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By Asura.Saevel 2018-11-24 21:12:36
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Goes from -25 evasion to -15 evasion, so completely negligible since WAR's don't evade ***.
 
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-11-26 15:32:04
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I think you need to look up how Aeonic aftermath works.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-11-26 15:32:29
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Can you make Radiance with Upheaval>Upheaval>Upheaval? I didn't think you could but I have seen Radiance go off a few times recently and I am only spamming Upheaval with no other DD or SMN or anything making SC.

Not possible for the same reason you can't do double light spamming Ukko's or Fudo. You need to combine two T2 attributes to form the first T3 and then link to another T3 to form a double T3.

You can do a single radiance through if you happen to get AM3 up.

3K upheaval -> AM3 up + Light SC property -> Upheaval = nothing (T3 property applied) -> Upheaval = Radiance (T3 + T3 links)

So single T3 SC possible with a 3K AM effect up.

Or what likely happens is the COR is doing random Savage Blades, which is Fragmentation and links with Upheaval's Fusion to form a T3 Light and then Upheaval again makes it Radiance.
 
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-11-26 15:53:34
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It's pretty obviously just AM3.
 
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-11-26 16:09:53
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Asura.Yojimmbo said: »
Ty sir.
On another note, shouldn't Ixtab be replaced by Instigator on the weapons list?

I think only the gearsets get replaced on some of the more historic guides. The gear progression summary portion usually isn't updated. Generally, you'll find much better information on non-RMEA weapons in the actual forum discussions, though you'll have to dig for it. Ixtab is outdated (was good for the time when the guide was written), the same as Macbain is a horrible option for GS at this point (Montante/+1 currently).

If you're looking for a non-RMEA gaxe, Agonoshe is what would be in that place as the next-to-best option.
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-11-26 16:20:45
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It's not really obvious because I have never seen myself with 3000TP before it happens. I could swear I don't have 3000TP but I am willing to believe it is the likely cause.


"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

and AM3 is literally the only explanation, as evidenced by your log
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By Odin.Willster 2018-12-01 09:55:06
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Asura.Yoshimuru said: »
should I use "War. Beads +2" for any WAR ws? ( Gaxe / sword / Gsword )
I second this question.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2018-12-08 07:55:07
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Odin.Willster said: »
should I use "War. Beads +2" for any WAR ws? ( Gaxe / sword / Gsword

Not for Upheaval, nope.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2018-12-08 08:24:11
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Also wondering how they do on Reso.

FTP boost/Keep TP combo on fotia neck is really nice. especially since ftp transfers on all hits for Reso.

I'd use the neck on Sword/Axe WS though.


I ended up making DRK beads first, I felt like they offered a bigger return on my investment.

Torn between WAR or COR Neck+2 next.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-08 08:54:37
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The JSE neck shouldn't be used on Reso as the fTP bonus is ridiculous for Resolution, maybe on a "over 2500TP" type set.

On Upheaval it's ... interesting. The alternative is a 9 VIT neck that would give +7.65 BDMG. The 15 STR gives +3.75 fSTR and the 15 DEX gives +1.5 Utu grip bonus so the delta is only 2.4 BDMG while the JSE neck also has 7 DA and 36 Acc / Atk, the VIT neck has 5 Acc. When I was doing my WSD Upheaval sets I would end up too low in accuracy if I was focused on pure damage, so I had to start looking for trade offs to raise the base accuracy to be more in line with my TP set and the JSE neck was the slot that I got the most out of.

Now for other WS's like Savage Blade, Scourge, King's Justice, Steel Cyclone and so forth it's pretty much the best.
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By Asura.Veikur 2018-12-08 12:07:45
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Dunno about that, even at 1000 TP (plus moonshade) I've got the pDif bonus alone marginally beating out Fotia, regardless of number of hits landed. That advantage grows the more TP overflow you have.

Beyond that...
+3.75 fSTR
+12.75 STR WSC
+1.5 DEX WSC
+36 ACC/ATT
+7 DA

vs

+1% chance to not expend TP
+10 WSACC
+7% Conserve TP
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-12-08 13:10:09
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Asura.Veikur said: »
Dunno about that, even at 1000 TP (plus moonshade) I've got the pDif bonus alone marginally beating out Fotia, regardless of number of hits landed. That advantage grows the more TP overflow you have.

there's no pdif bonus on the WAR necklace
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By Asura.Veikur 2018-12-08 13:11:46
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Siren.Kyte said: »
Asura.Veikur said: »
Dunno about that, even at 1000 TP (plus moonshade) I've got the pDif bonus alone marginally beating out Fotia, regardless of number of hits landed. That advantage grows the more TP overflow you have.

there's no pdif bonus on the WAR necklace
Dunno how I missed that. Welp, nevermind then.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-08 13:43:03
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War Neck +2 R25
Acc +25
Atk +25
Fencer +1
HP +100
STR +15
DEX +15
DA +7

It's a really good TP piece, amazing piece for WS's like Savage or King's Justice and an accuracy piece for Upheaval. Resolution still wins from Fotia though.
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By Bahamut.Asphaar 2018-12-08 15:26:00
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How are you guys handling the store tp loss from beads? Swapping sulevias hands for emicho?
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Bahamut.Asphaar said: »
How are you guys handling the store tp loss from beads? Swapping sulevias hands for emicho?

For most of my sets I'm actually over Store TP by a few, so this still works. Both Chango and Montante +1 have plenty of Store TP.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-11 09:18:55
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Was going over and tweaking my Upheaval sets and I found that anytime your using Chango going pure WSD almost always wins. I'm adjusting my cut off point to be closer to ~1500 TP due to Bravura and Conq still favoring multi-attack at those values.
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By Shiva.Darksniper 2018-12-13 13:59:40
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Hi Guys, Upheaval waist, Fotia or Caudata Belt, I have been using Caudata Belt..
And would you use Epaminondas's Ring?
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2018-12-13 16:18:58
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Shiva.Darksniper said: »
Hi Guys, Upheaval waist, Fotia or Caudata Belt, I have been using Caudata Belt..
And would you use Epaminondas's Ring?

I use fotia belt, I also use the ring.

Just make sure you have enough store TP to cover the ring. Going from AF+3 Legs to Odyssean made it sting a bit less.
 
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Scourge yes, Resolution no. Well Scourge maybe, I gear mine almost entirely around a 200 TP return.
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3.0 ftp males Scourge lean towards Fotia especially at r15 Rag. The ftp bonus gets both relic modifiers. 3.168 effectively
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By Quetzalcoatl.Chanceikin 2018-12-18 11:21:03
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Hey guys, curious if anyone could post an easy DT and Fell Cleave set(s) for Dragon/Puk cleaving in Escha ZiTah, trying to get my mule up to cleaving asap.

Also, what's a solid GAxe for this purpose? Obviously not DREAM.

Thanks in advance.
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Quetzalcoatl.Chanceikin said: »
Hey guys, curious if anyone could post an easy DT and Fell Cleave set(s) for Dragon/Puk cleaving in Escha ZiTah, trying to get my mule up to cleaving asap.

Also, what's a solid GAxe for this purpose? Obviously not DREAM.

Thanks in advance.


ItemSet 363871

If you do ambu a 10pdt cape can replace
The rings and save you gil.

Arke rocks for fodder cleaving.
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