For me HMP are the wildcard. Nearly every other item will surely see a price drop over time. Sure there are a dozen people per server fishing haks but they probably cover the AH fees on flame/breeze geodes from a fountain/sink perspective. But HMP are getting hit from two sides. One, the supply will probably shrink due to fewer people doing voidwatch. Whether that is a lot or a little remains to be seen. But on the other side, many buyers were funding their emps with crour so they won't be buyers at high price points anymore. So there are conflicting forces at work.
Likewise, people will probably increase dynamis farming for gil which will bring more currency into the market. But as HMP become harder to come by, perhaps a few people who had their eyes on emps will look to a relic instead. I know I've gone back and forth on emp or relic for a monk weapon. There will be a re-equilibrium over the coming weeks. And then when perfect defense gets nerfed and it takes an alliance to kill ADL instead of 3 two boxers the currency/hmp equilibrium will shift again when marrows double in price.
Agreed.
This "nerf" is just a start on getting things back on track. I think that people will do more VW involving HMP/pouches only for the fact to get them for free or at a discounted rate.
Qilin will always be popular because of that dagger.. heck if they wanted to make Voidwatch relevant again, just increase the drop rate a little bit.
Or.. instead of logs and petrifacts.. make it drop stuff that you can NPC for more than 500 gil at a time. (That petrifact >> cruor idea is now null and void. D:)
Either way whatever we can suggest would end up turning into something that could be "game breaking" or could be abused.. so I want to see where it goes from here.
That's actually a really good point now that I think about it. Why in the ***are they allowing us to convert pertifacts to cruor again? It was already laughable that it was going to be 100 cruor each but why even bother since nearly everyone has capped atmacites and no real need to brew?
That ***makes no sense now lol. I would rather have a new BCNM system using pertifacts for orbs.
That's actually a really good point now that I think about it. Why in the ***are they allowing us to convert pertifacts to cruor again? It was already laughable that it was going to be 100 cruor each but why even bother since nearly everyone has capped atmacites and no real need to brew or use weaken items?
That ***makes no sense now lol. I would rather have a new BCNM system using pertifacts for orbs.
Or allow them to be traded for Voidstones.. just SOMETHING that could be useful ._.
The marrow comment was IF the PD/embrava nerf comes to pass. Let's face it, alliances dont farm them to sell. The guys selling are the guys splitting it three ways, not 18 ways. If that doesn't happen, then yes, marrow will drop too (although maybe not as much if currency price falls making the total cost of a 99 relic relatively cheap even if marrows stay the same).
The double nerf has already been announced and it will affect the ability to kill ADL for many groups. Sure, the skilled groups may be able to work around it but if you aren't top tier? ADL just become alot less of an assured marrow in the bank.
The marrow comment was IF the PD/embrava nerf comes to pass. Let's face it, alliances dont farm them to sell. The guys selling are the guys splitting it three ways, not 18 ways. If that doesn't happen, then yes, marrow will drop too (although maybe not as much if currency price falls making the total cost of a 99 relic relatively cheap even if marrows stay the same).
Everytime I've gone to ADL we go with more than 18 people, with intent to sell them unless someone in our LS is currently working on a relic. Either way still make decent gil split usually about 18, depending on mules present.
The marrow comment was IF the PD/embrava nerf comes to pass. Let's face it, alliances dont farm them to sell. The guys selling are the guys splitting it three ways, not 18 ways. If that doesn't happen, then yes, marrow will drop too (although maybe not as much if currency price falls making the total cost of a 99 relic relatively cheap even if marrows stay the same).
Everytime I've gone to ADL we go with more than 18 people, with intent to sell them unless someone in our LS is currently working on a relic. Either way still make decent gil split usually about 18, depending on mules present.
With marrows 12-13M on your server thats 700k per marrow. That's an awful lot of mules to reset 2 hours to make it worth it over just mindlessly killing hippogryphs. It's more work. It's the use of a event night. Your linkshell is the exception and not the rule. And while I'm not saying this about your linkshell specifically there is certainly quite a few LS's that could kill ADL with 18 that will not be able to after the PD/emb nerf.
