crit hit rate at 2k TP. so you get +9% a small amount of the time. maybe around 50% with rogues/sam roll. in average you are getting something like 4.5% WSD average. During blood rage you are probably correct though. Might have to consider making a warcy AND blood rage set for ID.
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By Lili 2019-05-04 20:15:59
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Outside of Blood Rage you just need to decide if you prefer having more consistent damage (Knob), or prefer seeing higher spikes (Yetshila). I went with the latter since damage if no crit is kinda meh anyway.

Spaitin said: »
Might have to consider making a warcy AND blood rage set for ID.

Indeed. Shining One is one of the few cases where we benefit from both Warcry and Blood Rage, it's definitely worth gearing around it for a dedicated war.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-05-04 21:17:30
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Gearing for Crits on Impulse Drive is a bad idea without Blood Rage up, the WS doesn't naturally crit and the bonus from the weapon is too small to make it worthwhile. With Blood Rage up that changes quite a bit and CHD becomes a decent option for gear.
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By Autocast 2019-05-05 11:52:38
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King's justice set just upheaval with str augs in place of the vit augs?
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-05-05 13:08:32
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Autocast said: »
King's justice set just upheaval with str augs in place of the vit augs?

Basically yes.
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By CerberusFreaky 2019-05-05 23:31:48
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CerberusFreaky said: »
Gonna test this set right now.
ItemSet 366510

See how things play out. Valorous enhanced with 26acc, 13att, 4crit rate

This set worked very well, extremelly.

I have Relic head +3, AF body +2, knoc and a bunch of other pieces, but this set I quoted was extremelly consistent in 40k numbers at 1600 TP...
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By SimonSes 2019-05-06 04:07:33
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At this point I dont believe any test that doesnt show parses and provide details about target, buffs and testing methodology. Also 40k damage at 1600TP sounds low, but again without knowing a target, buffs etc. its just guessing and those numbers are just totally useless.
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By Lili 2019-05-06 07:52:01
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CerberusFreaky said: »
I have Relic head +3, AF body +2, knoc and a bunch of other pieces, but this set I quoted was extremelly consistent in 40k numbers at 1600 TP...

Sorry to be a buzzkill, but that's not as good as you think it is... At 1600tp with moonshade you should be getting 50-55k Impulse Drives, with mid-high buffs. 40k is low - on stuff like Apex/Ambuscade, at least. Relic head, AF body, and Knobkierrie would give you a little less than +26% damage... which is exactly what you're missing now.

Also Niqmaddu in left slot? Eww ;P
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-05-06 09:15:09
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Lili said: »
Also Niqmaddu in left slot? Eww ;P

Not as eww as you think, Impulse Drive is 100% STR meaning he's getting 11 base DMG from that slot along with 2 rolls on the 3% QA. The only other options are a one time reward with an extremely annoying requirement to +1 or an equally annoying ring that rarely drops from an event you can only do a few times a month that also has Store TP -10 on it. Impulse Drive already has big issues with TP return which result in slower TP accumulation that would otherwise happen.

But hey not like I need to show off my 12 inch *** or anything right.
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