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 Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-07-31 15:17:42
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If it actually steals the TP, KC drk is now the world's best enfeebler.

HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAH
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2012-07-31 15:17:58
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Oh i plan to finish my ragnarok but fact is drk has been in a sad state and is yet to fully come out of it
Well, that changes everything.
I don't think DRK is in a "sad" state, though.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-31 15:18:29
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This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-07-31 15:18:43
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Phoenix.Fredjan said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Oh i plan to finish my ragnarok but fact is drk has been in a sad state and is yet to fully come out of it
Well, that changes everything.
I don't think DRK is in a "sad" state, though.

We are not.

But a defensive ability would be nice, tactical parry, and having lower parrying than PUP needs to *** off.

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By Artemicion 2012-07-31 15:19:45
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My reaction to most of those ability descriptions.

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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-07-31 15:19:49
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If it actually steals the TP, KC drk is now the world's best enfeebler.

HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAH

I'll level BRD and make a Ghorn before I put a WHM weapon on my DRK.
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By Asura.Dominate 2012-07-31 15:19:58
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Skimmed over the thread and didn't see if it was said yet, will the old/new 2 hours share timers? I'd imagine they would, but wtf then. :|
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By Asura.Ruzoko 2012-07-31 15:20:31
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-31 15:21:25
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
We're not trolls, you're just oblivious of the game. You dared saying drk is in a bad state and cor 2hour is a joke. The door is that way, sir.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-07-31 15:21:48
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun

Maybe if you didn't sound so naive to the gifts your marvelous class possesses, you would encounter less trolls.

This isn't pre-tp-cieling days when Absorb-TP and Drain II were only the fevered dreams of a raving mad man.

Where wielding a one-handed axe got you invites over a two-handed weapons in Bibiki bay parties.

Those were the sad times, the dark times, the bad times.

While DRK has some problems one of them isn't desirability/damage as it is a solid damage dealer that if played correctly is never a waste of a slot in nearly any PvE situation.

The problem is a lack of flavor, playing the class is quite bland.
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By Artemicion 2012-07-31 15:22:06
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun

>Post flawed arguments
>Receive repercussions
>Everyone else is the troll
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By Asura.Ruzoko 2012-07-31 15:22:26
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
We're not trolls, you're just oblivious of the game. You dared saying drk is in a bad state and cor 2hour is a joke. The door is that way, sir.
If you've been around since before they started to nerf Drk you would know how it used to be
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2012-07-31 15:22:45
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
The only thing DRK really needs is something to use my 800mp on.

My damage output is quite fine.
Impact*
wow, I derped.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-31 15:23:20
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
We're not trolls, you're just oblivious of the game. You dared saying drk is in a bad state and cor 2hour is a joke. The door is that way, sir.
If you've been around since before they started to nerf Drk you would know how it used to be

wtf does that have to do with what you said
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-31 15:24:35
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
We're not trolls, you're just oblivious of the game. You dared saying drk is in a bad state and cor 2hour is a joke. The door is that way, sir.
If you've been around since before they started to nerf Drk you would know how it used to be
This just in: Resolution was a DRK Nerf!!!
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By Asura.Dominate 2012-07-31 15:25:16
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I'll take that as a we don't know yet. :3
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-07-31 15:26:02
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Ruzoko said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
This guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
i do but shoulda known better than to post here for trolls to have fun
We're not trolls, you're just oblivious of the game. You dared saying drk is in a bad state and cor 2hour is a joke. The door is that way, sir.
If you've been around since before they started to nerf Drk you would know how it used to be
This just in: Resolution was a DRK Nerf!!!

Awesome! Now my INT merits and Liberator after this token climb will make me feel like I'm not playing Warrior.
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By Artemicion 2012-07-31 15:26:47
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Asura.Dominate said: »
I'll take that as a we don't know yet. :3

Sorry Dom, pretty sure these two hours will have shared recasts with their older counterparts.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2012-07-31 15:28:18
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I totally called the PUP 2hr weeks ago! lol.. SO AWESOME!


