Papa John's Boycott

I don't know, I don't run a company with something like 1.3billion in annual revenue. My only actual real point is that I think it's crazy to feel like some strangers on the internet can answer everything that paid professionals are so obviously messing up.

Also, and it's anecdotal for sure - last week I completed a 30 minute survey at work that evaluated what I want from our benefits as an employee. I voted to keep other things and reduce health care coverage. Who knows, maybe they did the same thing, and since a lot of people don't consider working at a pizza place a permanent career, maybe they opted for this. I dunno.

Youre right about it being his money to spend how he wants. Youre wrong about it being his life that went into creating the billion dollar company. Thousands of people contribute/d to that, and they should be taken care of accordingly.

And they were paid for it. It's capitalism.

Other than to say youre not worth responding to, youre not worth responding to.

Sucks I liked Papa Johns butter :/

None of us know the internal workings of these companies or are privy to their balance sheets but what we can infer is that they aren't doing right by their workers to make a political point.

There is a huge difference between companies like Target, Walmart and Papa Johns and more progressive companies that offer perks to even the lowest of employees. It has to do with the culture, the idea of what employees are relative to leadership and the long term planning of the company with regards to sharing up the profits.

lol. point was too good i guess. stumped you.

It allows for better access to health insurance for a greater portion of the population. A guarantee of it would be more akin to single-payer.

What was the point here anyway?

Someone said these employees will be left without health insurance. That was the point.

I think he was saying that to complain about having subsidize the uninsured is silly since you are already subsidizing them whenever the uninsured gets hospital care. Just indirectly and at a much higher cost in general.

What a pathetically uncreative businessman. He could easily have spun this into his favor.

"Dear Customers,

In order to ensure that our employees are able to remain healthy and able to 1.) continue to offer you the best, safest customer service in the industry and 2.) continue making the best possible contributions they can to our community, our pricing scheme will be changing beginning January 1st so that we can make sure that our valuable employees have better access to preventative and emergency health care. Prices on items beteween $3 and $5 will see a ten cent increase in price, while prices on items over $5 will see a modest twenty-cent increase. At Papa John's, our mission is to create raving fans through our superior ingredients, superior customer service, and community leadership, and we need healthy employees to accomplish these goals. This small increase in the price of our products will allow us to take care of our employees and continue using only the finest ingredients available. Thank you for your continued patronage and helping us make the community, and America, a better place for everyone.


Sincerely,

Papa John's."

I really wish people would stop spouting this "Obamacare" ***. Romney did the same thing in MA., but very few people have the balls to call it Romneycare. The only difference, is that now there's a federal mandate for a minimum code that all states have to meet, rather than each municipality and region in MA. It's really the exact same thing on a much broader scale.

Keeping Empoyees healthy to keep working.

And for you people spouting the stupid *** that "they can just get a better job", think for more than 5 *** seconds. Each job has it's own market and each market depends on the locale. If these "better" jobs aren't available because they are limited, they have to take something available, IF it's available, or use the welfare program/welfare to work programs (which pay less than minimum wages in some states) that force people to commute farther than what they can afford, just to hold a job.

Business empires are built off of the lives of the people they employ, and the customers they sell a product, service, or idea to. I don't give a rat's *** *** which political party you're affiliated with, but better employment standards will NEVER be bad for business.

Politicizing your reasons for terminating jobs is unconstitional, as it infringes upon a worker's right not to be fired for who they support politically. It's discriminatory against employees plain and simple. If they have to reduce working hours to stay on budget per location/local market demand, so be it. That's part of business. It can be good or bad. But to publically state "oh noes, i have to increase the price of my pizzas by 11 cents per pizza to afford a minimum government mandate of insuring employees who work 30 hours or more, i'll instead fire employees and reduce their schedules because it's Obama's fault the people voted him into office, who also voted for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act he campaigned on. It's not MY America anymore."

It's not ANYONE's America. It's THE PEOPLE'S America, and the majority said "we want/need affordable access to healthcare."

And this is why i prefer canadians way of thinking.

But how does that get employees to loathe Obama and Democrats?

You didn't build your business, someone else did.

Okay Obama Jr.

"Corporations are people my friend."

See? Even Mitt Romney agrees.

John Schnatter didn't state that he would fire people, just reduce their hours. Which would indicate the workforce at Papa john's will mostly compose of part time employees working less than the 30 hr full time mark to avoid providing mandated benefits. So in effect Papa john's will actually begin to employee more people than they currently are to make up for the hours being cut. On another note the employer portion of health benefits is outrageous many times they pay double of the employee's premium deducted every paycheck. So if your paying 100 dollars in health benefits your employer is paying 200. Don't believe me look at your W2 this year it is now mandated that employer health insurance costs are reported. Which is a scary thing because later down the line the government may decide to tax you on the employer portion being provided by classifying it as compensation.

Am i the only one that really wants pizza now??

Little Caesars naturally.

Not what he said.

He's saying that the world is far bigger than just the man with the idea. The man that started it.

Maybe it's because I'm a Sicilian, but there is one thing that I have been taught to do, above any and all things: you take care of your people. No matter who they are, you take care of them.

I do not approve of having to provide health insurance if they work a certain number of hours. My simple argument, over and over, is that he should be taking care of his people.

That is what you do. Even from a business standpoint, it earns you the hearts of people and their loyalty in return.

He is not holding up as a man of virtue, and for that I will criticize him. He is taking the coward's way out. I feel it should be his right to do so.

But I feel like he is a skell for doing this, and I will not stand by idly as these skells do that.

He takes care of his employees* by paying them. If he wasn't paying them enough then no one would be working for Papa John's.

Illegal immigrants will work for 2 dollars an hour.

I do not think you understand what I mean by taking care of them.

I think you are also grossly misinterpreting the grimness of the reality around you in regards to the economy.

Large organizations are a group effort with leadership and subordinates working together in order to better the overall product. One doesn't happen without the other. You can have the best idea but if your subordinates are all incompetent, you will crash and burn.

Treat your subordinates well and they'll do more to keep you in business and invest more effort in turn. If your subordinates *** up, guess what? Your company will suffer accordingly for it.

I do understand the grimness, this is why the government three years ago should have focused on fixing the economy and jobs instead of ramming through a poorly written near 3000 page law. The law is well intentioned, but as usualy the unintended consequenes are not thought through or planned for. They warned for years this law would kill jobs.

Without this law wouldn;t these people still have jobs? Maybe it's the libertarian streak in me, but the government did not need to meddle with employers like this. I am also against minimum wage for the record let alone forcing emplyers to give health care benefits.

For all those that want single payer health care though just be patient becuase it will be here eventually. Thousands of companies will continue to dump full-time employment to avoid having to pay for health care for employees leaving them all with the government health insurance. Younger healthy people will start to pay the fine instead of getting health insurance on their own. Insurance companies will eventually go broke leaving just the government standing.

How am I wrong?

You mean fix the economy that the Republican party didn't want to fix because that would have meant making Obama look good? Making Obama a one term president meant sabotaging the political process.

Secondly, you want no minimum wage? I guess you aren't satisfied with the rampant exploitation current with minimum wage requirements. Illegals. Illegals everywhere.

Why the *** on earth would you be against minimum wage? Would you be happy if your employer suddenly dropped your paycheck down to whatever buttfuck number he thought your skills were worth to him?

EDIT: beaten by Sparthos.

He's going to answer that the markets will dictate the value of labor rather than the government.