There just aren't that many killing it without those buffs. No getting around that.
The marrow comment was IF the PD/embrava nerf comes to pass. Let's face it, alliances dont farm them to sell. The guys selling are the guys splitting it three ways, not 18 ways. If that doesn't happen, then yes, marrow will drop too (although maybe not as much if currency price falls making the total cost of a 99 relic relatively cheap even if marrows stay the same).
Everytime I've gone to ADL we go with more than 18 people, with intent to sell them unless someone in our LS is currently working on a relic. Either way still make decent gil split usually about 18, depending on mules present.
With marrows 12-13M on your server thats 700k per marrow. That's an awful lot of mules to reset 2 hours to make it worth it over just mindlessly killing hippogryphs. It's more work. It's the use of a event night. Your linkshell is the exception and not the rule. And while I'm not saying this about your linkshell specifically there is certainly quite a few LS's that could kill ADL with 18 that will not be able to after the PD/emb nerf.
There just aren't that many killing it without those buffs. No getting around that.
We still don't know what they are going to do to PD / Embrava :< Although, marrows split 18+ ways sounds like terrible gil. Better for LS leaders to hoard that ***for the "bank". :P
It's not so bad when you consider that even the worst group should be getting at least 5 marrows per round of ADLs... or they probably shouldn't be wasting 2 hours doing ADL. 3m or so per person is equal to or greater than what a majority of people will be getting solo from Dynamis
It's sad how you don't realize how much of an impact cruor conversion had on your own profits, but it's been mentioned multiple times already, so you're either a moron or a troll or both.
It's sad how you don't realize how much of an impact cruor conversion had on your own profits, but it's been mentioned multiple times already, so you're either a moron or a troll or both.
I'm still unsure of this myself Tsuneo, if you find out please let me know. I guess I'll just have to find out 'the hard way,' huh? I likes me a challenge!
At the following time, a version update was performed on FINAL FANTASY XI.
[Date & Time]
Oct. 22, 2012 at 11:30 (PDT)
[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI
[Update Details]
[System]
- The prices when selling the following items to NPCs have changed:
Stamina Apple / Spore Bomb / Chocobo Taping / -->Chocobo Blnk<-- / Shadow Roll / Chocobo Hood / Grauberg Greens / Sharug Greens / Azouph Greens
- The following items can no longer be sold to NPCs:
Perle Solerets / Aurore Gaiters / Teal Pigaches / Perle Salade / Aurore Beret / Teal Chapeau / Perle Moufles / Aurore Gloves / Teal Cuffs / Perle Hauberk / Aurore Doublet / Teal Saio / Perle Brayettes / Aurore Brais / Teal Slops
[Issues Addressed]
The following issues have been fixed:
- The issue below has been fixed in Meeble Burrows:
An issue wherein players were immediately kicked out if every player in the party logged out and logged back in within 3 minutes whilst in the burrows.
An issue wherein the stock number of key items, “Moblin pheromone sack” was sometimes incorrect in certain situations when talking to the NPC ‘Burrow Investigator’ in Upper Jeuno (I-8)
An issue wherein a confirmation window would be displayed when talking to the NPC ‘Vrednev’ in Sauromugue Champaign(J-7) when the party consisted of fewer than 3 members.
- In the quest ‘Shattering Stars ’ and corresponding quests:
An issue wherein it was only possible to challenge BF once with ‘xx’s testimony’
*A bug has been confirmed when challenging BF where a message saying ‘xx’s testimony has been annulled!’ is displayed. The message has been fixed and BF can now be challenged up to 3 times.
In addition, ‘xx’s testimony’ is also returned to the PC whenever it’s possible to challenge BF again.
- During Besieged: an issue wherein when the player was KO’d and the battle ended but did not receive XP after being revived.
