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 Odin.Eikechi
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-31 18:02:41
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Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
Honestly i think rngs got an awesome upgrade compared to EES. There are just 2 concerns with it. 1. The duration of the effect *1min 30 secs would probably be asking to much from SE*. 2. If the "no ammunition consumed" effect is exactly as it says or if its actually 100% Recycle. If its the latter, rng's with their aug'd +2 relic hats will be looking to deal massive hateless dmg in that time especially on top of the boost in speed to ranged attacks.

100% recycle with coronach would way too unbalanced
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-07-31 18:20:50
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They would have said it was Recycle if that's what it was. It'll be extended duration Unlimited Shot.

The real question for me is, can Recycle proc with Unlimited Shot up?
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By Shiva.Gib 2012-07-31 18:28:15
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So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?

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By volkom 2012-07-31 18:30:33
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Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?


new zerg. bring 15 smn's
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-31 18:33:20
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volkom said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?


new zerg. bring 15 smn's

No, WoE has been doing this since it's inception. It's just a better means to smn zerg :P
By volkom 2012-07-31 18:35:18
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
volkom said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?


new zerg. bring 15 smn's

No, WoE has been doing this since it's inception. It's just a better means to smn zerg :P

kekekekekekeke?

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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-31 18:36:26
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How is anybody supposed to tell if you're serious or not :P. In abyssea it would actually be sick as ***lol. All those pred claws...
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By Asura.Zaphir 2012-07-31 18:36:42
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Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?

Then 300 tp Myrkr and do it again!
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-31 19:12:10
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Asura.Zaphir said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?

Then 300 tp Myrkr and do it again!
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-07-31 19:18:59
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Asura.Zaphir said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?

Then 300 tp Myrkr and do it again!
Imagine if there was a Job Trait that gives us TP when performing damaging Blood Pacts :p
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-31 19:24:14
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Grants a drastic increase in parry rate. Additionally, Ninjutsu recast times will be reduced by 50% and ninja tools will not be consumed.

Unless it adds MAB+100 MACC+100

Mijin is a better 2hr.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-07-31 19:25:10
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Calling it now. SMN 2-hour is designed to help you skill up.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-31 19:26:58
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Depending on the boost per evaded attack, SAM's one seems quite interesting. Not like Meikyo Shisui is as amazing as it was, but yea. Could also use this new SAM 2hr should PD wear before said mob dies.
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-07-31 19:29:08
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Calling it now. SMN 2-hour is designed to help you skill up.

good call
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-31 19:33:24
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Heeey Ninja finally got a 2 hou-.... nope. Nevermind. Move along.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-31 19:33:41
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Calling it now. SMN 2-hour is designed to help you skill up.
Beseiged is gunna be bitchen
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By Bismarck.Zagarikano 2012-07-31 19:38:45
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
Grants a drastic increase in parry rate. Additionally, Ninjutsu recast times will be reduced by 50% and ninja tools will not be consumed.

Unless it adds MAB+100 MACC+100

Mijin is a better 2hr.

What? It reduces recast timer on the spells. It says nothing about giving buffs to ninjitsu.

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WHM: benediction already removes alot of status ailments.

DRK: Can't use soul eater in a zerg without blood weapon unless you wanna die early I think? Unless this can lock a mobs TP, its a peice of crap possibly.

BLU: Should of gotten a manafont for blu spells OR made the spells the same as the mob version of the spell (super strong).

THF: This is gonna be 1 attack only but I expect it to do massive damage possibly 3k. Not sure if DA TA and QD will stack with it...

MNK: helps with mnk tanking and spharai users. I could pull hate with hundred fists though (1 min duration with relic legs) and high counter rate already as it is. (plus alot of mobs have aoe melee attacks these days, this new 2 hour is useless.)

PLD: Should of gotten a 2 hour that nullifies all MAGIC damage or even absorbs magic damage.

SMN: They got a very good 2 hour but is it more important then alexander? IMO, they got the best new 2 hour because both of them can be used situationally but are both godly.

PUP: I expect the automations chainspell and eagle eye shot to be super strong. Pets are stronger then actual playable characters in most things for some reason.

BST: garbage 2 hour ability. Freaking garbage. Familiar enhances attack, HP, defense? and gives your pet 10% haste and it lasts forever with no duration until the pet dies. With proper gear, your pet will have 20% haste. Familiar should always be used period.