Towards the bottom of the page


Phoenix.Degs said: »
PUP-- I would love to see a 2hr that would be different depending on the frame that you have active.
So for:
Harl frame- Hundred fist *or equivalent*
VE frame- invincible *or equivelent*
SS frame- eagle eye shot *or equivelent insta-kill shot*
Rdm frame- Chainspell
Blm frame- Manafont
Whm frame- Benediction *for entire party including auto*

*I would like to have some kind of damage reduction to the master during this new 2hr. or stat increase to negate some damage.*
By volkom 2012-07-31 15:29:44
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drk gets absorb tp per hit?

wouldn't that imply that they would be near 100% tp full time if they spammed resolution or something?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-31 15:30:01
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You had harlequin wrong!
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2012-07-31 15:34:04
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volkom said: »
drk gets absorb tp per hit?

wouldn't that imply that they would be near 100% tp full time if they spammed resolution or something?
1-2 hits + WS at best as no add effects proc on WS and that assumes the monster has TP and the effect is strong enough to drain more than 1-2 TP a hit.
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By Fafnir 2012-07-31 15:34:36
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If it actually steals the TP, KC drk is now the world's best enfeebler.

HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAH

This isn't happening, KC was used in conjunction with SE, which itself was used with blood weapon to up the base damage to respectable numbers.

The 2hr itself, if its like Blood weapon, would be pretty overpowered (Drain is equivalent to damage dealt, save Phalanx, Shell and/or resistances), so with any reasonable 2h weapon equipped, you'd be draining well over 100 TP per hit.

Even at something like 25% of damage dealt, it would be pretty effective, especially if you had multiple DRKs...
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By Cerberus.Cruxus 2012-07-31 15:35:44
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SE Dev1: "We said we were making a 2nd set of 2-hours...but it seems like too much work."

SE Dev2: "I know what you mean...why can't we just take something and tweak it so it looks like we thought of something new...wait..."

SE Dev1: "You got something?"

SE Dev2: "Yeah! Let's mix-n-match older 2hr's and random abilities and fit them with other jobs! That way we do what we said without putting forth too much work!"

SE Dev1+2: /trollface

But in all seriousness, some of those 2hr abilities are nice but obvious cut and pastes from old 2hr's or variations of something that already existed...
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-07-31 15:51:45
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If THF's new 2hr, "Major damage is dealt to the enemy and all enmity will be transferred to the player standing in front." works as I imagine, as in perma-TA status, then this will be the best thing ever.
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By Fenrir.Acey 2012-07-31 15:52:54
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Many of these new 2hr's are a big disappountment... Very few are good at all... SAD SE SAD
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By Enuyasha 2012-07-31 15:55:29
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
If THF's new 2hr, "Major damage is dealt to the enemy and all enmity will be transferred to the player standing in front." works as I imagine, as in perma-TA status, then this will be the best thing ever.
TA -> 2hr -> double enmity gain with a damage bonus on top of "major damage"
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By Asura.Ina 2012-07-31 15:57:21
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
If THF's new 2hr, "Major damage is dealt to the enemy and all enmity will be transferred to the player standing in front." works as I imagine, as in perma-TA status, then this will be the best thing ever.
I think its a single attack + you drop your currently built enmity onto the person in frount of you... atleast thats what I got from it

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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If it actually steals the TP, KC drk is now the world's best enfeebler.

HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAH

This isn't happening, KC was used in conjunction with SE, which itself was used with blood weapon to up the base damage to respectable numbers.

The 2hr itself, if its like Blood weapon, would be pretty overpowered (Drain is equivalent to damage dealt, save Phalanx, Shell and/or resistances), so with any reasonable 2h weapon equipped, you'd be draining well over 100 TP per hit.

Even at something like 25% of damage dealt, it would be pretty effective, especially if you had multiple DRKs...
Give how these 2 hours look as a whole that seems alot higher then you could expect. Probably looking at 5tp tops if I had to make an estimate.
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