The Sealed Dagger: A Ninja Guide

+1 to this suggestion ^^

It's too bad that the augs can't be wiped I would still just go for a pellucid max acc kanaria instead of getting stuck holding a 20m katana that's now worth 1m

50 acc vs 40 acc(and maybe some dex)

With all the talk about Hi was wondering if Ilabrat/regal > begrudging?
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My set lacks alot of crit rate so I really only use it when I'm not tanking and get to use Innin, could probably switch to rancor neck but I just still have nef+1 in from when I was using begrudge
Herc body and hands are 10% wsd w/ some att/acc feet are 7%

Old set was nef+1 neck regal ring and begrudge ring instead of ilabrat

From my tests yes, they're mostly better than Begrugding.
Which is why I use Rancor Collar myself.
But then again the JSE neck +2 has DEX/AGI mods no? So that's even better than Rancor Collar.

With your setup where you have a single Mummu+2 piece, then Mummu Ring might beat Ilabrat. It's 2 less AGI/Dex and less Att, but 3% more Crit?
I dunno, probably won't beat neither Ilabrat nor Regal, but worth testing on a spreadsheet to be sure.

I completely forgot about the nin neck lol, I'll prob just put in spreadsheet later just been lazy about it

Also I might be wrong and hopefully someone will correct me, but I think that when you're at really really really low buffs (like literally nothing) then Proccing a crit on Blade: hi (or increasing the chance of that to happen) should produce better average numbers on the long run than directly boosting the base damage (WSD) of the WS itself. So basically Crit rate > WSD

The more buffs you have (the closest you are to PDIF) the more the opposite happens (WSD >>>> Crit rate)

The point where this happens I dunno, I think very very very early.
Also it still depends on the amounts of each stat. 10% WSD is huge, I can't think of a single piece with that much Crit Rate, let alone more than that.

You might want to check that on the Spreadsheet as well. I'm confident 10% WSD Herc will win over Mummu+2. Probably the 7% piece as well but... doublecheck on that. Especially because in addition of Crit Rate, Mummu has unusually high AGI, much higher than your tipical Herc. (don't forget to factor the set bonus as well, since you're gonna equip legs regardless)


Edit:
Did a small test and yes, surprisingly enough Mummu+2 wins in most slot, even over Hachiya+3 and Herc 10% WSD. Barely so, but it does.
For that to happen I literally had to remove every single buff related to Att+ or Def down though.
So... not a very realistic situation, probably?

So in that set w/ nin neck +1 getting mummu + regal beating regal/ila and mummu feet beating the 7% aug on apex mobs w/ RDM + BRD dia III 2 min 1 march haste II

Mummu body also beating the 10% herc but not getting mummu winning over hachi head +3

Depends on which other augs you have on those feet. Sounds a bit strange Mummu+2 are beating them, with the buffs you listed, but totally possible though sooo, yeah :D

7% WSD 5acc/att, assuming its the set bonus agi thats pushing it up so much, this is also w/ Innin up

edit: @max buffs getting 10% herc winning but mummu feet/legs and ring still top

From what I remember a long while ago when Mummu was new the feet were the strongest piece of +2 for Hi

Does not being pdif capped(which seems pretty common now with the way content is being designed) favor the +10 str +45 attack on your rings over begrudging + mummu ring? Which helps more when pdif isn't capped(but not absolutely in the gutter)?

Atleast in low buffs being just Dia III Min V/IV haste II Vmarch mummu ring won out over Ilabrat legs on apex, and feet/body were also ahead of the 10% body 7% feet.

But when I put absolutely every buff in the game on myself and had the target defense crippled to ***Herc body 10% won way hard but mummu +2 feet were still winning. Mummu head didnt win in any scenario and I never changed ring out back to ilabrat after buffs.

Earring though Tpshade lost to both brutal and ishvara, and for w/e reason I get caudata doing really well w/ low buffs but then windbuff is still winning with better buffs

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Updated set, since normally unless you're solo you wont have lower tier buffs like that anyway but
Herc body--Vit11 Acc/att13 WSD10%
Herc Hands--CHR10 WSD10%
Andartia--AGI30 WSD10 att/acc20 DT-5

I guess Begrudging/Mummu combo would be better with really low buffs didnt try it out, but mummu ring set bonus is doing really well for AGI

edit: too lazy to change but belt should be windbuffet +1, comes in at 17913 w/ Svelt +1 @ 17783

Why are you using Caudata?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Svelt._Gouriz_%2B1
or
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Grunfeld_Rope
or fotia

Do mummu kecks really beat relic legs? Relic legs have a ton of attack power too

Because for the level of buffs I get for myself when I'm solo it does well and I feel it helps compensate for the low amount of acc in my WS set, but as I just said it doesnt come close to two other things that are AHable

Also no fotia belt 3much work

I said Svelt, maybe I shouldnt have shorthanded it. Its coming second after windbuffet +1 Fotia beats grunfield

Eh fotia belts are essentially 100% drops and up 100% of the time, if its better its not too much effort to go bang that out.