RDM: garbage, haste II at most... not better then chainspell stun for zergs though.

SCH: LOL???? the dumbest 2 hour out of all of them. Never give up embrava or that dark nuke (kasutra?) for the new 2 hr ability.. Not to mention embrava lasts 13 freaking mins...

WAR: lol? Maybe it gives non-elemental additional effect to all attacks? If its like a formless strikes, then its garbage. If its like an excalibur, then it might be useful somewhat. Mighty strikes is hard to beat in both DOT and WS damage... Mighty strikes will almost always be used I think. Their new 2 hour reminds me of a tomahawk JA...

DRG: A familiar for your wyvern, expect wyverns are weak and nothing as strong as avatars, bst pets or automations...You could give the wyvern hundred fists and it will still be garbage.

SAM: This move is not an invincible lke people keep saying. It only works when the mob uses a tp move and when the tp move is a physical one. If you can find a mob that spams that somehow, maybe your ws dmg will be godly. Or you can just ws 4 times with meikyo... duh?

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ALl of these 2 hours are garbage except for THF,SMN, maybe COR. Maybe DRK depending on what it really does..
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-31 19:40:26
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Thoughts:

BLU: Great, now where are our useful Unbridled learning spells?
COR: Great, now I have to bust my way to *3* 11s.
DNC: Was better before translation, but still more useful than Trance.
SCH: Would be good if SCH didn't have Tabula Rasa.
SMN: Clear winner. Will make SMN burning Arch Ultima more fun.
WHM: Good for zergs, especially if it blocks terror / stun / doom / death.
SAM: Good for zergs where you're not running PD.
THF: Okay?
RDM: Should have been "Makes all single-target enhancing magic Area of Effect, greatly enhances its effect and duration."
DRK: Clear winner along with SMN.
PLD: Why would you use this over Invincible?
MNK: This doesn't apply in the situations where Hundred Fists doesn't work, so it's useless.
BRD: Might have been worth using over soul voice if it were STR/VIT/AGI and Defense. Still, I guess this could be useful if BLM burning things becomes standard ever again. Could be good for teaming up with SMN's new 2hr for SMN burning.
BST/DRG: What?
BLM: I find it hard to get excited over this.
RNG: Worlds better than EES.
NIN: ITT: Defensive 2hrs for melees.
PUP: Actually what I expected. That benediction is master/automaton only is sort of disappointing.
WAR: Glorified Formless Strikes, on a 2-hour timer? Well slap my *** and call me Sally.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-07-31 19:45:27
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There's a part of me that suspects SE is intentionally making these 2-hours mediocre or incredibly situational because they're going to put them behind a merit point category cap and you'll only be able to merit 3 of them to relevance.
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By Cerberus.Thore 2012-07-31 20:03:00
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A majority of these made me go, umm its.... ok... I guess...
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By Shiva.Gib 2012-07-31 20:04:10
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Asura.Zaphir said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
So basically I can do 10 Predator claws in a row before my MP runs out?

Then 300 tp Myrkr and do it again!
brb, doing WoE Myrkr staff
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-31 20:04:20
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I dont even understand what SE is thinking with that BLU 2 hour. And SAM, what am I zerging without PD? I would say this is a letdown but it really is just par for the course in 2012.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-07-31 20:17:34
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Really want to know the duration on these effects or it's hard to determine how useful they'll be.

And SCH 2-hour should be a regular JA. Rune fencer might be worth leveling if this were the case (along with PLD).
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By Bismarck.Coffeegood 2012-07-31 20:25:20
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Camate please use your position to do good here, there's a lot of obvious CATACLYSMIC BAD DECISIONS here.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-31 20:26:28
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Because everyone else does it
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By Bismarck.Sorce 2012-07-31 20:26:50
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every one of these need to be regular 5-10 min abilitys not 2 hours, this is a joke i hope ....
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-31 20:41:03
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
BLU - pretty nice, im sure it'll come in great use.

Nope!
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-31 20:42:58
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not even VW spam <highdamageunbridallearningspell>?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-31 20:44:54
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No. There is no such spell.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-31 20:48:15
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Welcome to the club of <uselesscrap2hr>
here's a Splunkers hat
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