Synergy on the other hand, man that addon makes that so much better.
(and sense it was mentioned, I'll try to find the post about it, someone will certainly ask)

Yes plz

This thing is kind of amazing. You can just blast it out by mashing feed at double(triple?) normal speed.

I'm tired of hearing "takes too long" or " I'm just lazy" when it comes to fotia or moonshade. They are literally two(three) of the greatest items you can have for ws sets. So yourself a huge favor and make one. You will not ever regret it.

Wotg is such a terrible storyline the cutscenes are like 30 *** minutes (not really) I don't really hold it against anyone not doing that ***.

The sheer number of times you have to just exit enter exit enter talk to rolant talk to rolant again talk to rolant AGAIN talk to rolant AGAIN! game day wait. talk to rolant, zone, game day wait! *gross*

I'm not a third party head, but I'm positive there's at least 3 addons you can use to literally skip past all of that jazz after few clicks. There's a ton of walking but the reward is great

Now, mog gardens..... Just no... I won't be getting an HQ ring because that garbage is just garbage....

Well, fastcs doesnt really speed it up that much, neither does enternity. Just a few seconds (it does add up, yes) Nothing negates game day waits.

Though cair made that addon to straight skip all the *** and just flag missions as over... but that's "gone" now.

30 minutes of Robel Akbel making 50 birds roast? Sign me up!

Just redid all the WOTG mission for my mule a few months ago, both for RoV and the earring. Much prefer that than drugging Phuabos for their kidneys

pretty sure phuabo is the easiest organs to get. Just summon Nanaa Mihgo and she'll despoil them. If you're thf, you both can take turns, and you can cancel her/resummon to reset her timer. If it's an Om'Phuabo, drop rate is higher (or 100%). That's the last organ you need to be worried about. Aern/Xzomit is the royal pita.

xzomit are 100% from the pack leaders

I... actually really liked the WotG storyline (main and the nation quest lines), at least from a pure story perspective :P.

That being said, I guess you have a point since WotG is the only mission line I STILL haven't finished on my alt/mule, pretty much entirely due to the annoying running around (that character is support/mage onry, so the lack of TP bonus doesn't stress me much). Also, I did WotG as it released back at 75 cap so didn't get a chance to get too burnt out by doing it all at once. Still, Moonshade is good enough that it's kinda worth the hassle.

Also, nobody actually said they didn't want to deal with acquiring Moonshade anyway, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Mochizuki +3 legs generally win, but Mummu+2 are a pretty solid second (and they're what I used for quite a while as a perfectly serviceable alternative while waiting for Dynamis materials to drop in price). It wouldn't shock me to see some scenario where Mummu+2 might spreadsheet better, but more often than not the relic+3 will win. Now, as you noted, relic have a ton of attack so they gain quite a lot if you're ever uncapped attack, in which case they're best legs by a pretty significant margin. I think that alone is reason to go with Mochi+3 as your default choice (blah, blah, something about everyone assuming always capped acc/atk even though that's ridiculous).

Windbuffet+1 for Blade: Hi waist (as Luna also mentioned)

Rings for Hi are really dependent on target/buffs. Any of Regal, Begrudging, Mummu, Ilabrat, Epaminondas are legitimate possibilities. If you wanted to commit to just one set of those, Regal/Mummu is probably the pair most consistently at or near the top across a variety of circumstances, so I think Luna's choices make sense. I personally don't have Regal, so I go Mummu/Ilabrat as my default.


I'm going to have to give you a bit of a hard time, because YOU USE KIKOKU why u even care?? XD

I sorta joke, but seriously, for Kikoku users Metsu replaces Hi for the majority of practical Darkness SCs (aside from needing Hi for a small number of Gravitation-required SCs). I mean, I get it, you might as well gear your best for any situation... but for Kikoku mainhand in particular, Hi is just such a niche WS that I wouldn't sweat minor adjustment to your WS set too much.

Now, for Kannagi... different story. And even other non-Kikoku mainhands at least have more potential SC use for Hi since they don't get BestuMetsu.

I made mention of it, like 6 hours ago, but not in that context. Not that they understand the difference, even after pointing it out...

tangent; it gets really *** old having to spell everything out in literal terms just so that one guy can't go "oh but this thing you said when you said it that one time"

Because I care about you Capu.